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Post by DECKS on Jul 7, 2010 18:59:01 GMT -5
[How many of us would actually attend this game in December 2011 if we won the MEAC and bypassed the playoffs?} Just a note, the MEAC winner does not have the choice of bypassing the playoffs Perhaps I wasn't real clear but I didn't think I phrased my statement in a way that inferred we would have a choice. Also since there has been no official vote as of today everything is still hypothetical. Thanks anyway. |
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Post by scaggie09 on Jul 7, 2010 20:38:34 GMT -5
The football fan in me would want to go just to be doing something.... BUT my heart & mind would NOT be in it because I would hate the thought that we QUIT and that is not what I am about.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jul 8, 2010 7:15:11 GMT -5
I would support it the same way I supported the playoffs...if A&T is playing I'm there. If not, I'll watch the game from home.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 8, 2010 10:25:14 GMT -5
i think foregoing the fcs playoffs for the legacy bowl is very "hypocritical" of what i was taught at a&t. when i was a co-op student at a&t, my professors and counselors use to always encourage us that we could compete at fortune 500 corporations with any co-op students from the pwc big time schools. as a result of that nurturing, i now have a staff of pwc grads that reports to me and i've never viewed my degree inferior to a pwc degree. but now, buying into this legacy bowl crap, it sends out a "hypocritical" message that says we're inferior to the pwc's, so let's take our football and only compete amongst ourselves! so now, instead of being viewed as an fcs football program, we'll be viewed as an hbcu "only" football program and that stinks...  |
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 8, 2010 11:01:46 GMT -5
I don't see the correlation between the two. How and what we do on the football field has nothing to do with the value of my degree. If it did, my degree wouldn't have been worth a crap the day we hired Lee Fobbs.
To each his own, I guess...
As far as the actual topic of the thread goes, I'd go if I was within traveling distance. If we're playing, why wouldn't I?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 8, 2010 11:49:11 GMT -5
I don't see the correlation between the two. How and what we do on the football field has nothing to do with the value of my degree. If it did, my degree wouldn't have been worth a crap the day we hired Lee Fobbs. dooms, the correlation between the two is that in both cases (whether rightly or wrongly) hbcu's were "viewed" as inferior to pwc's. both in the classroom and also on the fcs football field. my point is that my a&t mentors taught me not to buy into the "stereotype" that hbcu students were inferior to pwc students. and the "hypocrisy" of that is that a&t "allegedly" is buying into the defeatist attitude that hbcu's are inferior and should back down from the challenge of competing against pwc's... |
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Post by bluehaze on Jul 8, 2010 12:35:24 GMT -5
Playing in a Bowl Game, like the majority of athletic conferences do, does not mean that we are saying we are inferior to pwc's.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 8, 2010 13:07:06 GMT -5
Playing in a Bowl Game, like the majority of athletic conferences do, does not mean that we are saying we are inferior to pwc's. true, but foregoing the playoffs does infer that we're inferior... |
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Post by DECKS on Jul 8, 2010 13:14:25 GMT -5
I don't see the correlation between the two. How and what we do on the football field has nothing to do with the value of my degree. If it did, my degree wouldn't have been worth a crap the day we hired Lee Fobbs. Lol, now that's actually funny!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 13:31:36 GMT -5
Interesting observation: It's would be a difficult task to even convince one another why we should or shouldn't support the Legacy Bowl venture. Also, most students and alumni most likely wouldn't care either way and would show up, if A&T was in the game and if they were able too.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 8, 2010 14:11:08 GMT -5
most students and alumni most likely wouldn't care either way and would show up, if A&T was in the game and if they were able too. they might show up, but i wouldn't say they don't care either way. every single poll and thread that i've viewed on this topic (and there are many) "heavily" favors the meac retaining the fcs playoffs autobid. now i know that doesn't represent the masses, but its a better indicator of the masses than just guessing. so i suppose that if this legacy bowl proposal is accepted, the only way for an meac team to make the playoffs will be to lose the conference championship but finish the season ranked (as a minimum) in the fcs top 10. and that's almost impossible given the perceived strength of the meac. your "best case" scenario would be to lose 1 conference game while another meac team goes undefeated, or lose a tie breaker to another 1 loss meac team. then, your regular season performance must be impressive enough to earn enough "national respect" to finish ranked in the top 10. which means you'd probably need to defeat at least 1 highly ranked and highly respected fcs championship contender (like app state, richmond, or james madison) or defeat an fbs team during the regular season and hope the 1 loss to an meac team doesn't drop you out of the top 10. man, i could see it now! a couple years from now, after beating app state in a regular season game, a 1 loss a&t team loses an meac tie breaker to scsu for the meac championship. scsu gets to go to the legacy bowl and a&t gets an atlarge bid to the playoffs. scsu would be pissed because they have national aspirations to excel at the fcs level and would prefer to go to the playoffs. a&t admins would be pissed because their priority is finances and would rather collect the legacy bowl money than compete in the playoffs. do you think scsu would protest that scenario? |
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Post by bluehaze on Jul 8, 2010 15:53:25 GMT -5
most students and alumni most likely wouldn't care either way and would show up, if A&T was in the game and if they were able too. they might show up, but i wouldn't say they don't care either way. every single poll and thread that i've viewed on this topic (and there are many) "heavily" favors the meac retaining the fcs playoffs autobid. now i know that doesn't represent the masses, but its a better indicator of the masses than just guessing. I look at it a different way. This is really the only fan website we have. The poll on this thread shows 12 going, 8 probably and 16 no (half of which will be at the game if it comes to fruition). So that's still 20 for and 16 against. What's more telling is that on such an "important" issue we have 36 responses. Same with the 10 page threads on MEACFANS. It's the same 10 posters going back and forth with 3 SWAC posters. At the end of the day, the die hards are far and few between. The masses will be at the game... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 17:04:30 GMT -5
they might show up, but i wouldn't say they don't care either way. every single poll and thread that i've viewed on this topic (and there are many) "heavily" favors the meac retaining the fcs playoffs autobid. now i know that doesn't represent the masses, but its a better indicator of the masses than just guessing. I look at it a different way. This is really the only fan website we have. The poll on this thread shows 12 going, 8 probably and 16 no (half of which will be at the game if it comes to fruition). So that's still 20 for and 16 against. What's more telling is that on such an "important" issue we have 36 responses. Same with the 10 page threads on MEACFANS. It's the same 10 posters going back and forth with 3 SWAC posters. At the end of the day, the die hards are far and few between. The masses will be at the game... True. As a matter of fact: Most of the recent graduates and current students sans Athletes and those few die hards I would say are completely neutral on this subject and only care about A&T having a winning season, Beating NCCU & WSSU (for bragging rights) and breaking our Homecoming Losing Streak. |
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Post by noexcuses on Jul 9, 2010 5:28:52 GMT -5
I like how someone above dubbed "IT"...i.e. an HBCU BOWL------the time for THAT KIND of bowl has passed;a POSTSEASON game opportunity for 2nd place MEAC/SWAC finishers is "OK".
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