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Post by saabman on Oct 28, 2013 1:16:44 GMT -5
The fact that we dont have anyone to replace Kindle when he is playing like this speaks volumes about the recruiting and player development this coaching staff has done at the quarterback position. This what I see guys. 1= We are trying to run a system that we can not recruit the talent for ( the spread). You just can't put any QB in a spread system, you have to have someone that is equal at passing and running with no dropoff in either one. We just don't get that type of talent at this level. We get one are the other ( kindle and Quick). 2= We have to fit the system to the talent we have, spring practice would have helped us a lot . Right now we know that we can run , so we should run the D ball.Let then stack the box. That is why you have a TE. 3= stop playing long ball and make the TE the first option , cut the .BS and play short ball so that we can use the speed that we have in space. If we are going to throw get the ball out of kindles hands quick (don't give him time to over think). Also we are a running team because that is the type of athletes that we can recruit readily to A&T . We had to go back to what we do best. Broadway had a 5'9 1/2" QB at Grambling and won SWAC, Not with a lot of passing but running the D ball and passing when needed. His system their fit his talent. Hayes system was the same @ A&T when he won championships. To me AGGIE ball is a strong running game and a dsent passing game. Now we do have the runners, TE's and fair receivers. Teams play us for the long ball, they let the TE run free use him in the middle of the field to setup the passes to the backs on the swing routes. We have talent but not the type to be a passing team. Broadway get back to AGGIE ball RUN THAT ROCK AND FEED YOUR BACK. |
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Oct 28, 2013 7:27:34 GMT -5
From the FAMU game
73 total offensive plays
13 pass attempts for 18 yds and -6 pts
60 rush attempts for 256 yds and 20 pts
48 non-QB rush attempts for 278 yds and 3 TDs
9 "rushes" by Kindle for -12 yards (some are sacks)
3 team "rushes" for -10 yards (probably fumble recoveries of bad snaps, etc)
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Oct 28, 2013 7:33:04 GMT -5
I heard Lewis Kindle's grandfather passed on Saturday morning just before getting ready to head to the game.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 28, 2013 7:40:49 GMT -5
Terrible news, but if that contributed to him not being mentally ready to play in the game then the coaches should have definitely gone with Quick.
Just as if Kindle was injured or physically unable to perform. You have a depth chart for a reason.
Being only one-deep at the quarterback position is what got Alonzo Lee fired.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Oct 28, 2013 7:44:20 GMT -5
The fact that we dont have anyone to replace Kindle when he is playing like this speaks volumes about the recruiting and player development this coaching staff has done at the quarterback position. This what I see guys. 1= We are trying to run a system that we can not recruit the talent for ( the spread). You just can't put any QB in a spread system, you have to have someone that is equal at passing and running with no dropoff in either one. We just don't get that type of talent at this level. We get one are the other ( kindle and Quick). 2= We have to fit the system to the talent we have, spring practice would have helped us a lot . Right now we know that we can run , so we should run the D ball.Let then stack the box. That is why you have a TE. 3= stop playing long ball and make the TE the first option , cut the .BS and play short ball so that we can use the speed that we have in space. If we are going to throw get the ball out of kindles hands quick (don't give him time to over think). Also we are a running team because that is the type of athletes that we can recruit readily to A&T . We had to go back to what we do best. Broadway had a 5'9 1/2" QB at Grambling and won SWAC, Not with a lot of passing but running the D ball and passing when needed. His system their fit his talent. Hayes system was the same @ A&T when he won championships. To me AGGIE ball is a strong running game and a dsent passing game. Now we do have the runners, TE's and fair receivers. Teams play us for the long ball, they let the TE run free use him in the middle of the field to setup the passes to the backs on the swing routes. We have talent but not the type to be a passing team. Broadway get back to AGGIE ball RUN THAT ROCK AND FEED YOUR BACK. 1. We did recruit the right QB for the spread... we just couldn't get him eligible (Belcher). That's athletics. 2. Definitely 3. That works.... if you trust your TE. I suspect that's why we haven't seen heavy usage of the TE. My one long-term regret and issue I'd have with Bustle is having Xavier Griffin and Denzel Keyes burn their 1st year of eligibility without really making a noticeable impact due to their inexperience at this level and lack of consistency at the QB position. By the time it's all said and done, they will probably be two of the better receivers we've had here. But WR tends to be a much tougher transition than RB, which is why it's rare that true freshman WRs stand out unless they have superior physical ability (think Julio Jones when he was at Alabama) and consistenly solid QB play. Spring ball and a year in our weight training program will allow those guys to take the step up that we'd like to see. |
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Oct 28, 2013 7:49:27 GMT -5
I heard Lewis Kindle's grandfather passed on Saturday morning just before getting ready to head to the game. Thank you for sharing this, 4XL. My thoughts and prayers go out to Kindle and his family. It puts the events of this weekend in a little better prospective. So, this was a true TEAM win, with the team rallying around each other, despite everything else that's happening, on the road. That's a sign of growth and maturity, which is what we this year is really about. |
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Post by Bigboy on Oct 28, 2013 8:37:07 GMT -5
I have learn that no matter what we fans feel about the way Broadway coaches this team he is going to do things his way. A lot of us on this site are calling for Quick to take over as QB and think that he will be better than Kindle. If our coaches felt that same way Quick would be our starter. Evidently they don't feel that Quick can get the job done. I for one trust Broadway's decisions when it comes to who plays and who does not play.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 28, 2013 8:42:02 GMT -5
its always about "team" for those who don't know. finger pointers are for "losers". you can't have "finger pointers" in your locker room because they become a "cancer". there's plenty of blame to go around in football, not just the qb.
4xl, thanks for letting us know about the unfortunate loss of kindle's grandfather. i suppose it is "meaningless" to some folk that the young man loss an immediate family member just before the game. we only see end results without any regard for anything else. everybody talkin' bout how great the defense played which is true to an extent. but just as inexcusable as kindle's pick 6 was, famu's "97 yard" drive at the end of the game is just as inexcusable. but no one sees that as an issue because kindle doesn't play defense.
look, i'm not gonna sit here and act like kindle had a good game. but some folk have a tendency to only pick on one person. so concerned about kindle's stats, having never once shown concern for the defense giving up 97 yards to famu with famu's back nearly in the endzone. oh no, nothing at all wrong with that. had famu won, it wouldn't have been the defense's fault, it would've been kindle's fault for not stopping famu's 97 yard drive....
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Post by Bigboy on Oct 28, 2013 8:46:49 GMT -5
OSA, I was thinking the same thing.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 28, 2013 8:51:40 GMT -5
I have learn that no matter what we fans feel about the way Broadway coaches this team he is going to do things his way. A lot of us on this site are calling for Quick to take over as QB and think that he will be better than Kindle. If our coaches felt that same way Quick would be our starter. Evidently they don't feel that Quick can get the job done. I for one trust Broadway's decisions when it comes to who plays and who does not play. I think it's pretty evident that Broadway feels Kindle is his only legitimate option at quarterback ... and that is what disturbs me. Getting a quality backup for a 5th year senior - who will be gone after this season anyway - should have been the top priority for this coaching staff. Not finding or developing a backup has got to be viewed as a failure in coaching at this point. We saw what happened to the program when Kindle injured his knee before the 2010 season. Broadway has not done anything to improve our quarterback situation since he arrived here. After 2 and half years it is the same as it was during the Alonzo Lee regime. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 28, 2013 9:11:34 GMT -5
I have learn that no matter what we fans feel about the way Broadway coaches this team he is going to do things his way. A lot of us on this site are calling for Quick to take over as QB and think that he will be better than Kindle. If our coaches felt that same way Quick would be our starter. Evidently they don't feel that Quick can get the job done. I for one trust Broadway's decisions when it comes to who plays and who does not play. I think it's pretty evident that Broadway feels Kindle is his only legitimate option at quarterback ... and that is what disturbs me. Getting a quality backup for a 5th year senior - who will be gone after this season anyway - should have been the top priority for this coaching staff. Not finding or developing a backup has got to be viewed as a failure in coaching at this point. We saw what happened to the program when Kindle injured his knee before the 2010 season. Broadway has not done anything to improve our quarterback situation since he arrived here. After 2 and half years it is the same as it was during the Alonzo Lee regime. thrilla, c'mon man. you're better than that. recruiting is easier said than done, especially qb's. everybody and their uncle is trying to recruit qb's. its the most sought after position in football. you can't expect a coach who has a 27 game losing streak and apr sanctions hanging over his head to be able to "hand select" the qb recruits that he wants. i mean, you folk act like recruiting is easy! let's see you guys recruit a top notch qb to a program that is barely getting back on its feet? see how easy that is. see how easy it is to recruit against opposing coaches who use your 27 game losing streak, only 1 winning season over a decade, and apr sanctions against you. trust me, if it was easy, everybody would have a "stud" qb... |
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 28, 2013 9:12:47 GMT -5
Getting a quality backup for a 5th year senior - who will be gone after this season anyway - should have been the top priority for this coaching staff. Not finding or developing a backup has got to be viewed as a failure in coaching at this point. We saw what happened to the program when Kindle injured his knee before the 2010 season. Broadway has not done anything to improve our quarterback situation since he arrived here. After 2 and half years it is the same as it was during the Alonzo Lee regime. The only thing that is the same with the program from the time Lee was the head coach to now is that we are still the Aggies and we play in Greensboro... We'll see what Bamiro and Dawson have next year after they've gone through spring camp and the summer. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 28, 2013 9:31:06 GMT -5
No one said it was easy and that's why not all HBCU coaches make $232K a year. I don't think anyone here is asking for our staff to recruit Taj Boyd or Johnny Manzel, but rather somebody who can be counted on the run or offense and complete a pass for more than 10 yards with some degree of consistency. For Broadway to not improve the quarterback position one single iota since he's been here, it has to be viewed as nothing short of a disappointment by most honest observers.
Development-wise, Kindle is no better now than he was when Lee first recruited him. In a lot of ways, Kindle has regressed since that FAMU game his first year. But what is even more troublesome is that this staff has been unable to find or develop a suitable replacement in two and half years.
Kindle is the best we have on the roster by a long shot and there is nothing that says we should expect a different outcome next year.
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Post by saabman on Oct 28, 2013 9:36:44 GMT -5
I have learn that no matter what we fans feel about the way Broadway coaches this team he is going to do things his way. A lot of us on this site are calling for Quick to take over as QB and think that he will be better than Kindle. If our coaches felt that same way Quick would be our starter. Evidently they don't feel that Quick can get the job done. I for one trust Broadway's decisions when it comes to who plays and who does not play. I think it's pretty evident that Broadway feels Kindle is his only legitimate option at quarterback ... and that is what disturbs me. Getting a quality backup for a 5th year senior - who will be gone after this season anyway - should have been the top priority for this coaching staff. Not finding or developing a backup has got to be viewed as a failure in coaching at this point. We saw what happened to the program when Kindle injured his knee before the 2010 season. Broadway has not done anything to improve our quarterback situation since he arrived here. After 2 and half years it is the same as it was during the Alonzo Lee regime. I disagree . Look Broadway and his staff can only play and work with the talent we have. With no spring practice it became a problem in preparing a back up. I don't think that coach Lee had a winning season. So comparing his regime to Broadway's is not fair. I just feel that some are asking to much from the team and coaches, with out looking at how far A&T has came and how far A&T has to go. As long as we have back to back winning season's and can recruit the right type of players that will fit both the offense and defensive system we will be alright. |
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Post by saabman on Oct 28, 2013 9:42:48 GMT -5
Also how can you not trust the TE if you never throw the ball his way ??
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