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Post by planoaggie on Aug 25, 2023 12:17:59 GMT -5
It seems that most of us agree on the look of our uniforms and the presentation of the “Lock”…I don’t know who makes the call in uniforms and helmets, but this desire to follow the herd with “anything” goes uniform and helmets is beyond me. Those gradient uniforms last year were horrible…the grey was even worse. I like the white helmet…and would like to see a gold one as well. That said, they should have a “Lock” on them in the same place as our blue helmets. This ain’t a fashion show! It’s football, and we have traditions a history…a proud one at that. We should alway run to it, not away from it. You think Alabama or Clemson gonna do some of the stuff you see going on in college football today? It goes back to recruiting, this generation likes having multiple uniform combinations and designs that are far from traditional. That’s why you see traditional schools like Ohio State dropping alternates uniforms and why Oregon became so popular as a football school. I agree the gradient was trash and the grey set was off-brand for our school, and I prefer the lock on the helmets as well, but you can almost always assume these decisions are made with recruits in mind. I’d be cool with the a Navy tops on the same template as the new gold tops, wear the gold once or twice a year (GHOE and Aggie-Eagle), white on the road with a gold shell for special occasion games (maybe a throwback helmet). No serious athlete is going to choose a school based on how many uniform combinations they have. This is a minor factor for most athletes. Performance and school brand means more. Oregon has a good brand name, Nike, money, etc. to where they can have 5 to 10 uniform combinations to attract additional athletes. I would love to see some numbers of how many better recruits they received due to increased uniform combinations or design. Most schools for many years have had 2 to 3 official colors which generated a sufficient number of uniform combinations. This is a feel good gimmick used primarily to please a few athletes, but mostly fans to keep them interested in what is different from the previous year. As mentioned in my previous post, for losing programs this introduction of new uniforms may have a major impact on changing players and fans minds that better days are yet to come. We have a new attitude message.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Aug 25, 2023 12:24:41 GMT -5
It seems that most of us agree on the look of our uniforms and the presentation of the “Lock”…I don’t know who makes the call in uniforms and helmets, but this desire to follow the herd with “anything” goes uniform and helmets is beyond me. Those gradient uniforms last year were horrible…the grey was even worse. I like the white helmet…and would like to see a gold one as well. That said, they should have a “Lock” on them in the same place as our blue helmets. This ain’t a fashion show! It’s football, and we have traditions a history…a proud one at that. We should always run to it, not away from it. You think Alabama or Clemson gonna do some of the stuff you see going on in college football today? It goes back to recruiting, this generation likes having multiple uniform combinations and designs that are far from traditional. That’s why you see traditional schools like Ohio State dropping alternates uniforms and why Oregon became so popular as a football school. I agree the gradient was trash and the grey set was off-brand for our school, and I prefer the lock on the helmets as well, but you can almost always assume these decisions are made with recruits in mind. I’d be cool with the a Navy tops on the same template as the new gold tops, wear the gold once or twice a year (GHOE and Aggie-Eagle), white on the road with a gold shell for special occasion games (maybe a throwback helmet). I get it man...I really do, but It's our responsibility to pass our traditions on to this generation and those that follow. Like I said before you might see uniform variations from time to time, but what you not gonna see is schools like Alabama, Clemson, Penn State, Michigan, or Notre Dame stray too far from their traditions...and you know what, they have to recruit kids from this generation. If a kid goes to Alabama he knows what uniform and helmet are gonna look like...a kid suits up for Clemson, there will be a tiger paw print on the helmet. Everybody knows what a Michigan helmet look like...and Irish have their golden dome. We have the "Lock". It's not the same as the one used when I was in school, it's better...It's unique to Div I, FCS, and HBCU sports. It's stylish, bold, and looks good on print, uniforms, social media, and on uniforms. We should use it often.
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Post by crowntownaggie on Aug 25, 2023 13:23:47 GMT -5
It goes back to recruiting, this generation likes having multiple uniform combinations and designs that are far from traditional. That’s why you see traditional schools like Ohio State dropping alternates uniforms and why Oregon became so popular as a football school. I agree the gradient was trash and the grey set was off-brand for our school, and I prefer the lock on the helmets as well, but you can almost always assume these decisions are made with recruits in mind. I’d be cool with the a Navy tops on the same template as the new gold tops, wear the gold once or twice a year (GHOE and Aggie-Eagle), white on the road with a gold shell for special occasion games (maybe a throwback helmet). I get it man...I really do, but It's our responsibility to pass our traditions on to this generation and those that follow. Like I said before you might see uniform variations from time to time, but what you not gonna see is schools like Alabama, Clemson, Penn State, Michigan, or Notre Dame stray too far from their traditions...and you know what, they have to recruit kids from this generation. If a kid goes to Alabama he knows what uniform and helmet are gonna look like...a kid suits up for Clemson, there will be a tiger paw print on the helmet. Everybody knows what a Michigan helmet look like...and Irish have their golden dome. We have the "Lock". It's not the same as the one used when I was in school, it's better...It's unique to Div I, FCS, and HBCU sports. It's stylish, bold, and looks good on print, uniforms, social media, and on uniforms. We should use it often. You’re not wrong nor do I disagree, Plano is also right in that part of it is to keep fan interest going and/or drive merchandise revenue (depending on the school). The only school in the list to not stray from tradition is Bama (ND green tops every so often, Clemson purple top, Penn St did NoB for a while, Michigan yellow tops). Some may not like it but the kids do, maybe not all of those NFL-bound guys care but a lot of the kids do.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 25, 2023 13:31:16 GMT -5
It goes back to recruiting, this generation likes having multiple uniform combinations and designs that are far from traditional. That’s why you see traditional schools like Ohio State dropping alternates uniforms and why Oregon became so popular as a football school. I agree the gradient was trash and the grey set was off-brand for our school, and I prefer the lock on the helmets as well, but you can almost always assume these decisions are made with recruits in mind. I’d be cool with the a Navy tops on the same template as the new gold tops, wear the gold once or twice a year (GHOE and Aggie-Eagle), white on the road with a gold shell for special occasion games (maybe a throwback helmet). No serious athlete is going to choose a school based on how many uniform combinations they have. This is a minor factor for most athletes. you'd be surprised! i wouldn't say its a "determining factor", but it sho as hail is a "major factor". that's why a pair of jordans will cost you more than $200! athletic attire means a lot to the youngins, a whole lot. it would be a big mistake not to consider what today's kids prefer for athletic attire...
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Post by crowntownaggie on Aug 25, 2023 15:06:34 GMT -5
What would be considered as the definitive A&T look? I feel like we had a few combos during our recent run of MEAC and CB bowl titles, and I know some prefer a few aspects of the older looks we’ve had like Gold tops, lighter blues, and gold helmet shells. I feel that most agree on the updated monogram (lock) works for this day and age. But what is the rest of the look supposed to be if it were up to you?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 25, 2023 15:28:00 GMT -5
What would be considered as the definitive A&T look? I feel like we had a few combos during our recent run of MEAC and CB bowl titles, and I know some prefer a few aspects of the older looks we’ve had like Gold tops, lighter blues, and gold helmet shells. I feel that most agree on the updated monogram (lock) works for this day and age. But what is the rest of the look supposed to be if it were up to you? definitely NOT the "lighter blues"! oh, hail to the nah! please, oh please, oh please, " navy blue" only, period, end of the story. the lighter blues don't work at all...
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Post by Maxell on Aug 25, 2023 17:20:56 GMT -5
What would be considered as the definitive A&T look? I feel like we had a few combos during our recent run of MEAC and CB bowl titles, and I know some prefer a few aspects of the older looks we’ve had like Gold tops, lighter blues, and gold helmet shells. I feel that most agree on the updated monogram (lock) works for this day and age. But what is the rest of the look supposed to be if it were up to you? definitely NOT the "lighter blues"! oh, hail to the nah! please, oh please, oh please, " navy blue" only, period, end of the story. the lighter blues don't work at all... The current NCA&TSU blue jersey is AWFUL!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 25, 2023 18:49:43 GMT -5
definitely NOT the "lighter blues"! oh, hail to the nah! please, oh please, oh please, " navy blue" only, period, end of the story. the lighter blues don't work at all... The current NCA&TSU blue jersey is AWFUL! i agree, but not because of the "navy blue"...
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Post by saabman on Aug 25, 2023 21:56:24 GMT -5
No serious athlete is going to choose a school based on how many uniform combinations they have. This is a minor factor for most athletes. you'd be surprised! i wouldn't say its a "determining factor", but it sho as hail is a "major factor". that's why a pair of jordans will cost you more than $200! athletic attire means a lot to the youngins, a whole lot. it would be a big mistake not to consider what today's kids prefer for athletic attire... Winning programs do not have that problem ( multiple uniform combinations) it's their winning history that attracts there talent . Uniforms are way down the list . A&T should not try to keep up with the Jones and just win and the talent will be attracted to the program . Please no more of this Pop Warner crappie Jersey BS
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 26, 2023 14:45:35 GMT -5
you'd be surprised! i wouldn't say its a "determining factor", but it sho as hail is a "major factor". that's why a pair of jordans will cost you more than $200! athletic attire means a lot to the youngins, a whole lot. it would be a big mistake not to consider what today's kids prefer for athletic attire... Winning programs do not have that problem ( multiple uniform combinations) it's their winning history that attracts there talent . Uniforms are way down the list . A&T should not try to keep up with the Jones and just win and the talent will be attracted to the program . Please no more of this Pop Warner crappie Jersey BS of course "winning" is more important than uniforms, that's why bama and penn state still attract top athletes despite their uni's being very "plain" and never changes. however, that's more the exception than the rule. the overwhelming "vast majority" of college football programs offer a variety of uniform combinations and they don't do it just for the hail of it. they do it because they know that "athletic apparel" means a lot to the kids and though it may not be the sole "determining factor", it sho as hail can "tip the scale". why do you think oregon football became popular after they adopted that big $88 million nike contract? oregon is not a traditional power. i mean, think about it? do you really think that all of these college programs spend a bunch of money on "multiple uniforms" for no reason? answer? they do it because they know that the kids want them. trust me, they wouldn't do it if they didn't feel it would benefit their programs relative to "recruiting". and lawd knows a&t ain't gone be spending "extra money" on multiple uniforms if it doesn't help recruiting. what's the purpose of having multiple colored helments? that's a rather new phenomenon for college programs that didn't even exist 20 or 30 years ago but does now because recruits like them...
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Post by saabman on Aug 26, 2023 15:26:22 GMT -5
Winning programs do not have that problem ( multiple uniform combinations) it's their winning history that attracts there talent . Uniforms are way down the list . A&T should not try to keep up with the Jones and just win and the talent will be attracted to the program . Please no more of this Pop Warner crappie Jersey BS of course "winning" is more important than uniforms, that's why bama and penn state still attract top athletes despite their uni's being very "plain" and never changes. however, that's more the exception than the rule. the overwhelming "vast majority" of college football programs offer a variety of uniform combinations and they don't do it just for the hail of it. they do it because they know that "athletic apparel" means a lot to the kids and though it may not be the sole "determining factor", it sho as hail can "tip the scale". why do you think oregon football became popular after they adopted that big $88 million nike contract? oregon is not a traditional power. i mean, think about it? do you really think that all of these college programs spend a bunch of money on "multiple uniforms" for no reason? answer? they do it because they know that the kids want them. trust me, they wouldn't do it if they didn't feel it would benefit their programs relative to "recruiting". and lawd knows a&t ain't gone be spending "extra money" on multiple uniforms if it doesn't help recruiting. what's the purpose of having multiple colored helments? that's a rather new phenomenon for college programs that didn't even exist 20 or 30 years ago but does now because recruits like them... Like I said "Uniform are way down the list" .
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 26, 2023 19:41:36 GMT -5
of course "winning" is more important than uniforms, that's why bama and penn state still attract top athletes despite their uni's being very "plain" and never changes. however, that's more the exception than the rule. the overwhelming "vast majority" of college football programs offer a variety of uniform combinations and they don't do it just for the hail of it. they do it because they know that "athletic apparel" means a lot to the kids and though it may not be the sole "determining factor", it sho as hail can "tip the scale". why do you think oregon football became popular after they adopted that big $88 million nike contract? oregon is not a traditional power. i mean, think about it? do you really think that all of these college programs spend a bunch of money on "multiple uniforms" for no reason? answer? they do it because they know that the kids want them. trust me, they wouldn't do it if they didn't feel it would benefit their programs relative to "recruiting". and lawd knows a&t ain't gone be spending "extra money" on multiple uniforms if it doesn't help recruiting. what's the purpose of having multiple colored helments? that's a rather new phenomenon for college programs that didn't even exist 20 or 30 years ago but does now because recruits like them... Like I said "Uniform are way down the list" . well schools, including a&t, spend an awful lot of "money" on new uniforms that they "DO NOT NEED" as far as outfitting a football team. so it can't be too far down the list given that the overwhelming majority of college programs purchase "extra" uniforms that they "DO NOT NEED" in order to compete. so i guess those schools are throwing "millions" of dollar away for something that's so called "way down the list". shoot, if that's the case, we've got plenty of other expenses that we could spend that money on. i mean, you do realize that it costs anywhere from $100k or more to purchase one set of uniforms for approximately 100 football players, correct? that's an awful lot of money to pay for uniforms that they "DO NOT NEED"...
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Post by saabman on Aug 26, 2023 22:36:51 GMT -5
What would be considered as the definitive A&T look? I feel like we had a few combos during our recent run of MEAC and CB bowl titles, and I know some prefer a few aspects of the older looks we’ve had like Gold tops, lighter blues, and gold helmet shells. I feel that most agree on the updated monogram (lock) works for this day and age. But what is the rest of the look supposed to be if it were up to you? Aggie Dark Blue Gold trim, Aggie Gold to match the A&T lock coloring (not University of Michigan Maze) , White with Aggie Dark Blue lettering . Helmet if white should have the Blue or Gold A&T lock .
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Post by saabman on Aug 26, 2023 23:01:38 GMT -5
Like I said "Uniform are way down the list" . well schools, including a&t, spend an awful lot of "money" on new uniforms that they "DO NOT NEED" as far as outfitting a football team. so it can't be too far down the list given that the overwhelming majority of college programs purchase "extra" uniforms that they "DO NOT NEED" in order to compete. so i guess those schools are throwing "millions" of dollar away for something that's so called "way down the list". shoot, if that's the case, we've got plenty of other expenses that we could spend that money on. i mean, you do realize that it costs anywhere from $100k or more to purchase one set of uniforms for approximately 100 football players, correct? that's an awful lot of money to pay for uniforms that they "DO NOT NEED"... I Agree with your lost part 100% . Because alot of programs are wistfully spending more to keep up with the Joneses when all they have to do is win and keep winning. I have yet to talk to are hear any of the athletes that I have recruited or coached even bring up a teams uniform, they only want to, is the programs winning Ships and sending athletes to the next level . Now I'm speaking strictly about the athletes because it useless to have 6 uniform combinations and not have the right talent in them .
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Post by bluehaze on Aug 27, 2023 7:39:35 GMT -5
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