|
Post by treese on Apr 21, 2009 9:14:55 GMT -5
This time u r wrong. But it will not matter, if the kids goes to other school. What am I wrong about? This kid has awesome numbers!!! All I'm saying is what is the red flag? You can't put up numbers like that and not have multiple schools take interest in you. Doesn't that make you wonder a little bit? No, I'm not wondering why they backed off, I'm glad they did. I just think this one can be special, I don't know why, but for some reason I do.
|
|
|
Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 21, 2009 9:46:32 GMT -5
What am I wrong about? This kid has awesome numbers!!! All I'm saying is what is the red flag? You can't put up numbers like that and not have multiple schools take interest in you. Doesn't that make you wonder a little bit? No, I'm not wondering why they backed off, I'm glad they did. I just think this one can be special, I don't know why, but for some reason I do. Oh God.
|
|
|
Post by SixtiesAggie on Apr 21, 2009 9:53:25 GMT -5
If this young man is as good as most people on this board think he is, why hasn't Louisville and Kentucky given him a scholarship? As well as other majors? They can do what we can't. Watch him up close and personal. However, any talent addition to our team will be terrific, but I am curious as to why he does not have the big offers he appears to be expecting.
|
|
|
Post by aggiejazz on Apr 21, 2009 10:16:05 GMT -5
If this young man is as good as most people on this board think he is, why hasn't Louisville and Kentucky given him a scholarship? As well as other majors? They can do what we can't. Watch him up close and personal. However, any talent addition to our team will be terrific, but I am curious as to why he does not have the big offers he appears to be expecting. If Louisville or Kentucky had offered Penny a scholarship, A&T ain't recruiting him because he and his coach would not speak to Eaves unless there is some relationship between them and A&T still wouldn't get him. A&T doesn't have the money to waste to chase after high school recruits who have big school offers in hand. Get real! And when some of you Aggies have a big time recruit in your family, y'all ain't sending them to A&T either and never have except on a 1 or 2 occasions. But let him fluck out or get locked up after arriving on that bigtime campus for smoking that weed or messin' with Miss Becky then y'all come calling the HBCUs along with the rest of the alumni. Yea, lets get that knucklehead like that boy out of Wake Forest that Ahhbigboy was screaming that Eaves should get. He gets kicked out of Wake Forest then he couldn't last 3 weeks at UNC-Wilmington before he was in trouble again and got kick out of school. He is now at JC Smith and can't get on the floor.
|
|
|
Post by treese on Apr 21, 2009 10:20:48 GMT -5
No, I'm not wondering why they backed off, I'm glad they did. I just think this one can be special, I don't know why, but for some reason I do. Oh God. good answer!
|
|
|
Post by SixtiesAggie on Apr 21, 2009 11:15:03 GMT -5
Jazz,
Calm down an octave or two. I know that YOU know that everyone on this board knows that if a major offers a scholarship, we won't see that player in Corbett. The tone of my comments or questions raised, is why are we recruiting someone who seems to be lukewarm to A&T? And it appears that he thinks that his skills should be shown at a higher profile institution. My other question was, if he is as good as advertised, why didn't he get major offers? Did they see something in his skill set that made him appear average to them? What makes him the player that will be a major contributor to A&T's program? And it is a well know fact that A&T needs some major contributors.
Now, as far as your soapbox opined orations. You may be in some cases preaching to an empty auditorium or screaming into a dark abyss. Social scientist have difficulty addressing that issue.
|
|
|
Post by Aggie One on Apr 21, 2009 11:22:35 GMT -5
Again guys its about timing. Just like Larry Raper, he will be or may not be a late qualifier. His ACT scores have not come back yet.
Recruiting is a numbers game in football . In basketball, it's more specialized by need at a perticular position. The big boys all want their recruits signed during the early period so they can be prepared for folks leaving early for the NBA as soon as the tournament is over.
You probably right. If Penny had qualified earlier we probably would not be having this conversation but since he didn't we have really become his best option if he wants to play D-1 ball which he obviously does.
The real question is does he also want the academic challenge that goes with that Division One label or will he be content with the playing in the NAIA at Georgetown (KY) and not worry about class work?
My guess is if he gets the 18 needed on the ACT then he'll sign here.
|
|
|
Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 21, 2009 11:23:40 GMT -5
If this young man is as good as most people on this board think he is, why hasn't Louisville and Kentucky given him a scholarship? As well as other majors? They can do what we can't. Watch him up close and personal. However, any talent addition to our team will be terrific, but I am curious as to why he does not have the big offers he appears to be expecting. If Louisville or Kentucky had offered Penny a scholarship, A&T ain't recruiting him because he and his coach would not speak to Eaves unless there is some relationship between them and A&T still wouldn't get him. A&T doesn't have the money to waste to chase after high school recruits who have big school offers in hand. Get real! And when some of you Aggies have a big time recruit in your family, y'all ain't sending them to A&T either and never have except on a 1 or 2 occasions. But let him fluck out or get locked up after arriving on that bigtime campus for smoking that weed or messin' with Miss Becky then y'all come calling the HBCUs along with the rest of the alumni. Yea, lets get that knucklehead like that boy out of Wake Forest that Ahhbigboy was screaming that Eaves should get. He gets kicked out of Wake Forest then he couldn't last 3 weeks at UNC-Wilmington before he was in trouble again and got kick out of school. He is now at JC Smith and can't get on the floor. You are absolutely clueless about Swinton's situation. Yeah, he got in some trouble, but so do several kids. Price for UCONN got caught stealing computers. The other cat for UCONN got kicked off and had to work at a scrap yard to play again. UCONN only made it to the final four this year with those 2 playing a major roll. So some kids should get second and sometimes third chances. You act like our program is so prestigous that Eaves shouldn't entertain the thought. This guy hasn't won anything and struggles to bring in talent every year. We don't have a player on our team (especially in the post) that can hold Swinton's jock. Just ask Rob Johnson. So for you to make that statement just shows me that you'll be holding Eaves' bag for his tee time today. And just to show you how clueless you are with his situation, he isn't even at J.C. Smith. I guess that would explain why he hasn't touched the floor. It's cool though, everyone makes stupid posts up here sometimes. You're no exception.
|
|
|
Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 21, 2009 11:36:12 GMT -5
Again guys its about timing. Just like Larry Raper, he will be or may not be a late qualifier. His ACT scores have not come back yet. Recruiting is a numbers game in football . In basketball, it's more specialized by need at a perticular position. The big boys all want their recruits signed during the early period so they can be prepared for folks leaving early for the NBA as soon as the tournament is over. You probably right. If Penny had qualified earlier we probably would not be having this conversdation but since he didn't we have really become his best option if he wants to play D-1 ball which he obviously does. T The real question is does he also want the academic challenge that goes with that Division One label or will he be content with the playing in the NAIA at Georgetown (KY) and not worry about class work? My guess is if he gets the 18 needed on the ACT then he'll sign here. It's bigger than that. There are several kids that get offered before their score comes back. You think if John Wall's score wasn't in, that the only offers he would have would be from an NAIA school. C'mon, take off the blue and gold blinders and let's really look at this. He could be great for A&T and I don't know anything about him. I'm just saying that there is cause for suspicion.
|
|
oleschoolaggie
Official BDF member
2009 Poster of the Year, 2009 Most Knowledgeable Poster
Posts: 24,210
|
Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 21, 2009 11:39:23 GMT -5
i don't recall anyone on this board praising penney as if he's an espn or rivals top 150 recruit. jazz was exactly right. if the lousiville's and kentucky's of the world are actively recruiting penney, we'd be wasting our precious time and money going after him.
i don't know why the big time schools "apparently" are not going after him. maybe its his grades or maybe he's not major d1 material. but i read in one article that miami, western kentucky, and a couple other major d1's have shown interest.
personally, i'm not impressed by kentucky talent. very rarely, if ever, is a top notch player a native of kentucky. i mean, think about it. how many college all americans or nba all stars do you know that come from the state of kentucky? i can only think of a few college all americans but zero nba all stars. so i don't think kentucky is a basketball talent rich state. other than coleman, i'm not too impressed with the kentucky talent that we currently have on the team.
but that being said, any kid who's 6'5" and averages over 22 points per game deserves attention from eaves. my guess is that dude is not major d1 material but is probably more fit for the mid-majors. i don't think we have anyone on our team that averaged over 20 ppg in high school and we desperately need consistent scoring. that's the primary reason i'm eager to see this kid sign with us...
|
|
|
Post by Aggie One on Apr 21, 2009 12:06:47 GMT -5
Penny like Witter, is a solid mid-major type guy you will find in the MAC, conference USA, the Atlantic 10, and so on. He would be a late pickup for a major school that just suddenly had an opening that needed to be filled right away.
|
|
|
Post by aggiejazz on Apr 21, 2009 12:08:52 GMT -5
I agree with you on the above 'Sixties' and I am not always right just a lot more right than Ahhbigboy.
Ahhbigboy, when you posted this did Swinton have a pistol at your back or was it just a paint gun....... I know of some baaad boys that could 'ball' but crime and drugs were their addiction. Your boy Swinton had potential, I guess, but he wasn't a bigtime baller on the college court. So whenever, if ever he gets back on the court be sure to post his numbers from whatever D-II or NAIA school gets him. BTW, A&T didn't pass on Swinton, he passed on A&T but lets not start this argument again, Ahhbigboy, about if he was contacted or not.
|
|
|
Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 21, 2009 13:42:20 GMT -5
Dude, What do you mean he wasn't a big time baller? He essentially played one year on a below-average Wake team. For the MEAC, he's absolutely a "big time" baller..............THAT'S WHY HE WAS IN THE ACC! And there are several players that wouldn't dare step foot on T's campus, just from the reputation that these clowns have on the NC recruiting scene. Kentucky may be a different story. Furthermore, at this point, a good finish (to his college career) in something like the CIAA or a NAIA superpower will serve him more than suiting up for the MEAC (for like going overseas or something). Boy, you're something. lol At least when I'm going at it with oldeschool, I know he's bringing some real rational basketball thought/knowledge to the table. With you, it's "I love Eaves and nothing else matters!" lol. It's a free country though.
|
|
|
Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 21, 2009 13:48:45 GMT -5
i don't recall anyone on this board praising penney as if he's an espn or rivals top 150 recruit. jazz was exactly right. if the lousiville's and kentucky's of the world are actively recruiting penney, we'd be wasting our precious time and money going after him. I agree with that oldeschool, but what if nobody but the school of the blind is recruiting him, is that when we should step in? I mean, this is the way I'm looking at it. Imagine you see a brand new Ferarri on the side of the road with a sign that says "You can have it" on it. You see world reknown Ferrari experts (like majors and mid-majors) walk up and inspect the car and walk away shaking their head. All I'm asking is why are YOU gonna be the one that tries to take it home? And furthermore, why don't you want to know why the Ferarri experts won't take it home, even if it looks REALLY REALLY good (like averaging a double double)?
|
|
|
Post by Aggie9195 on Apr 21, 2009 15:16:11 GMT -5
Your analogy SUCKS!!! ;D I fail to see how it has anything to do with the matter at hand!
|
|