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Post by aggie82 on Nov 6, 2019 16:39:10 GMT -5
I talked to my son at NCCU..They scrimmaged UNCG, and he said UNCG jumped on them early, same as last night. G is good, and the Aggies have a lot of work to do. I saw both Kwe and Maye, in high school, and they both are a shell of their former selves. I think we got caught up in the name vs the ability and skill set. Only time will tell...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 6, 2019 16:42:03 GMT -5
i just don't trip on beating or losing to uncg. no big deal to me, certainly not gonna lose any sleep over it. look, uncg doesn't have a football team. so its very likely that they spend more money on their basketball program than we do. they put all of their beans in their men's basketball basket, we don't. it doesn't bother me if they have better recruits than we do. after all, they have a much larger enrollment that we do (20k to our 12.5k) which means they also likely have far more financial resources than we do, especially since they don't have a football team. uncg's basketball coach makes twice or three times as much money as our coach makes. and i'd be willing to bet, their basketball recruiting budget is way more than ours too. success at the d1 level in the major sports (football and basketball) is primarily (not solely) predicated on "financial resources". ain't too many d1 midmajor schools that we can "outspend", and certainly not any of the p5 schools. so i don't trip on beating uncg. yeah, i know we've beaten them in the past, but that was in the past. schools like uncg and odu can start from scratch building a football or basketball program and still have stronger programs than us simply because they have more finances than we do. so before ya'll fire our coach for not beating uncg, jack up his salary to $300k like uncg's is and jack up his budget like uncg's is. then if he doesn't beat uncg, at least you can say the playing field was equal... .....all of this rambling coming from a dude who picked us to win 71-69 just 24 hours ago. Did you bump your head 24 hours ago and forget all of the “massive resources” UNCG had before predicting an Aggie victory? Please stop with all of the explanations. You, OSA, predicted us to win last night. You volunteered to pick the winner...Coach Joyner didn’t force you to predict us to win.... And again, I’m not trippin’ off of your prediction. You were not the only one wrong....it’s no big deal. It just comes off extremely weak how so willing you are to excuse a 33-point drubbing as if we played the Lakers last night. If you predict us to win by 2....we lose by 33.....and then go about the business flooding this website trying to ineffectively pontificate an embarrassing asswhipping.....sorry dude, you come off weak in this one. It’s not about you or anyone else being wrong about the game last night....it’s about how quickly you are willing to excuse and accept an embarrassing performance.... If you don’t know much about our team or the one we’re playing, don’t talk/predict on things you don’t know....it’s as simple as that.
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Post by Maxell on Nov 9, 2019 0:34:37 GMT -5
I tried to tell y'all...
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Post by pommie on Nov 9, 2019 7:43:56 GMT -5
I think the Kansas v UNCG result last night puts tuesdays game into context, with Kansas just losing to Duke on tuesday. UNCG on this performance must be ranked first in their conference.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Nov 9, 2019 8:31:33 GMT -5
We are still making excuses for that terrible butt whupping by UNCG. What we need to do is make our program as strong as theirs. Several years ago they were terrible but kept chomping at the bit and got better.
We can do the same with better coaching, better recruits, stronger budget, larger support from our administration and fans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 8:54:39 GMT -5
The rankings do not lie y'all. UNCG is a borderline At-Large team for the NCAA if they don't win the really strong SoCon. What's crazy is that there may be two more teams in the conference better than UNCG. Fortunately, Western Carolina isn't one of them.
Well, I take that back; NCAT isn't a bottom-300 level program this year. Not by a long shot.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 9, 2019 8:55:28 GMT -5
UNCG has a good team. Instead of just groveling over them, the best thing to do is learn what they have done to turn things around. Wes Miller was extremely close to getting fired a few years ago. They were struggling. All of a sudden, an epiphany occurred to where G now does no wrong. I can’t speak on what I don’t know, but something changed over there. I’m a big fan of learning what others are doing right and implementing it into our system as much as possible.....
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Post by saabman on Nov 9, 2019 9:36:09 GMT -5
UNCG has a good team. Instead of just groveling over them, the best thing to do is learn what they have done to turn things around. Wes Miller was extremely close to getting fired a few years ago. They were struggling. All of a sudden, an epiphany occurred to where G now does no wrong. I can’t speak on what I don’t know, but something changed over there. I’m a big fan of learning what others are doing right and implementing it into our system as much as possible..... TALENTED PLAYERS THAT FIT THERE UP-TEMPO SYSTEM
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Nov 9, 2019 12:35:30 GMT -5
Had we speed the tempo up against G and not tried to pass over the top of the press....different ball game entirely
Not saying we would have won but it would have been a competitive game. I am not sure why some are saying we need better players they were just attempting to excute the plan they were given.
Some adjustment to that plan was made last night . The next time we see a teams that presses I will be anxious to see if the other adjustments are made
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Post by Maxell on Nov 9, 2019 12:46:51 GMT -5
We are still making excuses for that terrible butt whupping by UNCG. What we need to do is make our program as strong as theirs. Several years ago they were terrible but kept chomping at the bit and got better. We can do the same with better coaching, better recruits, stronger budget, larger support from our administration and fans. Delirious. They now have a $17 million athletics budget with no football. They improved their talent level, period. We beat them in 2013. What don't you understand about the fact that we are REBUILDING a program that only won 3 games in 2016? Wow!
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Nov 9, 2019 13:17:52 GMT -5
We are still making excuses for that terrible butt whupping by UNCG. What we need to do is make our program as strong as theirs. Several years ago they were terrible but kept chomping at the bit and got better. We can do the same with better coaching, better recruits, stronger budget, larger support from our administration and fans. Delirious. They now have a $17 million athletics budget with no football. They improved their talent level, period. We beat them in 2013. What don't you understand about the fact that we are REBUILDING a program that only won 3 games in 2016? Wow! Pretty much this. To be honest... if you went to the game, the program difference pretty much hits you in the face as soon as you walk into the Coliseum. UNCG's extra budget advantage allows them to rent the Coliseum without issue. Once Wes was able to start landing players that fit his system. With football being our #1 expense, it's going to be tough for us to catch UNCG in hoops spending.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Nov 9, 2019 14:24:49 GMT -5
Well DSA if we can't get a budget like theirs or come close we need to go back to the CIAA.
Our program is basically division II with the budget we have and players we recruit.
Hell, back in the mid to late 60's we played numerous games in the coliseum so that ain't nothing new.
As NSS alluded to earlier Coach Wes Miller was on the verge of being fired. He fielded poor teams and got lucky with a few good recruits that turned their program around.
We can make all the excuses we want but until our administration make a commitment as they did for the football program we will still be straddling the fence - real division I or border line division II.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Nov 9, 2019 14:46:41 GMT -5
Well DSA if we can't get a budget like theirs or come close we need to go back to the CIAA. Our program is basically division II with the budget we have and players we recruit. Hell, back in the mid to late 60's we played numerous games in the coliseum so that ain't nothing new. As NSS alluded to earlier Coach Wes Miller was on the verge of being fired. He fielded poor teams and got lucky with a few good recruits that turned their program around. We can make all the excuses we want but until our administration make a commitment as they did for the football program we will still be straddling the fence - real division I or border line division II. No... you don't take your ball and go back to the CIAA just because of UNCG. But the Coliseum costs substantially more now that it did in the 60s. I do think SixtiesAggies' point about scheduling this game first is legit. We need to be better out the gate going forward as well. The administration can only do so much with student athletics fees with football taking up a larger chunk. We will have to be more strategic about our fundraising regarding Men's Hoops. There's no getting around that. But that will involve us being more willing to open up our pockets and encouraging others to do so as part of the strategy.
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Post by saabman on Nov 9, 2019 15:02:46 GMT -5
Well DSA if we can't get a budget like theirs or come close we need to go back to the CIAA. Our program is basically division II with the budget we have and players we recruit. Hell, back in the mid to late 60's we played numerous games in the coliseum so that ain't nothing new. As NSS alluded to earlier Coach Wes Miller was on the verge of being fired. He fielded poor teams and got lucky with a few good recruits that turned their program around. We can make all the excuses we want but until our administration make a commitment as they did for the football program we will still be straddling the fence - real division I or border line division II. A&T's problem has nothing to do with it's Budget . A&T's problem is replacing 4 starters and finding an homogeneous unit to put on the floor and start playing up-tempo transition ball and stop standing around and stop all this Dog on dribbling .
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Nov 9, 2019 16:06:06 GMT -5
UNCG has a good team. Instead of just groveling over them, the best thing to do is learn what they have done to turn things around. Wes Miller was extremely close to getting fired a few years ago. They were struggling. All of a sudden, an epiphany occurred to where G now does no wrong. I can’t speak on what I don’t know, but something changed over there. I’m a big fan of learning what others are doing right and implementing it into our system as much as possible..... How about building your program from bottom up (which uncg did) and not top down. You really want to develop players to eventually replace your seniors, who have also grown up within the program.
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