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Post by DOOMS on Jan 31, 2011 13:39:33 GMT -5
Not to worry, I'm pretty sure Martin wouldn't let Rags win enough games to be considered permanently, even if he had to jump on the field and prevent a touchdown himself.
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Post by twinsdaddy82 on Jan 31, 2011 13:39:44 GMT -5
In my opinion giving Rags the job is just like waiving the white flag on the upcoming season. There is a reason he has been around through so many coaching changes without a sniff of the job......either he is not qualified or the administration is worse than we are thinking now and the latter can't be true!
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Post by Aggie77 on Jan 31, 2011 14:17:26 GMT -5
In my opinion giving Rags the job is just like waiving the white flag on the upcoming season. There is a reason he has been around through so many coaching changes without a sniff of the job......either he is not qualified or the administration is worse than we are thinking now and the latter can't be true! Next season is lost! Tomorrow is Feb 1st. A new coach if hired tomorrow will have to hire a staff and have them in Greensboro no later than March 1st to prepare for spring ball (unlikely). To prepare for spring ball this new staff will have to evaluate the players and design and implement an offensive and defensive system. Due to the lack of continuity there will be defections. Keep in mind we have kept all of Coach Lee's staff in place (I don't think any have left), now we gonna bring in a whole new staff a month before spring ball with a different workout plan, new meeting schedule, a new this, a new that, why because that's the new guy's way. The white flag was thrown back in November when I saw there was no plan. Soon you see that there is still no plan. The Rag's option allows them to take a step back from the panic button and assess the situation before making a real bad mistake. This thing can be salvaged but not in time for next season. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 31, 2011 14:19:41 GMT -5
In my opinion giving Rags the job is just like waiving the white flag on the upcoming season. There is a reason he has been around through so many coaching changes without a sniff of the job......either he is not qualified or the administration is worse than we are thinking now and the latter can't be true! And the latter can be true. No one thought it would ever be as bad as it is now Rags has been around Hayes, Smalls, Fobbs, and Lee. Name 1 Rags could have done a better or just as good of a job as? Well, I can name 3. The one thing you cant do is blame any of those last 3 records on Rags. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks rags is our only option right now. Maybe yall Berry supporters want him as Interim or maybe the assistant DC? But it has to be someone that is currently there. |
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jan 31, 2011 14:38:24 GMT -5
Been posting that for a week. give him a one year option. Plus any kids we are recruting are talking to the current staff anyway. The head coaching job is a fire sale currently. At this point we may need a public aution to hire some one!!!
Even if we started the bidding at 100k. june bug might raise his hand ....maybe not
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 31, 2011 14:49:05 GMT -5
Give it to Odums, Rags,or Morand on the interim. As long as it aint Berry I dont care, but it has to be someone on the current staff in order to have any hope this season.
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Post by twinsdaddy82 on Jan 31, 2011 14:52:14 GMT -5
Before a coach is ever hired for a head coaching job he already has made contacts for his staff. Any coach in America would tell you the same, it would take a coach all of 3 days to a week to have his full staff in and ready to work. You also have to understand that any coach that is coming in now would also have the good young players we already have plus if the offer is made today or tomorrow they have been recruiting all year just like everyone else and could possibly sway some kids to make up a good class of recruits. I have nothing against coach Rags but I just know there has to be some really good reason as to why he has never been anything more than an interim coach....Even if this year is shot already would you really just want a place holder coach or someone that possibly inject some optimism into the program?
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 31, 2011 15:01:03 GMT -5
Methinks you're not looking at this realistically. This isn't a plum job.
You say there's probably a really good reason as to why Rags has never been more than an interim coach. The average coach is saying there's probably a really good reason why this program has been through three coaches and an interim without a winning record since 2003. And there's probably a really good reason they won't offer more than three years even though it's obvious it's a total rebuild.
But for argument's sake, who do you think would come here just before signing day for a three year contract given our current situation and recent history?
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 31, 2011 15:01:23 GMT -5
Before a coach is ever hired for a head coaching job he already has made contacts for his staff. Any coach in America would tell you the same, it would take a coach all of 3 days to a week to have his full staff in and ready to work. You also have to understand that any coach that is coming in now would also have the good young players we already have plus if the offer is made today or tomorrow they have been recruiting all year just like everyone else and could possibly sway some kids to make up a good class of recruits. I have nothing against coach Rags but I just know there has to be some really good reason as to why he has never been anything more than an interim coach....Even if this year is shot already would you really just want a place holder coach or someone that possibly inject some optimism into the program? Would you rather be stuck with a guy, a lesser talented guy for 3 years cause we were desperate. We need to name an interim and make a smart decision after the final game this season. Getting coaches to move(up root families), etc, etc is not easy to do in February. The best a new coach would be able to do right now is bring maybe one guy and keep A LOT of the current staff. Then we would have the same thing as if we gave the interim to Rags. We would just have a different figure head. If the coach was an OC, Odums would still be DC. If coach was a DC then Berry(GOD NO, I would shoot myself) or Morand would be OC. Maynor would have been the exception cause his staff is close already. At this point I would require that the new head coach keep 50% of the staff. |
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Post by The Professor on Jan 31, 2011 16:41:05 GMT -5
Wait, is Lee actually fired? I never heard anything from Martin or saw a press release. Technically, he could just call up Lee, say "man I was just playin', get back here" and carry on like nothing ever happened. All we've heard is rumors. I guess being paying (well, now formerly paying) alums doesn't merit you the bare decency of a press release or any communication whatsoever. there was an article in the paper, but that's about it |
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Post by flaggie on Jan 31, 2011 18:58:19 GMT -5
I just went to hbcusportsonline.com and looked at each MEAC University 2011 recruiting list. We are in trouble!!!! We have offered 5. yes 5 highschool football players a scholarship to play for A&T. It looks like one of the five has already committed to East Carolina. We are in for a long and embarassing football season. I didn't think Aggie Football could ever sink this low. This remeinds me of the Jim McKinley years which were not much better. I am trying to hold down the fort and carry the Aggie Pride flag down here in Florida. It has been a tough job fighting off the Rattlers and BCC folks when it comes to Aggie Football. One of my friends that I work with played football at another MEAC University told about the days their coach told them the road to the MEAC football championship was through Bill Hayes and the Aggies. Where have those days gone?  ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2011 21:14:39 GMT -5
I just went to hbcusportsonline.com and looked at each MEAC University 2011 recruiting list. We are in trouble!!!! We have offered 5. yes 5 highschool football players a scholarship to play for A&T. It looks like one of the five has already committed to East Carolina. We are in for a long and embarassing football season. I didn't think Aggie Football could ever sink this low. This remeinds me of the Jim McKinley years which were not much better. I am trying to hold down the fort and carry the Aggie Pride flag down here in Florida. It has been a tough job fighting off the Rattlers and BCC folks when it comes to Aggie Football. One of my friends that I work with played football at another MEAC University told about the days their coach told them the road to the MEAC football championship was through Bill Hayes and the Aggies. Where have those days gone? ? We only have 7-9 Schollys to give out this year. Remember we got APR restrictions for the next 2 seasons. Cuts in practice time and about 44 Schollys to give out during those seasons. So the fact that we are being active in the Recruiting Races is a good thing and showing that Ragsdale and Staff at trying to hold the fort down. |
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Post by The Professor on Jan 31, 2011 23:07:14 GMT -5
I just went to hbcusportsonline.com and looked at each MEAC University 2011 recruiting list. We are in trouble!!!! We have offered 5. yes 5 highschool football players a scholarship to play for A&T. It looks like one of the five has already committed to East Carolina. We are in for a long and embarassing football season. I didn't think Aggie Football could ever sink this low. This remeinds me of the Jim McKinley years which were not much better. I am trying to hold down the fort and carry the Aggie Pride flag down here in Florida. It has been a tough job fighting off the Rattlers and BCC folks when it comes to Aggie Football. One of my friends that I work with played football at another MEAC University told about the days their coach told them the road to the MEAC football championship was through Bill Hayes and the Aggies. Where have those days gone? ? We only have 7-9 Schollys to give out this year. Remember we got APR restrictions for the next 2 seasons. Cuts in practice time and about 44 Schollys to give out during those seasons. So the fact that we are being active in the Recruiting Races is a good thing and showing that Ragsdale and Staff at trying to hold the fort down. schollys could be less depending on APR report.... Remember we have 2009 - Lee 2008 - Fobbs 2007 - Fobbs 2006 - Fobbs We have to get that avg up. |
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Post by mudabo on Feb 1, 2011 10:34:03 GMT -5
Rags at least has the trust and respect of the players and the knowledge of the players. I think we could win with better a better "Strength and Conditioning" program. My observation for the last 4 years, is that we get beat on the line of scrimmage. That can be addressed through strength, conditioning, and technique Since we don't have a real recruiting class, we must maximize the potential of the players we have. So for me, since we will not be getting a new head coach and staff, I would invest in a proven Strength and Conditioning" coach That would give us the biggest bang for our buck.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Feb 1, 2011 10:43:57 GMT -5
Rags at least has the trust and respect of the players and the knowledge of the players. I think we could win with better a better "Strength and Conditioning" program. My observation for the last 4 years, is that we get beat on the line of scrimmage. That can be addressed through strength, conditioning, and technique Since we don't have a real recruiting class, we must maximize the potential of the players we have. So for me, since we will not be getting a new head coach and staff, I would invest in a proven Strength and Conditioning" coach That would give us the biggest bang for our buck. I actually think that was improved this past season. The guy we got hasn't been there long and I've seen improvement since he took the job. |
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