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Post by marchingband1969 on Oct 29, 2013 16:38:24 GMT -5
i think we have some of the most “impatient” fans on the planet. i mean, i really find it hard to believe that some of our folk have “anything” to complain about given the status of our football program merely a year ago or more. folk act like we’re no longer walking on egg shells, they act like we’re free and clear of “the effects” of severe apr sanctions and a 27 game losing streak. “the effects” of our recent past adversely impacts our ability to recruit and we still have not recovered from the lack of a spring practice. and let our apr fall below 900 at the end of this school year and see what happens. i mean, our coaching staff has their hands full but a lot of our folk either don’t care or don’t realize it. i want to win as much as anybody on earth! but imo, its not fair to hold our coaches to the same standards of any other coach who has not had to stay afloat despite “the effects” of severe apr sanctions, a 27 game losing streak, and lack of full allotment scholarship funding. folk complain about our offense. but guess what? new oc, average talent, and no spring practice! folk complain about not having a top notch qb. but how do you expect to land a “top notch qb” when you’ve got an apr cloud and 10 years of losing football hanging over your head? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY COACH BROADWAY WAS RELUCTANT TO TAKE OUR JOB! DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY CONNELL MAYNOR TURNED OUR JOB DOWN! yet, our coaches are the blame because they haven’t recruited a “top notch” qb? i think some of our folk wakeup every morning looking for something to complain about or else their entire day is ruined. coach broadway has our program “ahead of schedule”. but some of our folk take what little success he’s had at a&t for granted as if his accomplishments were simple to achieve. well, guess what? THEY WEREN'T EASY TO ACHIEVE! we’re asking for “stud” qb’s and a potent offense. we complain because we loss to scsu, hampton, and dsu all by 5 points each. i mean, we're 15 friggin' points away from being "undefeated". DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REMEMBER WHERE WE’VE COME FROM PRIOR TO COACH BROADWAY'S ARRIVAL? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REALIZE HOW “DAUNTING” OF A TASK IT WAS TO CLIMB OUT OF THAT APR NIGHTMARE? good thing coach broadway doesn’t pay attention to some of the nonsense stated on this message board cuz if he did, i wouldn’t blame him if he threw his hands in the air and said “the hail with this bs!” dude can “easily” find another coaching gig someplace else where expectations are realistic. i would hate to think that our folk are just as naive as grambling’s folk. don’t know when you’ve got a good coach. just smh... Well since your post was immediately after my last post, I want to make sure I'm clear about my position. I agree with you about how far we have come in a short period. I'll admit earlier in the year when we beat App State and Elon, I got really excited about this team and totally forgot where we had been just 4 years ago but after the Hampton game I woke up. I don't question our coaching...I have tried my hand at coaching sports teams (youth soccer and baseball) and I'm a lousy coach so I refuse to question anyone that's getting paid to coach. I believe we just don't have the "playmakers" this year to win close games. I'm not complaining about not having them just stating a fact. And I don't believe there's much we can do about that this year. I understand enough about college sports to know that sometimes you have the right players and sometimes you don't and there's not much you can do about that until the next recruiting cycle. So my comments are not complaints, just observations. I've lower my expectations and blood pressure just by accepting that we're not going to be "MEAC or FCS Champions" this year. There are a few folks (not me) that have not accepted that yet and they are not happy about it. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 29, 2013 16:53:52 GMT -5
i think we have some of the most “impatient” fans on the planet. i mean, i really find it hard to believe that some of our folk have “anything” to complain about given the status of our football program merely a year ago or more. folk act like we’re no longer walking on egg shells, they act like we’re free and clear of “the effects” of severe apr sanctions and a 27 game losing streak. “the effects” of our recent past adversely impacts our ability to recruit and we still have not recovered from the lack of a spring practice. and let our apr fall below 900 at the end of this school year and see what happens. i mean, our coaching staff has their hands full but a lot of our folk either don’t care or don’t realize it. i want to win as much as anybody on earth! but imo, its not fair to hold our coaches to the same standards of any other coach who has not had to stay afloat despite “the effects” of severe apr sanctions, a 27 game losing streak, and lack of full allotment scholarship funding. folk complain about our offense. but guess what? new oc, average talent, and no spring practice! folk complain about not having a top notch qb. but how do you expect to land a “top notch qb” when you’ve got an apr cloud and 10 years of losing football hanging over your head? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY COACH BROADWAY WAS RELUCTANT TO TAKE OUR JOB! DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY CONNELL MAYNOR TURNED OUR JOB DOWN! yet, our coaches are the blame because they haven’t recruited a “top notch” qb? i think some of our folk wakeup every morning looking for something to complain about or else their entire day is ruined. coach broadway has our program “ahead of schedule”. but some of our folk take what little success he’s had at a&t for granted as if his accomplishments were simple to achieve. well, guess what? THEY WEREN'T EASY TO ACHIEVE! we’re asking for “stud” qb’s and a potent offense. we complain because we loss to scsu, hampton, and dsu all by 5 points each. i mean, we're 15 friggin' points away from being "undefeated". DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REMEMBER WHERE WE’VE COME FROM PRIOR TO COACH BROADWAY'S ARRIVAL? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REALIZE HOW “DAUNTING” OF A TASK IT WAS TO CLIMB OUT OF THAT APR NIGHTMARE? good thing coach broadway doesn’t pay attention to some of the nonsense stated on this message board cuz if he did, i wouldn’t blame him if he threw his hands in the air and said “the hail with this bs!” dude can “easily” find another coaching gig someplace else where expectations are realistic. i would hate to think that our folk are just as naive as grambling’s folk. don’t know when you’ve got a good coach. just smh... Well since your post was immediately after my last post, I want to make sure I'm clear about my position. I agree with you about how far we have come in a short period. I'll admit earlier in the year when we beat App State and Elon, I got really excited about this team and totally forgot where we had been just 4 years ago but after the Hampton game I woke up. I don't question our coaching...I have tried my hand at coaching sports teams (youth soccer and baseball) and I'm a lousy coach so I refuse to question anyone that's getting paid to coach. I believe we just don't have the "playmakers" this year to win close games. I'm not complaining about not having them just stating a fact. And I don't believe there's much we can do about that this year. I understand enough about college sports to know that sometimes you have the right players and sometimes you don't and there's not much you can do about that until the next recruiting cycle. So my comments are not complaints, just observations. I've lower my expectations and blood pressure just by accepting that we're not going to be "MEAC or FCS Champions" this year. There are a few folks (not me) that have not accepted that yet and they are not happy about it. 1969, just so that you'll know, neither you nor trueaggie are the complainers that i was referring to. matter of fact, i'll even go so far to say that its not most aggies... |
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Post by Aggie One on Oct 29, 2013 17:13:02 GMT -5
You don't have to remind me of where we are from the days of Fobbs and Lee to where we are now under Broadway . I wish the constant critics would keep things in their proper prospective on just how tough of a job it has been in having to rebuild this program from being virtually dead back to respectability and winning games again with both hands tied behind our backs in just three years but I gave up on that a long time ago.
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 29, 2013 17:59:15 GMT -5
i think we have some of the most “impatient” fans on the planet. i mean, i really find it hard to believe that some of our folk have “anything” to complain about given the status of our football program merely a year ago or more. folk act like we’re no longer walking on egg shells, they act like we’re free and clear of “the effects” of severe apr sanctions and a 27 game losing streak. “the effects” of our recent past adversely impacts our ability to recruit and we still have not recovered from the lack of a spring practice. and let our apr fall below 900 at the end of this school year and see what happens. i mean, our coaching staff has their hands full but a lot of our folk either don’t care or don’t realize it. i want to win as much as anybody on earth! but imo, its not fair to hold our coaches to the same standards of any other coach who has not had to stay afloat despite “the effects” of severe apr sanctions, a 27 game losing streak, and lack of full allotment scholarship funding. folk complain about our offense. but guess what? new oc, average talent, and no spring practice! folk complain about not having a top notch qb. but how do you expect to land a “top notch qb” when you’ve got an apr cloud and 10 years of losing football hanging over your head? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY COACH BROADWAY WAS RELUCTANT TO TAKE OUR JOB! DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY CONNELL MAYNOR TURNED OUR JOB DOWN! yet, our coaches are the blame because they haven’t recruited a “top notch” qb? i think some of our folk wakeup every morning looking for something to complain about or else their entire day is ruined. coach broadway has our program “ahead of schedule”. but some of our folk take what little success he’s had at a&t for granted as if his accomplishments were simple to achieve. well, guess what? THEY WEREN'T EASY TO ACHIEVE! we’re asking for “stud” qb’s and a potent offense. we complain because we loss to scsu, hampton, and dsu all by 5 points each. i mean, we're 15 friggin' points away from being "undefeated". DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REMEMBER WHERE WE’VE COME FROM PRIOR TO COACH BROADWAY'S ARRIVAL? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REALIZE HOW “DAUNTING” OF A TASK IT WAS TO CLIMB OUT OF THAT APR NIGHTMARE? good thing coach broadway doesn’t pay attention to some of the nonsense stated on this message board cuz if he did, i wouldn’t blame him if he threw his hands in the air and said “the hail with this bs!” dude can “easily” find another coaching gig someplace else where expectations are realistic. i would hate to think that our folk are just as naive as grambling’s folk. don’t know when you’ve got a good coach. just smh... Agree 100% |
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Oct 29, 2013 18:04:41 GMT -5
i think we have some of the most “impatient” fans on the planet. i mean, i really find it hard to believe that some of our folk have “anything” to complain about given the status of our football program merely a year ago or more. folk act like we’re no longer walking on egg shells, they act like we’re free and clear of “the effects” of severe apr sanctions and a 27 game losing streak. “the effects” of our recent past adversely impacts our ability to recruit and we still have not recovered from the lack of a spring practice. and let our apr fall below 900 at the end of this school year and see what happens. i mean, our coaching staff has their hands full but a lot of our folk either don’t care or don’t realize it. i want to win as much as anybody on earth! but imo, its not fair to hold our coaches to the same standards of any other coach who has not had to stay afloat despite “the effects” of severe apr sanctions, a 27 game losing streak, and lack of full allotment scholarship funding. folk complain about our offense. but guess what? new oc, average talent, and no spring practice! folk complain about not having a top notch qb. but how do you expect to land a “top notch qb” when you’ve got an apr cloud and 10 years of losing football hanging over your head? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY COACH BROADWAY WAS RELUCTANT TO TAKE OUR JOB! DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME UNDERSTAND WHY CONNELL MAYNOR TURNED OUR JOB DOWN! yet, our coaches are the blame because they haven’t recruited a “top notch” qb? i think some of our folk wakeup every morning looking for something to complain about or else their entire day is ruined. coach broadway has our program “ahead of schedule”. but some of our folk take what little success he’s had at a&t for granted as if his accomplishments were simple to achieve. well, guess what? THEY WEREN'T EASY TO ACHIEVE! we’re asking for “stud” qb’s and a potent offense. we complain because we loss to scsu, hampton, and dsu all by 5 points each. i mean, we're 15 friggin' points away from being "undefeated". DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REMEMBER WHERE WE’VE COME FROM PRIOR TO COACH BROADWAY'S ARRIVAL? DOES ANYONE OTHER THAN ME REALIZE HOW “DAUNTING” OF A TASK IT WAS TO CLIMB OUT OF THAT APR NIGHTMARE? good thing coach broadway doesn’t pay attention to some of the nonsense stated on this message board cuz if he did, i wouldn’t blame him if he threw his hands in the air and said “the hail with this bs!” dude can “easily” find another coaching gig someplace else where expectations are realistic. i would hate to think that our folk are just as naive as grambling’s folk. don’t know when you’ve got a good coach. just smh... I totally agree. |
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Oct 29, 2013 19:27:26 GMT -5
Allow me to be the dissenting voice amongst the sea of agreement......
1) I was one of the people clamoring for Alonzo Lee to be fired (others were willing to let him ride after a 1-10 season)
2) I was one of the people clamoring for Jerry Eaves' dismissal 4 years before he actually got fired after he kept putting up subpar performances year after year (others rode that dead horse to the ground)
3) I was one of the people clamoring for us to take whatever time needed to hire Broadway while people were losing their minds about the amount of time it was taking for us to find a replacement after we fired Coach Lee
4) I was one of the people clamoring for OC Pizzo to be fired while folks were calling me unreasonable and inpatient....until Broadway actually fired his azz right after the season.
Am I 100% correct on everything I post ------- BY NO MEANS!!!!!
-I thought Lee Fobbs and his FBS experience would get A&T over the hump (((WRONG)))
-I thought Cy Alexander was not the absolute best coach we could find for our basketball team (he's already doing well)
I'm THE FIRST to say I am not 100% right on everything that goes on in Aggieland.
But here's the what I find disturbing on this board.......people are actually willing to excuse virtually everything that goes on in Aggieland when we have been witnessed to YEARS OF ATHLETIC INEPTITUDE; until our MEAC basketball title last year, we hadn't won one since 1995. We still haven't won an MEAC football title since 2003. When you go by 10-20 years without winning in the major sports, if you ain't questioning what's going on from year to year ----- YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!
I look at Kindle's performance last week...
I look at the Del St performance 2 weeks ago...
I look at how we bungled away the Hampton game 3 weeks ago...
I look at how anemic an offense we were for the entire year of 2012 (outside of our game vs mighty WV State)...
How "blind" can the mice be when you are willing to excuse barely 200 yards of total offense?
How "blind" can the mice be when you are willing to excuse a 5th yr QB who cannot even pass for 20 yards against a bad FAMU team?
How "blind" can the mice be when you are willing to excuse a full year with our offense struggling to score 20 ppg, even vs (sub)marginal teams?
People act as if threads are started after average/above average performances.......
People act as if threads have been started demanding Broadway be fired.......asking Broadway (and his staff) to do better on offense DOES NOT EQUATE to asking him to be fired.
I want Broadway to end up being the best football coach A&T has ever had......but does anyone think he will be with what we've seen with our offense for the past three years? ??
THAT IS WHY I (AND OTHERS) POST!!!!!!!
If A&T's offense over the next 3 years is as bad as it has been over the first 3 years ------ BROADWAY WILL NOT END UP BEING THE BEST COACH IN AGGIE HISTORY.
I want him and others to know that he can do better and we expect him too. Mediocre (and downright poor) performances can no longer be accepted people. This is what our offense has been (and that's saying it kindly).
I'm cool when folks disagree with what I and others post.....nobody thinks the same.......but some of y'all need to stop sitting up on this damn board and act is if folks who may disagree with you don't know what the hell they're talking about.
At the end of the day - it's all about AGGIE EXCELLENCE with all of us, from the football field to the classroom.
I want it. You want it. We all want it. When we don't have it ---- I'm not the one to sit back and hope for it to happen.
I speak for change. I donate for change. I praise when positive change is taking place.
All I have to tell Aggies on (and off) this board is that there is nothing wrong questioning any aspect of Aggie athletics when a pattern of clear underperformance is glaringly obvious......
FAILING TO TO QUESTION FAILURE LEADS TO MORE FAILURE
(There's decades of Aggie football and basketball ineptitude to substantiate my point)
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Post by bigpeete1 on Oct 30, 2013 8:28:41 GMT -5
NNS, IF FAMU MAKES AN EXTRA POINT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING LIKE A GENIOUS THIS WEEK
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Post by Bigboy on Oct 30, 2013 9:06:04 GMT -5
NSS, we are aware of your concerns, so how do you suggest we fix them? Do you suggest we fire Broadway and/or the OC? Seriously, what should be done?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 30, 2013 9:30:11 GMT -5
People act as if threads are started after average/above average performances.......
People act as if threads have been started demanding Broadway be fired.......asking Broadway (and his staff) to do better on offense DOES NOT EQUATE to asking him to be fired.
nss, i refer you to your own thread which "you created" where you are quoted as saying the following after the dsu game; "THERE'S NO WAY BROADWAY SHOULD HAVE HELD US TO 7 POINTS TODAY. I repeat - this is inexcusable....and if Aggies are truly honest about the whole thing, they'd come to the same conclusion.
I will still go to the games (even when it rains) and support this team, but I expect improvement from week to week. This offense is CLEARLY REGRESSING, and Broadway and his staff have NO IDEA on how to put a series of plays together.
Sorry folks, but I'm going to have to leave 2 final words that should be in the back of every Aggie's mind after the game today and over these next few weeks if things don't improve ----- CONNELL MAYNOR.
The honeymoon and the excuses are all done ----- WE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER THAN THIS. Broadway needs to be held accountable for this bull for 2 weeks straight. ABSOLUTELY AN INEXCUSABLE OFFENSIVE PERFORMANCE TODAY - INEXCUSABLE" now, the above is your own quote. please explain what you meant by the "connell maynor" reference? because it appears to me (and its very clear) that you're implying that if the team doesn't improve over the next few weeks, we should go after connell maynor. wouldn't that require coach broadway to resign or be fired? i mean, i'm just asking since you're implying that you've never asked that broadway be fired... |
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Post by Aggie77 on Oct 30, 2013 9:47:27 GMT -5
So, how many also agree that Coach Broadway is happy with where the team is offensively right now? How many also agree that Coach Broadway is happy with a 2-3 record? How many also agree that Coach Broadway is not "impatient" to win a championship. How many also agree the Coach Broadway thinks this is the best this team can play?
If you do agree, then you are missing the point!
Which is better close wins or close losses? In my mind, it's worse knowing you have could have won. Please stop it with 5 points, sure we were close, but close doesn't mean crap. How much joy is Coach Broadway finding in those 5 point loses? Trying bragging to Hampton or Del State with that concept, "oh you only beat us by 5 points", what senses does that make?
If you don't agree, then you are missing the point!
If you don't know the point, it not about where we have been, it is about where we want to go! Don't confuse the message with the rhetoric and antics of the messenger. Don’t accept mediocrity because of where we been. If Coach Broadway is not satisfied, then why should we be satisfied?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Oct 30, 2013 10:01:16 GMT -5
Let me shift the discussion off of A&T and look around the MEAC and SWAC. If you check the win/loss records and the comments on the internet, there are a lot of HBCU coaches struggling to put winning teams on the field. Hey just look in the MEAC. And those schools haven't had to deal with the NCAA hell we've had to endure the past 3 years. Heck, even SC State folks are questioning their coach's performance and they are winning.
Folks, let's get real, there aren't many "championship" football coaches out there (that we can afford and want to coach at an HBCU school coming off NCAA sanctions)and we have one...Coach Broadway! Even our own family member CONNELL MAYNOR ran away when he was offered the job.
No, we got the only coach around that can and has turn our program around and if I have to sit through a few more awful games with him until he gets the job done...them sign me up.
Can we find something else to complain about? As far as I'm concerned, this coaching topic is dead!
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Post by Trueaggie on Oct 30, 2013 10:11:10 GMT -5
Sign me up also; coaching topic is done.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Oct 30, 2013 10:29:03 GMT -5
OSA,
At that moment when I posted that statement.....I was livid. I just watched a game where our offense was as pathetic as I've ever seen.
I WAS WRONG for posting that statement.....or at least I should have worded it better.
HERE'S WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID (AND WHAT I TRULY BELIEVE)......
If A&T has another putrid year of offense in 2014 and we are stagnant in our attempts to get better in the MEAC (and FCS), then serious discussions need to be had as to whether Broadway is the man for this job. If the answer is no, Connell Maynor needs to be seriously considered as the person we look to next to take our program to the next level.
THIS IS WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID. I didn't. I have to stand by the words I stated.
Hell, that statement may upset folks too.....I'm fine with that. I don't think like many others on this site.
To summarize so we are are clear:
1) I was wrong for making that statement you highlighted, or I should have at least reworded it.
2) I am behind Coach Broadway 100%
3) I want Coach Broadway to end up being the best coach ever in A&T history
4) I don't think it's a problem questioning his future if he gives us 4 straight years of offensive ineptitude.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 30, 2013 10:38:52 GMT -5
I don't know which is worse: NSS's use of random colors or oleschoolaggies' use of random quotation marks.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Oct 30, 2013 11:02:27 GMT -5
Yo BT,
I love colors.....let me get my crayola on......I'll try to keep it more subtle. I just want to highlight the most salient points I have to say.....including when I say "I'm wrong." I want to make sure folks know that I have no problem critiquing myself just as much as I do others (including Broadway or Pizzo from last year).
OSA actually asked a good question - and I answered it. I have no problem with what he wanted me to address.
I still get the sense people don't think I'm for Broadway being our coach - which truly isn't the case. I just don't think we can go through more years of this type of offensive impotency and expect us to...
1) Win an MEAC title
2) Even get an at-large bid in the playoffs
I am truly behind Broadway....but it doesn't mean I have to sit back and accept this low level of offensive production on a weekly (and yearly) basis.
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