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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 22, 2014 23:50:56 GMT -5
When we ran a trick play on third down (a halfback pass from Cohen) to score a touchdown against Elon, nobody had a problem with it. When Keyes completed a 40-yard pass against Coastal after catching a lateral from Quick, everybody though it was a brilliant call.
BTW: I just checked the stats from that Coastal game and Quick scored 3 touchdowns, and had 96 yards rushing.
But of course, he never shows up in big games.
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Post by faithfulaggie on Nov 22, 2014 23:51:34 GMT -5
You thought running a trick play on 3rd down in the red zone (after a timeout) was a wonderful play....after we gashed them down the field for that whole drive....... You thought starting an offensive series in the 4th qtr with a wildcat formation (one we hadn't done all year) was a wonderful play? We didn't value ball possession very well today. I don't have a problem with anyone supporting Broadway and his staff.....but there were some crucial points in this game where they didn't set our team up for the best chances of success. You cannot blame going 3 out of 14 on 3rd downs all on a player dropping a pass, missing a throw or fumbling the ball. Some or a few - yes.....but all - no. In tight games, it comes down to a handful of downs that determine who wins and who loses. In those crucial moments today, we just weren't good enough. Nit picking is easiest when we lose. All of these things you stated wouldn't even be questioned if we win the game. Losing allows everything that didn't go right to be questioned
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Nov 23, 2014 0:02:18 GMT -5
When we ran a trick play on third down (a halfback pass from Cohen) to score a touchdown against Elon, nobody had a problem with it. When Keyes completed a 40-yard pass against Coastal after catching a lateral from Quick, everybody though it was a brilliant call. BTW: I just checked the stats from that Coastal game and Quick scored 3 touchdowns, and had 96 yards rushing. But of course, he never shows up in big games. The only issue I had with that call today was that Quick wasn't too far removed from missing 3 1/2 games with a knee injury, and I wouldn't have exposed my QB to a potential kill shot. Central's secondary was savvy enough to sniff it out... and got that kill shot. I think that hit had an effect on Quick the rest of the game.
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Post by aggierattler on Nov 23, 2014 0:14:27 GMT -5
You thought running a trick play on 3rd down in the red zone (after a timeout) was a wonderful play....after we gashed them down the field for that whole drive....... You thought starting an offensive series in the 4th qtr with a wildcat formation (one we hadn't done all year) was a wonderful play? We didn't value ball possession very well today. I don't have a problem with anyone supporting Broadway and his staff.....but there were some crucial points in this game where they didn't set our team up for the best chances of success. You cannot blame going 3 out of 14 on 3rd downs all on a player dropping a pass, missing a throw or fumbling the ball. Some or a few - yes.....but all - no. In tight games, it comes down to a handful of downs that determine who wins and who loses. In those crucial moments today, we just weren't good enough. NSS-- Every single play that doesn't work is a bonehead call to you. However, you are not critical of "non-script" plays that do work. If they call a double-reverse and it gains 28 yards, you have yet to say, "Why in the hell did Bustle call that bonehead play?" You are very critical of the coaches, but you are not consistent in your critiques yourself.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 23, 2014 0:15:03 GMT -5
-Elon finished the season 1-11......the fact we needed a trick play like that to score kinda makes you wonder how truly explosive our offense is/was. -Quick has good feet - you get no argument from me on that one.....but in big games, you need your QB to pass efficiently. Quick ain't a big dude....all of that running is gonna get him killed. His pocket presence just isn't where it needs to be. -"Nitpicking is easiest when you lose"......I went down to Savannah last week. We won 34-0. Quick was not good in that game either. 2 INTs, one fumble; missing wide open receivers.
I'll meet you all halfway - Quick was spectacular against Morgan. However, his subpar last 2 games balanced out that one spectacular game he had.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 23, 2014 0:24:22 GMT -5
You thought running a trick play on 3rd down in the red zone (after a timeout) was a wonderful play....after we gashed them down the field for that whole drive....... You thought starting an offensive series in the 4th qtr with a wildcat formation (one we hadn't done all year) was a wonderful play? We didn't value ball possession very well today. I don't have a problem with anyone supporting Broadway and his staff.....but there were some crucial points in this game where they didn't set our team up for the best chances of success. You cannot blame going 3 out of 14 on 3rd downs all on a player dropping a pass, missing a throw or fumbling the ball. Some or a few - yes.....but all - no. In tight games, it comes down to a handful of downs that determine who wins and who loses. In those crucial moments today, we just weren't good enough. NSS-- Every single play that doesn't work is a bonehead call to you. However, you are not critical of "non-script" plays that do work. If they call a double-reverse and it gains 28 yards, you have yet to say, "Why in the hell did Bustle call that bonehead play?" You are very critical of the coaches, but you are not consistent in your critiques yourself. 1) You have to factor in the level of competition 2) You have to factor in what point/time of the game these "bonehead plays" (your words, not mine) were called 3) You have to factor in that we've been scouted by the opposition, ESPECIALLY OUR CHIEF RIVAL All of these plays looked cute against the Tomato Can Tech's we played all year. Central wasn't biting...... We can continue these discussions tomorrow. I have to get me some rest......
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 23, 2014 8:16:08 GMT -5
Instead of trying to minimize all the accomplishments of the players and coaches on this year's team, why not just tip your hat to Central for playing better than us in this one particular game.
But do you honestly think that NCCU or any other team in the MEAC has a better overall program than A&T right now? Would you honestly want to trade Broadway for any other HBCU coach right now?
I know I wouldn't. Aggie football definitely has room for improvement, and based on Broadway's track record there's no reason to believe it won't continue to make those improvements. We have come lights years since the days of Alonzo Lee, Lee Fobbs, George Small and yes, even Bill Hayes.
Next year A&T will be favored in all but two contests - UNC and Coastal Carolina. And depending on who Coastal has coming back, that game might even be a toss up.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 23, 2014 9:16:44 GMT -5
Given the hole we were in when Broadway took over the program we are 1000% better. What makes Broadway better than other coaches we could have hired is he rebuilt the "program" not just the team.
The disgust you hear after yesterday's game has less to do with losing and more to do with who we lost to. Hey we could have lost our playoff hopes to lowly Savannah State or hell even Chosen, but not to NCCU! It will take a while (and some of us will have to go into witness protection programs) but we will eventually get over this humiliating loss. We get NCCU in Aggie stadium next season and I hope Broadway remembers this loss.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 9:17:41 GMT -5
Instead of trying to minimize all the accomplishments of the players and coaches on this year's team, why not just tip you hat to Central for playing better than us in this one particular game. But do you honestly think that NCCU or any other team in the MEAC has a better overall program than A&T right now? Would you honestly want to trade Broadway for any other HBCU coach right now? I know I wouldn't. Aggie football definitely has room for improvement, and based on Broadway's track record there's no reason to believe it won't continue to make those improvements. We have come lights years since the days of Alonzo Lee, Lee Fobbs, George Small and yes, even Bill Hayes. Next year A&T will be favored in all but two contests - UNC and Coastal Carolina. And depending on who Coastal has coming back, that game might even be a toss up. Side note: our 2015 Out of Conference schedule is set with UNC, Elon and Coastal Carolina? Who leaves the MEAC Schedule?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 23, 2014 9:23:36 GMT -5
Maybe we drop our cupcake game with the DII teams. If you count the MEAC \SWAC game, Elon, Coastal, and Chowan, we had four out of conference games this year. Not sure we have to drop any MEAC game.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Nov 23, 2014 9:29:54 GMT -5
Instead of trying to minimize all the accomplishments of the players and coaches on this year's team, why not just tip you hat to Central for playing better than us in this one particular game. But do you honestly think that NCCU or any other team in the MEAC has a better overall program than A&T right now? Would you honestly want to trade Broadway for any other HBCU coach right now? I know I wouldn't. Aggie football definitely has room for improvement, and based on Broadway's track record there's no reason to believe it won't continue to make those improvements. We have come lights years since the days of Alonzo Lee, Lee Fobbs, George Small and yes, even Bill Hayes. Next year A&T will be favored in all but two contests - UNC and Coastal Carolina. And depending on who Coastal has coming back, that game might even be a toss up. Side note: our 2015 Out of Conference schedule is set with UNC, Elon and Coastal Carolina? Who leaves the MEAC Schedule? We play 12 games, 8 games in the MEAC, 4 OOC. It would be great to have Coastal on the schedule again. I know Coach Broadway likes his "cupcake", but it would really help to have another FCS foe to get us battle-ready for the MEAC.
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Post by JeffAggieFan on Nov 23, 2014 9:33:05 GMT -5
We only have 11 games next year. I think Coastal is not on the schedule for next year since we have Elon and UNC on the road
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 23, 2014 9:58:06 GMT -5
Why would Coastal agree to come to A&T this year without a return date? Of course this was a home-and-home deal.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Nov 23, 2014 10:02:35 GMT -5
We only have 11 games next year. I think Coastal is not on the schedule for next year since we have Elon and UNC on the road As long as we're not on restriction, there will NEVER be a good reason not to play 12 football games.... lol.... BT's post about the CCU home-and-home deal makes sense. We do need a home game, though.
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Post by DOOMS on Nov 23, 2014 10:20:19 GMT -5
I don't think anybody has commented on the o-line play. Quick was harassed all game. Not too much he could do under those circumstances. Central won that battle and won the game.
They kicked our behinds. I'm shocked really. I felt like Broadway wouldn't lose to his old employer.
But watching the game, they were drilling our lines. They came to play and had the horses to do it.
Hoping we learned a valuable lesson for the future.
All in all, just a disappointing end to a good season
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