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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 25, 2006 8:55:27 GMT -5
To me, he is the right man for the job. I have complete confidence in his ability to lead us out of this darkness. In my opinion, he is doing the best with the dismal hand he was dealt. Only three seniors on the entire team, two freshman quarterbacks, a couple of backup running backs from 05, zero returning starters on offense and maybe the worst offensive line this side of the Dallas Cowboys.
Chris Moneymaker couldn't do anything with that hand.
The only mistake I see that he made was hiring Lavigne. That decision definitely set our entire defense back a notch.
But honestly, why do you think another coach could come in and do a better job, given the situation we are in?
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Oct 25, 2006 9:16:12 GMT -5
I don't think he could have done anything better. I also don't believe he made a mistake in hiring Lavigne as the DC. I think Lavigne is a good coach. We talk about the dismal hand that he was dealt, but I look at it as a positive when you get to replace 21 seniors with your own recruits right away. When you look at a squad of 63, that's a third of your team right there. But I have no doubt that Fobb's is the man for this job.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 25, 2006 9:34:05 GMT -5
To answer the original question: He could've stayed at Texas A&M.
The right man for the job? I don't think so. The man that got the job? Yup. In my opinion he's doing his best with the players he has. A more experienced coach would most likely be doing better. But since we seem to have become the institution that offers chances he might have well gotten what pretty much would be his only chance to be a college head coach with us.
On the other hand, as usual there was never any publication of any of the people interested in the job so maybe he was the "right" man for the job.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 25, 2006 9:35:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but anytime you have to send someone back to their mama's house in the lower 9th ward just two weeks into the season, you made a mistake.
I'm not privy to what the actual reason was behind the firing, but its obvious that it left a major void on the defensive coaching staff.
Adams seems to be a good coach but he was hired to coach the D-line not coordinate the entire defense.
Because Lavigne didn't pan out it caused everyone else to take on a greater workload and expanded responsiblities, which can't be an ideal situation for a brand new coaching staff.
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Post by JayBee on Oct 25, 2006 9:37:30 GMT -5
There's nothing Fobbs could have done better this season. He's playing Freshmen and they are making freshmen mistakes. I really do feel like he should give up the OC to Stewart for next season and just concentrate on being Head coach. This will make a lot of difference and the freshmen will have a year under their belts.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 25, 2006 9:43:36 GMT -5
I've heard mixed reviews on just how effective Stewart is as a coach. Some people seem to think he was the man behind the scenes who got the offense on track towards the end of last year, while others say he just serves in an administrative-type role.
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Post by Aggie One on Oct 25, 2006 11:01:24 GMT -5
Given the circumstances, I am amazed he has kept the kids heads up and they do give the effort desired most every week (exception of the Morgan game). Having played all these young kids this first year should pay big dividends as he brings in a couple of recruiting classes the next couple of years.
I expect a much improved team in '07 and a serious contender by '08 when these kids turn juniors and seniors assuming that we get a new administration that is athletic friendly and Fobbs continues to refine his coaching staff.
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Post by Aggie77 on Oct 25, 2006 11:02:16 GMT -5
What could Fobbs have done better this season?
I think he underestimated the MEAC coaches. I think he overestimated his ability to perform as HC and OC. If he is the right man for the job, then significant improvement will be made next year, because surely he will not make that mistake again.
BTW, I don't completely buy into the “no talent” concept. Maybe that’s the reason for our loses, but not the magnitude of the loses. We are not competitive at any point or phase of the game.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 25, 2006 12:13:14 GMT -5
I am with Doom, since we were not privy to who were interviewed for the job and if the other people interviewed really wanted the job who's to say Fobbs was the best pick of the litter.
I will wait to see what Fobbs does better in December 2006 through August 2007. That is the period where you build your fortunes for the coming season.
I, along with Aggie77, don't believe this "no talent" argument either. There are too many players who did good things in their high school career to call this a no talent team. We can call this team a "don't care" or "confused" team since they didn't do much in the off season to get better for this season. You could tell this by how the team looked in their first three days of traning camp and by the way they got pushed around on the field by WSSU.
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Post by BigtimeAggie on Oct 25, 2006 12:13:33 GMT -5
Agree with Aggie 77 I think he underestimated the MEAC coach and teams
As well as the differnce bewteeen 1-A and 1-AA. I also thnik he overestimated the skill level of the talent he brought in. At this point in the season the kids don't seem to have the ability to execute his scheme on offense I'm sure he's shocked that he is winless at this point in the season
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 25, 2006 12:14:08 GMT -5
I dont think there was anything else he could do. We look like a high school team lining up against some of these opponents. Cant coach how not to get stronger during a game. The athletes on the Shrine bowl team would give us a run. I'm looking for a better output next year and then Big Things in 08. Get them boys in the weight room and cafe the entire off-season and we will be OK.
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Post by Maxell on Oct 25, 2006 12:17:39 GMT -5
The athletes on the Shrine bowl team would give us a run. That's a stretch.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 25, 2006 12:50:42 GMT -5
Just sarcasm, but you get my point. You said "stretch", not "Hell No!"
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 25, 2006 13:04:08 GMT -5
It's not all about size and strength. It's about technique and execution. We haven't had execution for years but the lack of it hasn't been this bad in the 16 years I've watched us play. We are playing poor fundamental football.
There's a difference between being winless and being bad. Last year most of us were talking about how good a Norfolk team we had just beaten had gotten over the course of the season. They showed marked improvement as the season went on. At best we've leveled off. They were winless. We had a bad team last year but still won three games and were in several more.
You can't act like we just have no talent out there. We do and it's not being used correctly or coached properly. There. I said it.
Can I blame Fobbs? Yes and no. He can't just show up and do what he ain't done before. Todd would've figured that out but likewise she had never been an A.D. before so she couldn't just show up and do what she ain't done before either. Fobbs might have a few folks convinced but few of them are on this team. It's clear he's in over his head. No offensive coordinator despite all this his son and the o-line coach are doing it crap. No defensive coordinator. No idea what these teams are throwing at him. It takes us four weeks to adjust to stop the run so people just throw it over our heads. Poor coaching. In his defense there ain't no running backs coach on earth that could win against those odds.
We are winless and we are disturbingly bad. We're at the bottom in offense, defense, and special teams. There are no excuses and no apologies for the amount of money spent on the program to produce this badly. We know we don't spend enough; that's been proven ad nauseum. This team looks like we don't spend a got damn penny.
I, like every member of the team and all the rest of us, just patiently wait for '08.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 25, 2006 17:31:48 GMT -5
Don't count on Fobbs getting a lot blue chippers because that doesn't happen in lower level Division football. You have to develop players with lesser talent to be good. Good football programs have good coaching staffs.
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