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Post by cnixon79 on May 20, 2010 18:09:58 GMT -5
I understand oleschool, but understand the Sr. Robert Johnson, and Dwane Joshua played majority of the minutes at 2, and 3. Nic Simpson is the only wing back that played significant minutes. Upchurch, and Lester will be competing at PF. Plus, what other Freshman had outstanding stats. Witter is a 3/4 that didn't produce much, per minutes, L Smith had the same stats Powell did, Powell played more then Buck, and Cooper is a Freshman. So, I believe it's possible for any of these guys to start at the wing position. Why not Powell?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2010 11:08:18 GMT -5
I understand oleschool, but understand the Sr. Robert Johnson, and Dwane Joshua played majority of the minutes at 2, and 3. Nic Simpson is the only wing back that played significant minutes. Upchurch, and Lester will be competing at PF. Plus, what other Freshman had outstanding stats. Witter is a 3/4 that didn't produce much, per minutes, L Smith had the same stats Powell did, Powell played more then Buck, and Cooper is a Freshman. So, I believe it's possible for any of these guys to start at the wing position. Why not Powell? why not powell? well "to me", if i'm the coach, even if he didn't play very much, i'd need to at least see "flashes" of outstanding play from him when he's in the game that says "with extended minutes, this dude's game can make a difference". personally, i didn't see that from powell last season. granted, i didn't see every game he played. but of the one's that i did see, i hardly noticed that he was in the game. on the other hand, the very first time i saw upchurch play, i saw flashes immediately from him. based on who we have coming back next season, upchurch would be a "lock" for my starting 5. and for my money, if lester is as good or better than upchurch, the two of them wouldn't be competing against each other to be in my starting lineup. they "both" would be in my starting lineup if i were coach. i also don't like the idea of having a 5'7" full time starting point guard. i like marc hill, but i think he's better suited to come in off the bench. in my opinion, at 5'7" tall, you need to be able to do at least one or two things "exceptionally well" to get away with being a starter. but hill doesn't do any one thing exceptionally well. he does a lot of things well, but none exceptionally well. not knowing how the new freshmen will stack up, my starting five (excluding freshmen) would be; marc hill - pg nic simpson - sg a. witter - sf d. upchurch - pf t. coleman - c/pf however, according to how good "i think" the freshmen will be, my starting five might be; nic simpson - pg t. cooper - sg r. lester - sf d. upchurch - pf t. coleman - c/pf i also think the freshman, justin black, is talented enough to challenge for a starting job at point guard. i've seen him play a couple of times and i really like his game. he's a "legit" 6'2" tall who can handle, pass, and "defend". he'll probably need to improve his outside shot a little, but he can penetrate quite well and finish strong at the cup. and he's no string bean, he already has a college sized body. i "think" 3 of the new recruits coming in will have a legitimate chance to compete for starting jobs...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2010 11:15:46 GMT -5
hey, cnixon. since you probably have powell's ear, any word on whether eaves will reconsider his offensive philosophy next season? or will everybody on the team have to learn to shoot 3's? the answer to that question is more important to me than who'll start...
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Post by cnixon79 on May 21, 2010 14:13:38 GMT -5
Oleschool, Your first line up is possible, but the 2nd line up? Lester is not a SF, I've seen highlights and he's no further then 12 feet from the basket, and I hear that Eaves is going to play a more traditional style offense.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on May 21, 2010 15:02:25 GMT -5
maybe you switch Lester and Upchurch. Not sure if Upchurch has alot of range but he seems fairly quick and is definetly long. May work well as a slasher
At first I questioned Simpson at the point but with a 6'4 Cooper and Simpson 6'3ish they should at least be able to pass over a trap
And I agree on Marc Hill totaly. Does alot things well but not exceptional. And I guess when I think of a 5'7 point guard you dont expect them to need any help dribbling out a trap or at least they dont pick up their dribble. i.e. 'ICE' Thomas Griffis (ICE would send his teamates down the court and he could blow through any trap without having to pass)
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2010 15:08:06 GMT -5
I hear that Eaves is going to play a more traditional style offense. hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah!! yes, there is a God!! that's the best news i've heard all year long! cnixon, my friend, you just made my day...
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Post by cnixon79 on Jul 14, 2010 12:13:15 GMT -5
Reports are that Freshman Guards Underwood and Black have been impressive in this summers pick up games.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 14, 2010 12:30:21 GMT -5
i really like black. he's the dematha combo guard who came off the bench and only averaged a few points per game. but from what i saw of him when he played against gonzaga high school, he left me with the impression that he's already meac competitive. even as a high schooler, he had a legit d1 body. he's a legit 6'2" with a serious handle. i'm not looking for him to become a big time scorer even though he's a capable scorer. but i love his basketball iq, his handle (lawd knows we need that), and he's a very good defender. with alston graduating and marc hill only standing 5'8", i think black will be getting significant playing time as a true freshman.
i've never seen underwood play, but i'm sure he personally knows black since they're both from the dc area. but i think lester and cooper are eaves' biggest catches in this class. i'd really like to know how they're making out...
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Post by aggielaw on Jul 14, 2010 20:46:38 GMT -5
I spoke to a family friend of Black and he stated that Black will be a two-guard.
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Post by Aggie One on Jul 15, 2010 6:26:04 GMT -5
Better players, more depth and some experience especially in the middle. We'll see if Eaves learned anything. Lester will be the MEAC rookie of the year and possibly All-MEAC as well.
He's as good if not better than advertised. He's not overly tall at 6-6 or maybe 6-7 but is built like as tank at 235 pounds with a man's body and has mad paint moves and finishes with authority from what I've seen of him. Exclusively a paint player with a Charles Barkley type mentality - a mean streak who challenges people on every play. Doesn't try to to do things he can't do.
This year it will be a a question of the coach either learning something and adjusting his game to his personnel or still try to be a systems guy.
Any failures we will experience will not be from a lack of good personnel along the sidelines.
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Post by cnixon79 on Jul 15, 2010 9:51:34 GMT -5
Obviously there still will be a learning curve for Lester. I'm not sure if he's used to going against this size a the D-1 College level. I think it will take some adjusting. With so mucjh
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Post by cnixon79 on Jul 15, 2010 11:23:05 GMT -5
With So much hype, we have to understand that he's a Freshman.
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Post by cnixon79 on Sept 14, 2010 9:28:04 GMT -5
I was very impressed to see youtube interview and Highlights of Ray Lester. Type in Ray Lester Highlights and Interview this summer with Daniel Poneman (Part 1) ~SwagAir Lifestyle~ on youtube. There is a part I, and part II. I was very impressed.
I was able to watch Jeremy Underwood play on Youtube it has a pt I and pt II put (Varsity Boys vs Coolidge on 1/21/2010) in the search. Jeremy is # 12. Jeremy showed his quickness and ability to shot the ball on pt II
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 20, 2010 12:53:20 GMT -5
I was very impressed to see youtube interview and Highlights of Ray Lester. Type in Ray Lester Highlights and Interview this summer with Daniel Poneman (Part 1) ~SwagAir Lifestyle~ on youtube. There is a part I, and part II. I was very impressed. I was able to watch Jeremy Underwood play on Youtube it has a pt I and pt II put (Varsity Boys vs Coolidge on 1/21/2010) in the search. Jeremy is # 12. Jeremy showed his quickness and ability to shot the ball on pt II cnixon, i took a look at the videos and to be honest, i don't see saviors in either lester nor underwood. decent players, but not game changers "as freshmen". having now seen lester on video, you may have been previously correct that he's not quite ready to play the 3 position. i just didn't see the kind of foot speed i need to see for him to play the 3. he's not tall enough to play the 5, so based on the videos, his only position right now is the 4. i think he'll be fine as a 4, but i'd like to see better quickness out of him. and to me, underwood appeared to be a decent shooter, but he definitely isn't nearly as good as justin black. he may be forced into action if we don't get adequate play from hill and the other at pg's. but i don't see underwood having major impact as a freshman. in the videos, lester simply "over powered" those high school players, but i don't think he'll be able to do that as a freshman at a&t. he may even struggle a little his freshman year until his body matures to the point where he can muscle d1 players around. he kinda reminds me of julius peppers when he played basketball at unc, but peppers was more explosive. we'll see, but don't expect lester to put up big numbers as a freshman. maybe down the road, but not as a freshman. the most interesting thing is how eaves plans to use this kid. lester will not have a significant offensive role if eaves sticks with his 3 point shooting offense. eaves would have to change his offensive philosophy completely if he plans on getting the most out of lester...
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Post by cnixon79 on Sept 20, 2010 13:52:40 GMT -5
Oleschoolaggie, I agree with your review of both players. How do you think Lester compares to Upchurch?who will be battling for that 4 spot.
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