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Post by DECKS on Jan 10, 2012 10:49:04 GMT -5
If I ran the conference I would be so upset at how bad A&T basketball has been. They took a gamble by moving the MEAC tournament to Raleigh and now Winston probably in hopes that the A&T faithful could hold the tournament up with it's large fanbase(and the addition of NCCU). With us being out in the first round every year the tournament has seriously suffered. Another good point.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 10, 2012 11:07:02 GMT -5
If I ran the conference I would be so upset at how bad A&T basketball has been. They took a gamble by moving the MEAC tournament to Raleigh and now Winston probably in hopes that the A&T faithful could hold the tournament up with it's large fanbase(and the addition of NCCU). With us being out in the first round every year the tournament has seriously suffered. Another good point. decks, monster stole my thunder... ;D i've stated that repeatedly in the past. however, it is very true...
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Post by aggie2ru on Jan 10, 2012 14:02:47 GMT -5
westcoast....they just let an individual go this past Friday. It was not "slack-o" however. Sources tell me he is basically "on his knees" now trying to keep what he got!
My man is insistent that McAlpin will be shown the door.
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Post by The Professor on Jan 10, 2012 16:44:01 GMT -5
I think we all agree about the underfunding issue. But, I think we can agree to disagree...because, I think without fixing the administration prior to bringing in a new coach is like putting the carriage before the horse....and if we don't fix the problem in the proper order, then we will get more of the same. Do we need a better coach...SURE. Not disputing that at all. But you bring in a good coach that knows what he's doing and then plague him with all the issues surrounding our program and I doubt he'll stay very long. Now, you can be up front and let the coaches know what they are in for before they accept...and MOST knowledgable coaches wouldn't touch us with a ten-foot pole. So then, you are resign to find a young eager coach out to prove himself...i.e. C. Maynor at WSSU. But, I just don't think there are a surplus of good coaches that would jump at us, knowing our issues...especially if it could be career suicide. Me personally, I would entertain the idea of bringing in Shaw's coach, but we must understand the areas that he's lacking in as well. We would need to know and understand how he builds his program. Does he recruit the JUCOs hard? Right now, I don't think we recruit JUCOs at all...do we? This has helped us APR-wise, I'm sure. I can agree with Oleschool about doing our homework before hiring the next coach...but the flip side is, we can do all the homework we want and we can still get the hire wrong. It's not a simple solution. Another great post
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Post by The Professor on Jan 10, 2012 16:48:14 GMT -5
If I ran the conference I would be so upset at how bad A&T basketball has been. They took a gamble by moving the MEAC tournament to Raleigh and now Winston probably in hopes that the A&T faithful could hold the tournament up with it's large fanbase(and the addition of NCCU). With us being out in the first round every year the tournament has seriously suffered. Why is it A&T responsibility to bring fans to the MEAC. They tourny has never been great. What is A&T getting in return from the MEAC? Is there a payout or something that goes along with a great attended tourny. (Only income i know of is the money from the unit earned thru the NCAA tourny) The MEAC is another organization i have no faith in.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 10, 2012 17:12:14 GMT -5
professor, i don't think monster is trying to say its a&t's responsibility to bring more fans. i think he's just saying part of the reason for moving the tournament to winston is because its in close proximity to one of the meac's largest and most loyal fanbases.
i agree with monster. it was probably strategic to keep the tourny in north carolina not only because its centrally located, but also because of its proximity to a&t. unfortunately, our fans have not been a major factor in attendance because we never play in the final rounds. i honestly don't think any other meac school could bring more fans to the tournament than a&t as long as its located anywhere in north carolina. if we played in the meac final rounds, it would boost attendance drastically, no question about that...
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Jan 10, 2012 17:15:03 GMT -5
The MEAC chose the best destination with the best financial package. They would go elsewhere if there is a better offer on the table.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 10, 2012 18:02:39 GMT -5
I was just saying I would be pissed. It would help the tournament attendance if A&T was good.
Anything else I said is just guessing cause I dont know their reasons. I'm sure its what 4XL said. Raleigh didn't offer anything to keep it and I think Winston did outbid Tide Water area. Both are centrally located, so they have to go with what city offers the most money. Professor, you have faith in no one.
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Post by The Professor on Jan 10, 2012 18:35:07 GMT -5
The MEAC chose the best destination with the best financial package. They would go elsewhere if there is a better offer on the table. Raleigh offered a lot. They had just lost the CIAA @ the time and thought the MEAC would be able to replace that lost revenue. Haha, boy were they wrong.
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Post by The Professor on Jan 10, 2012 18:38:49 GMT -5
I was just saying I would be pissed. It would help the tournament attendance if A&T was good. Anything else I said is just guessing cause I dont know their reasons. I'm sure its what 4XL said. Raleigh didn't offer anything to keep it and I think Winston did outbid Tide Water area. Both are centrally located, so they have to go with what city offers the most money. Professor, you have faith in no one. Lol, it would help if they marketed it better. Why not make all schools in the MEAC be on spring break that week. And bring in big acts and events so students will flock to Winston? But again, who am i? I have in a lot of things and people. The MEAC and Dennis Thomas just don't happen to be one of them. Next your going to tell me how great his leadership has been for the MEAC. Come on man, be honest. His leadership can be described in two words, Legacy Bowl ......
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Post by aggie2ru on Jan 10, 2012 19:15:15 GMT -5
I gotta give it to professor.........the MEAC's promotion of it's tourney is wayyyyyy behind.
There are very, very few events that are available in conjunction with the actual games. In one word it is SAD, especially for a HBCU event.
The husters don't even have many events during that weekend so it is real dry compared to what it could be. I have attended the last 4 years in a row and there is basically nuthin to do after the games.
Look what we came from (CIAA) and how we use to party then and how it's set up now. If you get people interested game attendance will go up. The quality of ball that is played is not enough to sustain growth. In otherwords, we need more ideas and implementation of action.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 10, 2012 19:32:20 GMT -5
I was just saying I would be pissed. It would help the tournament attendance if A&T was good. Anything else I said is just guessing cause I dont know their reasons. I'm sure its what 4XL said. Raleigh didn't offer anything to keep it and I think Winston did outbid Tide Water area. Both are centrally located, so they have to go with what city offers the most money. Professor, you have faith in no one. Lol, it would help if they marketed it better. Why not make all schools in the MEAC be on spring break that week. And bring in big acts and events so students will flock to Winston? But again, who am i? I have in a lot of things and people. The MEAC and Dennis Thomas just don't happen to be one of them. Next your going to tell me how great his leadership has been for the MEAC. Come on man, be honest. His leadership can be described in two words, Legacy Bowl ...... I agree, the MEAC leadership has definitely left a lot on the table. No argument there. I'm also not defending our past when it comes to A&T. All I've been saying is the AD is new. You have to give him a chance. No matter what others have done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 19:49:18 GMT -5
westcoast....they just let an individual go this past Friday. It was not "slack-o" however. Sources tell me he is basically "on his knees" now trying to keep what he got! My man is insistent that McAlpin will be shown the door. I would hope he is busting his butt generating Athletic Income. On another note, why in the world can't Earl Hilton handle his own budget? I for the life of me do not understand why Auxiliary Services controls the Athletic Department Budget? I bet if Earl, or whomever the AD was/is had control over his/her budget, we would be seeing better results in Football and Men's Basketball. I hope he is successful in wrangling his budget from Auxiliary Services.
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Post by aggie2ru on Jan 10, 2012 20:31:39 GMT -5
west coast.....He is definitely on da hot seat. I'm with you on hoping that he gets off his a** and gets some money rolling in. I too was hoping that Martin would re-vamp and allow the Athletics Dept handle their own business. Principals should always come first over personalities and when you have different departments (auxiliary) in control there can be differences of opinion. You know how we can be sometimes ;D !
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Post by DECKS on Jan 10, 2012 21:00:37 GMT -5
I gotta give it to professor.........the MEAC's promotion of it's tourney is wayyyyyy behind. There are very, very few events that are available in conjunction with the actual games. In one word it is SAD, especially for a HBCU event. The husters don't even have many events during that weekend so it is real dry compared to what it could be. I have attended the last 4 years in a row and there is basically nuthin to do after the games. Look what we came from (CIAA) and how we use to party then and how it's set up now. If you get people interested game attendance will go up. The quality of ball that is played is not enough to sustain growth. In otherwords, we need more ideas and implementation of action. The MEAC Tournament actually does rather respectable when compared to it's peers and not the CIAA.
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