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Post by DECKS on Feb 19, 2012 19:46:37 GMT -5
Eaves contract does require him to schedule guarantee (money) games.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Feb 19, 2012 20:23:01 GMT -5
Eaves contract does require him to schedule guarantee (money) games. I am aware of that clause in his contract. I am speaking of next year. There is an indication that it will no longer be required. However, some requirements can remain the same and not change, but the thinking at present is to remove that requirement and generate money in other ways. Let's hope that comes to fruition. That alone will help to eliminate the continuous debate on this site of to rehire or fire. (LOL) His basketball wins and player's academic performance would then be his measurement of success. |
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Post by Gator on Feb 19, 2012 20:40:10 GMT -5
Eaves contract will be modified in the near future to reduce the number of money games, and schedule more games on campus.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Feb 19, 2012 20:49:51 GMT -5
Eaves contract will be modified in the near future to reduce the number of money games, and schedule more games on campus. Yes, that is the thinking. He will schedule not out of requirement but to give his players experience in big games as well as exposure to life experiences and other environments. The tone of that idea is, if you make some money fine but that's not a requirement. |
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 19, 2012 20:55:01 GMT -5
Naborhood - If you know anything about basketball - you know the tech that Eaves got did not cause us to lose this game. That tech only put them up by 1 point with over 10 min. left in the game. I could see your point if there was only 1 or 2 minutes left in the game. That ball headed tall official was making too many bad calls against us. Coach Eaves or any other head coach would have taken a tech to defend his team in that situation. I am not an Eaves supporter but that was not why they lost and you know it, if you really know something about basketball. Coaches take techs all of the time to spark their team, defend their team or to make a statement as to how bad an official is calling the game. That guy was super bad and Eaves had to let him know it. Now, the tech that Whitter received may have been costly. However, they got a tech right after that and we still had our chances. They made their free throws and we did not. We missed easy lay ups and they did not. We rebounded poorly and they did not. You have to be objective "naborhoodsuperstar". I know you despise Coach Eaves by your post but his tech DID NOT lose the game. His players lost the game because they did not play hard down the stretch and convert critical shots. Aggieblackie, I find this post condescending - "If I know anything about basketball"  REREAD MY POSTS - I have stated that when Eaves got the technical foul --- he let the moment/atmosphere overwhelm him, and his behavior (lack of cool) permeated through to the team. After that tech, Central got the lead, clearly played with better composure in the latter part of the 2nd half and left Corbett yet again with a W..... I'm not referring to the tech that cost us the game. Eaves' composure (or lack thereof) is what affected our team and led to us losing the game last night. HIS COMPOSURE SUCKED - while he was frantic, Moton was composed. Another thing - I don't despise Eaves. I want you and others who happen to disagree with me on whatever topic about Aggie basketball to understand this. I'm not a person whose gonna put up with anemic results over NUMEROUS YEARS and sit idly back and let isht slide. At all times, you should expect programs to improve ---- where is the improvement with Aggie basketball?  I don't care who our coach is - the question is is he improving the program. Our coach (whose last name is Eaves) isn't. Our coach (Eaves) has had 9 years to get us back to MEAC prominence. Our coach (Eaves) is nowhere close to this. The problem I have with Eaves is his performance - not the man himself......PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT POINT!!!!!As I have also stated - the coach coached as best he could last night. The players played as hard as they could last night. Aggie basketball simply isn't good enough under Eaves. A change needs to be made after this year is over. If you still want to question how much basketball I do or don't know, feel free. But you are not speaking with a sports novice....far from it. |
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Post by ohsixrain on Feb 19, 2012 21:36:12 GMT -5
It seems that the team doesn't respond to his coaching tactics. I've seen a coach take a technical foul, just to let his team know that he's fighting for them and they should recipricate. That just doesn't happen in Eaves case. Sure, a tech with 10 mins. to go didn't defeat A&T...it was our team not responding to the game situation. That was the point in the game that team was supposed to give everything they had down the stretch. Our team should've found a way to win the game....point blank. I don't care if the calls were going against them, whatever, we were suppose to leave the gym yesterday with a victory. We didn't. Now, whose fault is it....actually, all involved are at fault, but I realize at the end of the day the coach will take the fall for it all. So, I'm inclined to agree with Nabor & Aggie2ru...our program just ain't good enough right now. Maybe, it's what Broadway spoke about during football season, our team has to learn how to win. Yeah, sure you can catch a team off guard or in a slump and win the game. But, you have to be able to beat a team when they are on their game as well, and I don't think we can. It's unfortunate.
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Post by DECKS on Feb 19, 2012 21:47:31 GMT -5
Eaves contract does require him to schedule guarantee (money) games. I am aware of that clause in his contract. I am speaking of next year. There is an indication that it will no longer be required. However, some requirements can remain the same and not change, but the thinking at present is to remove that requirement and generate money in other ways. Let's hope that comes to fruition. That alone will help to eliminate the continuous debate on this site of to rehire or fire. (LOL) His basketball wins and player's academic performance would then be his measurement of success. The money games aren' t the issue. No one expects him to win those games. It's his performance vs. MEAC teams that has most fans upset. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2012 21:55:21 GMT -5
I am aware of that clause in his contract. I am speaking of next year. There is an indication that it will no longer be required. However, some requirements can remain the same and not change, but the thinking at present is to remove that requirement and generate money in other ways. Let's hope that comes to fruition. That alone will help to eliminate the continuous debate on this site of to rehire or fire. (LOL) His basketball wins and player's academic performance would then be his measurement of success. The money games aren' t the issue. No one expects him to win those games. It's his performance vs. MEAC teams that has most fans upset. pretty much. |
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Feb 20, 2012 0:13:22 GMT -5
I am aware of that clause in his contract. I am speaking of next year. There is an indication that it will no longer be required. However, some requirements can remain the same and not change, but the thinking at present is to remove that requirement and generate money in other ways. Let's hope that comes to fruition. That alone will help to eliminate the continuous debate on this site of to rehire or fire. (LOL) His basketball wins and player's academic performance would then be his measurement of success. The money games aren' t the issue. No one expects him to win those games. It's his performance vs. MEAC teams that has most fans upset. The thought process behind this move (if it happens) my friend is that it will relieve some of the pressure off of the coach and prevent creating a losers' mentality among his players before conference play. The hope is that this would allow the coach and players to experience some success of winning by playing teams that are comparable in talent, whether in the MEAC or some other similar conference. The idea is to increase his wins in the MEAC. However, as I've said before, this depends on Eaves. How well he recruits (assessing player talent), teaching the game of basketball and bench coaching. So far, he has not done any of these things well. Oh, he will get a diamond every now and then, and has had some fairly talented teams but still can't win the games necessary to move the program to the top of the MEAC. He seems to stagnate into mediocrity. As you already know, many on this board and in the general community believe that it has to do with him having to raise money by playing major programs and graduating players. I've never subscribed to that theory. That's why a school hires a coach. That's his job. I congratulate him for that, but other coaches are able to do that while winning. Coach Eaves uses that as a crutch sometimes when he speaks to groups and financial supporters. If he is relieved of that responsibility, he will not have an excuse for not being more productive. |
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Post by aggie75 on Feb 20, 2012 1:07:28 GMT -5
The fact that Eaves contract is going to be modified indicates to me that he is definitely going to be back next season. I think it's probably his last chance to sink or swim with no excuses.
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 20, 2012 7:37:06 GMT -5
The money games aren' t the issue. No one expects him to win those games. It's his performance vs. MEAC teams that has most fans upset. The thought process behind this move (if it happens) my friend is that it will relieve some of the pressure off of the coach and prevent creating a losers' mentality among his players before conference play. The hope is that this would allow the coach and players to experience some success of winning by playing teams that are comparable in talent, whether in the MEAC or some other similar conference. The idea is to increase his wins in the MEAC. However, as I've said before, this depends on Eaves. How well he recruits (assessing player talent), teaching the game of basketball and bench coaching. So far, he has not done any of these things well. Oh, he will get a diamond every now and then, and has had some fairly talented teams but still can't win the games necessary to move the program to the top of the MEAC. He seems to stagnate into mediocrity. As you already know, many on this board and in the general community believe that it has to do with him having to raise money by playing major programs and graduating players. I've never subscribed to that theory. That's why a school hires a coach. That's his job. I congratulate him for that, but other coaches are able to do that while winning. Coach Eaves uses that as a crutch sometimes when he speaks to groups and financial supporters. If he is relieved of that responsibility, he will not have an excuse for not being more productive. 60's...... I understand that you certainly know better but it is absolutely asinine for others including administration to think that by scheduling guaranteed money games this is what is keeping Eaves from producing MEAC wins. We are not the only school that schedules guaranteed money games but that point is most definitely ridiculous. If anything scheduling powerhouses should get us "mo better" players because recruits see that they will be playing good programs outside of the conference and they will be traveling to different parts of tne country. Those who believe that will go for "fired ice cream". Get off Eaves jock and stop holding a grown man up. The problem is that he is a mediocre recruiter and coach........after 9 years it looks like that is who he is!!!!!! |
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Post by TOPPDOGG on Feb 20, 2012 8:29:24 GMT -5
I don't understand the thought process about modifying Eaves' contract. A&T isn't the only MEAC school scheduling a bunch of money games. My frustration is mainly around Eaves' MEAC regular and post-season performance. By the time the tourny rolls around no one remembers the big money games from November and December.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Feb 20, 2012 9:54:48 GMT -5
Go out and look at the schedules of our MEAC teams; every single one plays money games with the exception of Hampton. This is just not valid. Most MEAC teams play and average of 6 money games we played 9. I agree the number of money games should be reduced but I just dont see how this affects our performance against the rest of the MEAC
The other school of thought is that this prepares you for MEAC play
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Feb 20, 2012 10:39:13 GMT -5
ToppDogg, 2ru, frisco and 75,
That is exactly my point. Money games are quite common in HBCU basketball and was a big deal with the likes of Fang Mitchell. That was his way of sustaining his program. Even the SoCon and Big South are doing it, so it really doesn't require alot of skill. Apparently the school does not want to summarily dismiss coach Eaves, after he has publicly stated his case for being retained due to his money making skills and academic leadership in athletics. He was hired to do those things while at least winning most if not all of his conference games. We can only guess at the administration's reasoning for a modification (if in fact they do modify it) of his contract, because based on his conference performance most schools would have at least let him go after his fourth or fifth season. So, one can only surmise that this is their way of saying get it done or look for a new position here or else where.
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 20, 2012 11:25:13 GMT -5
ToppDogg, 2ru, frisco and 75, That is exactly my point. Money games are quite common in HBCU basketball and was a big deal with the likes of Fang Mitchell. That was his way of sustaining his program. Even the SoCon and Big South are doing it, so it really doesn't require alot of skill. Apparently the school does not want to summarily dismiss coach Eaves, after he has publicly stated his case for being retained due to his money making skills and academic leadership in athletics. He was hired to do those things while at least winning most if not all of his conference games. We can only guess at the administration's reasoning for a modification (if in fact they do modify it) of his contract, because based on his conference performance most schools would have at least let him go after his fourth or fifth season. So, one can only surmise that this is their way of saying get it done or look for a new position here or else where. I understand you......I dunno man, it's really a trip that we are in the hole that we are in. I have a good feeling about football (at least we are now seeing competence in place) but this basketball thing is not good. I mean it frustrates da hail out of me because we 'pose to be better than this. I like you and some others remember the glory years and it was not just a few years it was many multiple years that we were champs and at the very least for real, for real contenders. I am a sports enthusiast and high school legend (in my own mind) and I knew Eaves would not take us to the promise land after his 4th year. It's just nuthin to look forward to with him in the drivers seat! |
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