Aggie77
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Post by Aggie77 on Nov 17, 2008 23:53:23 GMT -5
It may be coaching, but if this doesn't change it will more of the same . . . losses.
T. Coleman Min 27 * FG 1-1 3Pt 0-0 * FT 1-2 * Off 1 * Reb 4 Ast 1 * TO 4 Stl 2 * Blk 1 PF 3 * Pts 3 This guy will have be at least a 10 & 10 guy every outing for this team to be successful. I remember the announcers calling K. Shepherd's name more than his. If he is playing more than ten feet from the basket its coaching, but if he is standing around then we have a real problem. This guy needs to crank up the aggression meter and get in the game. One shot attempt, 4 rebs, ayfkm?
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Post by aggiebornandbread on Nov 18, 2008 0:24:40 GMT -5
Coleman needs to step up; HE cant live off last year.... K. SHepard is just young.. Both will contribute that there true worth I think will not be seen till next year.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Nov 18, 2008 7:24:36 GMT -5
well allof the coaches you mention make more than eaves except norfolkI think,and based on your criteria and history, I dont think you would be happy with any of those coachesn the long run.. would you find fault somewhere or maybe you would be like you say we are .. have your head in the bushes...and againhere we go again with the 38%... Coppin was awful last year and lucked up and won the tournament and it came out in the NCAA. Morgan or Hampton would have represented the conference better,....To me thats who should represent the conference ... the team that wins the regular season, second place or the tournament second place shoud try an go to the NIT if the commissioner works a deal with those folks... Long Run? With the exception of Norfolk, all of the coaches I've mentioned are proven successes everywhere they've been!! And get real with that NIT concoction. Some of those second place teams get at-large bid. And most people would rather see a 5th place Big East team play in the NIT than the 2nd place MEAC team.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Nov 18, 2008 7:31:39 GMT -5
It may be coaching, but if this doesn't change it will more of the same . . . losses. T. Coleman Min 27 * FG 1-1 3Pt 0-0 * FT 1-2 * Off 1 * Reb 4 Ast 1 * TO 4 Stl 2 * Blk 1 PF 3 * Pts 3 This guy will have be at least a 10 & 10 guy every outing for this team to be successful. I remember the announcers calling K. Shepherd's name more than his. If he is playing more than ten feet from the basket its coaching, but if he is standing around then we have a real problem. This guy needs to crank up the aggression meter and get in the game. One shot attempt, 4 rebs, ayfkm? This is what I've been trying to tell everyone. The big guys are 20 feet from the basket handing the ball off to small guards. Eaves runs a wheel/UCLA cut type offense. But Coleman hasn't been properly developed. He never could create his own shot and it's obvious that no one worked him in the offseason. Not all Eaves' fault though for that. The kid has to want to get better as well.
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Post by treese on Nov 18, 2008 9:28:47 GMT -5
I know one kid Eaves missed, Curry's younger brother( Seth Curry G 6-1 170 Freshman Charlotte, NC ) , he is at Liberty Unv......First game drop 23 pts in a 97-77 win over Montreat. Curry also had seven steals in the contest, tying a record at Vines Center. sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=283192335 shame we missed out on him!!!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 18, 2008 13:33:11 GMT -5
man, you’re the ultimate pessimist! i guess the coach at depaul shouldn’t have a job using your logic... Depaul? Where did that come from? My pessimism about the men's program serves me ten times better than your optimism does. lol My beliefs never let me down when it comes to them. if eaves can't coach, then how in the hail did he take an hbcu into rosemont, illinois on the home court of depaul university where his team not only beat depaul, but also broke an allstate arena record for most 3's in a game with 17? and his star guard broke another single game allstate arena record for most 3's with 10? i mean, we broke 2 records! dayum, you sure do have a lot of credibility when you say eaves can't coach. the man takes an hbcu into rosemont on the home court of a "big east school" and breaks records that no other division 1 team in the country had ever done! yeah, this eaves dude can't coach at all, huh bigboy? yep, and you've got a whole lot of credibility dude! have you ever heard of the phrase, "talkin' loud but ain't sayin' nothin'...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 18, 2008 13:42:04 GMT -5
bigboy, How do you know who can coach or not? Are you a coach? Based on your post I'm assuming you would have won this game. Dumb @ss post. Can Fobbs coach? Did you have to coach in the NFL to come to that conclusion? Plus, who said anything about winning the game? Anybody on this board could have found a way for their team to get 2 points in 8 minutes. You sound like an idiot for even taking that position. At least when I critcize, I come with a certain level of competence. Step your game up. lol you come with a certain level of competence? what da hail does that mean? and by the way, what qualifications do you have to back up your criticism of eaves? have you ever coached organized basketball at the high school level or higher? have you ever played college basketball before? have you ever played and coached in the nba? what about pro ball, anywhere? have you ever won an ncaa division 1 national championship? have you ever coached an hbcu team that defeated a big time basketball school like depaul? well, what about a major d1 like smu? if you can't answer yes to the above questions, then on what grounds do you figure you know more about basketball than eaves? just because you say so? yep, that's what i thought. so let me ask you something bigboy (since you say eaves can't coach). is it eaves' fault that a&t has had only 4 winning records over the last 20 years? huh? that's right, 4 winning records in 20 years! is that eaves' fault? we're talkin' 20 years dude! now who do you blame for that? eaves? eaves has only coached 5 of those 20 years. so who do you blame, bigboy? most of us know the answer to that question and i'll give you a hint. it ain't eaves!look, not scoring in an 8 minute span is not unheard of, though rare. i didn't see the game but there could be legit reasons why a team doesn't score within an 8 minute span. sometimes a team can simply fall into a drought, or the opponent can slow down the game by running time off the clock, or the opponent could take away the easy shots forcing us to take poor shots, or perhaps the team doesn't have a scoring leader to look to, or perhaps the teams hasn't played together enough to establish its identity. there's any number of reasons...
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Post by aggie75 on Nov 18, 2008 18:10:50 GMT -5
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Post by aahhbigboy on Nov 18, 2008 18:19:03 GMT -5
and by the way, what qualifications do you have to back up your criticism of eaves? have you ever coached organized basketball at the high school level or higher? have you ever played college basketball before? have you ever played and coached in the nba? what about pro ball, anywhere? have you ever won an ncaa division 1 national championship? have you ever coached an hbcu team that defeated a big time basketball school like depaul? well, what about a major d1 like smu? if you can't answer yes to the above questions, then on what grounds do you figure you know more about basketball than eaves? just because you say so? yep, that's what i thought. Quick and easy...... Answer to one or more of these questions is yes.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Nov 18, 2008 18:25:38 GMT -5
so let me ask you something bigboy (since you say eaves can't coach). is it eaves' fault that a&t has had only 4 winning records over the last 20 years? huh? that's right, 4 winning records in 20 years! is that eaves' fault? we're talkin' 20 years dude! now who do you blame for that? eaves? eaves has only coached 5 of those 20 years. so who do you blame, bigboy? most of us know the answer to that question and i'll give you a hint. it ain't eaves!Any idiot knows that it is extremely difficult to finish with a winning record. Until conference games start, HBCU's are usually playing money games where they are severely outmatched. Before Eaves started scheduling cupcakes, it wasn't uncommon for a MEAC school to be like 1-7. So that refutes that stupid rant. If you notice, I keep reitterating 38% because it refers to Eaves' in-conference win pct. Match that against the other coaches in the last 20 years (Even Hunter who had a 1-26 season) and chances are we won't hear from you Oldeschool. lol
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Post by aahhbigboy on Nov 18, 2008 18:30:17 GMT -5
if eaves can't coach, then how in the hail did he take an hbcu into rosemont, illinois on the home court of depaul university where his team not only beat depaul, but also broke an allstate arena record for most 3's in a game with 17? and his star guard broke another single game allstate arena record for most 3's with 10? i mean, we broke 2 records! dayum, you sure do have a lot of credibility when you say eaves can't coach. the man takes an hbcu into rosemont on the home court of a "big east school" and breaks records that no other division 1 team in the country had ever done! yeah, this eaves dude can't coach at all, huh bigboy? yep, and you've got a whole lot of credibility dude! have you ever heard of the phrase, "talkin' loud but ain't sayin' nothin'... You said it yourself man. You sound so emotional. The team hit 17 3 pointers and one guy hit 10. Hardly any team would overcome that. That had nothing to do with coaching. VMI hit 13 3's on Kentucky the other night and won IN RUPP, the most storied college program of all time!!!! Are you ready to give VMI's coach the Duke job? Exactly! It has nothing to do with coaching. The guy was in a game-long zone which is extremely rare. You sound crazy.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Nov 18, 2008 18:39:57 GMT -5
look, not scoring in an 8 minute span is not unheard of, though rare. i didn't see the game but there could be legit reasons why a team doesn't score within an 8 minute span. sometimes a team can simply fall into a drought, or the opponent can slow down the game by running time off the clock, or the opponent could take away the easy shots forcing us to take poor shots, or perhaps the team doesn't have a scoring leader to look to, or perhaps the teams hasn't played together enough to establish its identity. there's any number of reasons... You are defending a coach whose team scored 1 point in the last eight minutes of a game. On another post, you're calling him the Messiah coach because Rush got into a zone. Let's just face it, you're in the tank for him and I'm not. Just because you're keeping his golf score and holding the bag for him doesn't mean I have to. lol It's just a difference in opinion. Mine just happens to be right. lol
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 19, 2008 13:27:21 GMT -5
bigboy, you didn't answer a single question i posed for you. not a single one! that says it all! i rest my case, your honor... ;D
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Post by Aggie9195 on Nov 19, 2008 14:21:48 GMT -5
He did answer them! lolol
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 19, 2008 16:42:41 GMT -5
He did answer them! lolol he has yet to state his qualifications, sir. i'd suggest to you that they probably aren't even "remotely" close to that of one mr. jerry eaves. yet he implies to know more about basketball than eaves. so don't just say you can answer yes to one or more questions. that's classic dodging of the question. tell us exactly which one's you can answer yes to...
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