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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 26, 2011 11:18:20 GMT -5
2007's squad was decent. That was Rush's first year. That team beat every top team in the conference that year...that was when Del. State had the conference on lock. They lost in the semis to FAMU who went on to upset Del. State in the Championship. Don't get me wrong that team was no where near a dynasty but, they were decent. However, they choked in the tourney.
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Post by aggiejazz on Jul 26, 2011 12:05:36 GMT -5
2007's squad was decent. That was Rush's first year. That team beat every top team in the conference that year...that was when Del. State had the conference on lock. They lost in the semis to FAMU who went on to upset Del. State in the Championship. Don't get me wrong that team was no where near a dynasty but, they were decent. However, they choked in the tourney. Decent is not championship good, that particular year when the Aggies went to the tourney semi-finals, Rush was on fire and the team was a big surprise. The following two years when they were one of the favorites, the team was up-and-down and completely fell flat in the tournaments. This past season, the team resembled some of Eaves' past teams where the team showed brilliance at times during the season, only to disappoint at the end of the season.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 26, 2011 13:33:57 GMT -5
Well, I remember in '95, we weren't the best team in the conference that year, it was Coppin. We upset them in the Championship game though. But we weren't dominant.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jul 26, 2011 17:15:03 GMT -5
Well, I remember in '95, we weren't the best team in the conference that year, it was Coppin. We upset them in the Championship game though. But we weren't dominant. Wasn't that Thomas' first year? Who were the players? Were they remnants of Corbett and Capel's teams? What was the talent level? The experience level? Were they better than their coaching and blossomed at the end? Hopefully Eaves gets over the hurdle this year. He has had eight shots at it. Maybe this is his year. Let's hope so.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jul 26, 2011 18:55:58 GMT -5
Well, I remember in '95, we weren't the best team in the conference that year, it was Coppin. We upset them in the Championship game though. But we weren't dominant. Wasn't that Thomas' first year? Who were the players? Were they remnants of Corbett and Capel's teams? What was the talent level? The experience level? Were they better than their coaching and blossomed at the end? Hopefully Eaves gets over the hurdle this year. He has had eight shots at it. Maybe this is his year. Let's hope so. That team was the last time we made the tournament. The team included Thad Young, , Tyrone Brice,Phillip Allen, Tarik Beasly, and John Floyd, Monty Key. They were good. They made the tournament the year before with the same exact team under Coach Capel and the addition of Joe Bunn(who left with Capel). It was Thomas first year as coach, but that team still played like it was Capel's team. The last of A&T's runs. Its been downhill every since. 8 years is a long time to have never even sniffed the MEAC title. I think its a do or die year for Eaves.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 26, 2011 20:20:44 GMT -5
8 years is a long time to have never even sniffed the MEAC title. I think its a do or die year for Eaves. actually, its been 16 very long years since we won an meac championship. i've been a very strong supporter of eaves over the years, but i've just about run out of patience with him. to be honest, i was ready to jump ship after that 3 point shooting debacle he put on 2 years ago. but since a&t extended him after that season, i had no other choice but to be patient at least one more year. and even though he didn't have a very strong year last season, i was still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. that is, i was up until he bailed out in the first round of the meac tournament yet "again"! that kinda did it for me. this season, i really think eaves is gonna struggle because especially without coleman, some of the other meac teams are distancing themselves from us. and i hate to admit it, but nccu is building a monster in durham. morgan and hampton are gonna be even better than they were last year. nickelberry at howard has brought in a stella recruiting class. i haven't looked at eaves' recruiting class very closely yet, but from the small amount of research i've done so far, i haven't seen anybody that looks to be a top notch "instant impact" recruit. i could be wrong, but i haven't seen one yet. considering both coleman and lester are gone, eaves will have his work cut out for him next season. man, i'm really not looking forward to playing central's men next season. thank gawd our ladies have handled central's ladies rather easily recently, so we should have something to brag about regarding the basketball rivalry. otherwise, our men may not get a win at all against central next season...
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jul 26, 2011 20:46:54 GMT -5
Wasn't that Thomas' first year? Who were the players? Were they remnants of Corbett and Capel's teams? What was the talent level? The experience level? Were they better than their coaching and blossomed at the end? Hopefully Eaves gets over the hurdle this year. He has had eight shots at it. Maybe this is his year. Let's hope so. That team was the last time we made the tournament. The team included Thad Young, , Tyrone Brice,Phillip Allen, Tarik Beasly, and John Floyd, Monty Key. They were good. They made the tournament the year before with the same exact team under Coach Capel and the addition of Joe Bunn(who left with Capel). It was Thomas first year as coach, but that team still played like it was Capel's team. The last of A&T's runs. Its been downhill every since. 8 years is a long time to have never even sniffed the MEAC title. I think its a do or die year for Eaves. Aah, very astute Monster. Those were rhetorical questions. There is and was a significant difference between that team (Thomas')and the one with Rush and his teammates. It has been awhile since '95, and you forgot about Anthony Jones their top defensive player. To me, Eaves best team with Rush was the year he had seven seniors. Do all of you remember that team?
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Post by saabman on Jul 26, 2011 22:19:31 GMT -5
Was that the group that had Syracuses on the ropes with a 10pt lead with less then 1:50 sec but let pearl Washington get lose on them and ended up losing . That was a hell of a game. Tee had this little guard it was killing Washington . What was his name.??
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jul 27, 2011 0:54:33 GMT -5
Was that the group that had Syracuses on the ropes with a 10pt lead with less then 1:50 sec but let pearl Washington get lose on them and ended up losing . That was a hell of a game. Tee had this little guard it was killing Washington . What was his name.?? That was the 1988 team which included some of these players: Thomas Griffis, Corvin Davis, Lee Robinson, Kenny Cox, Claude Williams, Glenn Taggart, and Chuckie Becton. Syracuse team included some of these players: Derek Coleman, Rony Seikaly, Sherman Douglas, Stevie Thompson, Mat Roe and Earl Duncan. Don Corbett was the coach. The 1995 team coached by Roy Thomas had most of the players that played against Nolan Richardson's Arkansas Team in 1994 and was coached by Jeff Capel. The main missing player on the 1995 team was freshman Joe Bunn. Those players that played on that 1995 team were tournament tested. They were good. Roy Thomas was not.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jul 27, 2011 4:41:09 GMT -5
Aah, very astute Monster. Those were rhetorical questions. There is and was a significant difference between that team (Thomas')and the one with Rush and his teammates. It has been awhile since '95, and you forgot about Anthony Jones their top defensive player. To me, Eaves best team with Rush was the year he had seven seniors. Do all of you remember that team? LOL, It wasn't that hard to remember. That was my sophmore year. We made it to the tournament both my freshman and sophomore years, so I remember those guys well. I knew a few of those guys personally, so I remember the names like it was yesterday.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 27, 2011 7:41:23 GMT -5
Well, you guys are right it's been a long time coming since A&T has had a dominant basketball team. And to be frank with you, it will be a while before you see another one. Eaves recruits decent ball-players but he doesn't get guys that will dominate his opponent. I don't know if he doesn't due to the APR status or what. I know he had to fix the the basketball team's APR early in his career. But whatever his reasons, I haven't seen him bring in a player that could just dominate his peer. Coleman was the close but he really wasn't that dominant. As for the teams of years past such as '95, they were a very good team but I was simply pointing out they weren't the league's best THAT year, it was Coppin. However, A&T did upset them in the conference tourney. Now, the '88 squad were men playing amongst boys in the conference. They had the conferece on lock dating back to '85-'86. I remember the game against the Cuse in the Dean Dome as well. So, I'd say the '88 squad was the last of the dominant squads that came through A&T. Good ones came after with Capel, but not like those 80s squads that A&T had. Just look at the banners in Corbett, that tells the story.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jul 27, 2011 9:09:43 GMT -5
I remember the game as well as I was there sitting in the stands. My sophmore year as well. I lived in Corbett so I knew a few of the guys.
One thing that stuck with me was the entire crowd turned on Syracuse and 80% of the people in the Dean Dome were shouting "Lets Go Aggies" The game was tied at the 5 minute mark but we just lost it from there. Probably Corbetts biggest weakness; he had several opponents on the ropes but we could not close the deal.
When Capel had Ark. on the ropes he went for the kill shot; but they just had a little more juice than we did.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 27, 2011 9:58:40 GMT -5
the best aggie men's basketball teams i've seen came during the james "the bird" sparrow era. i'm sure they accounted for at least 3 of those meac championship banners that's hanging in corbett. now, i may get some of the names wrong 'cause its been a minute, but i think the starting 5 during bird's era was ron johnson (6'8" power forward), sinclair colbert (6'10" center), lj pimpkin (6'9" small forward), bird (6'6" shooting guard), and somebody help me out with the point guard's name. i forgot his name but i can see his face in my memory. when's the last time a&t had size like that!
that my friends was a hail of a team! we had plenty of size! we kicked much azz! and for those who don't know, bird use to always put on a show! dude was a "trash talker" too! especially against wssu and nccu.
for the last 16 years or so, our undergrads have been deprived of what aggie pride is all about! in my day, almost everywhere we went on the road to play hbcu's we talked big trash and backed it up big time! i loved going to howard and shoving it in their faces! during that time, the only other hbcu in the country that probably carried a heavier stick than we did was alcorn state. we're talkin' late 70's early 80's, alcorn had some "monster" teams. i think we may have loss a game or two to them, but not by much.
man, i really miss those days! dayum!! look how far we have fallen! now, we can't even win a first round meac tournament game! unbelievable!! we've turned a complete 180...
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Post by aggie1 on Jul 27, 2011 10:34:59 GMT -5
IT AIN'T LIKE THAT NOW. OUR BASKETBALL PROGRAM (MEN) HAS GONE TO HELL AND HAS NOT COME BACK. BACK IN DA DAY COACH IRVIN HAD ONLY ONE ASSISTANT (COACH HORNSBY HOWELL) AND HAD TO TEACH CLASSES ALL DAY AND HE STILL WON CHAMPIONSHIPS. NOW EAVES HAS 4 OR 5 ASSISTANTS (NOT ANY GOOD) SEVERAL VOLUNTEERS AND DOES NOT HAVE TO TEACH CLASS AT ALL AND HE CAN ONLY BARELY BREAK .500. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE. HE HAS GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING ON SOMEBODY AT A&T TO CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED TO COACH. DAMN!!!
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Post by aggie1 on Jul 27, 2011 10:39:54 GMT -5
I AGREE THE BEST GAME EVER WAS PLAYED BETWEEN A&T AND NORFOLK STATE - 3 OVERTIMES - 134 -132 NORFOLK STATE.
COACH CAL IRVIN, COACH CORBETT AND COACH BIG HOUSE GAINES ALWAYS WENT NORTH (PHILLY,NEW YORK, JERSEY AND D C ) TO RECRUIT PLAYERS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? EAVES ALWAYS GOES TO KENTUCKY ... IS THAT WHY HE IS A SUB PAR COACH?
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