Sidney Lowe Can Kiss..........An Aggie's Feet

[Aggie One]

I think Battle should demand an apology from NCSU's Chancellor immediately which I know is not going to happen but let me be on the record about Mr. Lowe and his comments.

Lowe is and has always been joke as a coach, as a father, and to try to blame A&T for creating his spoiled, no account, triffling, thug azz, drug dealing, shot somebody in the back son ..... I CAN'T EVEN FIND THE WORDS I REALLY WANT TO SAY IN A PUBLIC FORUM!!!!

[DOOMS]

Until I see a quote that says that Lowe said “A&T sucks” without ellipses in the middle and with a date-stamp attached, I don’t buy it. I’ve seen the N&R switch up people’s words entirely too many times in order to rile people up. It seems to have worked again.

The first quote says “relatives blamed the environment at N.C. A&T, where Lowe II was a student, for his troubled behavior.” You know dang well if one of those relatives was Lowe himself, that quote would say so. Since it doesn’t say that Lowe said it, he ain’t say it.

The second quote comes directly from Lowe and says "I didn't think he was ready for that environment," the father said. "He's quiet, he's shy, he's vulnerable. I worried about him. We kept contact ... but you could see changes starting to occur." Does he mean the kid wasn’t ready for A&T’s environment? Does he mean the kid wasn’t ready for any college? Does he mean the kid left home a square and in order to fit in was likely to run with the wrong crowd no matter where he went? It looks to me like it means what it says, which is that the kid was quiet, shy, and vulnerable, i.e., impressionable, and was the type most likely to run with the wrong crowd.

Forgive me for bucking the popular trend of this thread, but I’ve been on this forum too long to buy this crap. This is the same paper that regularly looks for digs at A&T, including twisting words from former coaches with years’ old quotes. I ain’t about to believe them now. I remember writing a letter defending A&T against one of their many poorly worded columns a few years ago and identifying myself as an attorney. The response had nothing to do with how poor the article was and had everything to do with “you can’t sue us because, uh, well, you just can’t.” I hadn’t even hinted at legal action. I just put Esq. on the end of my name. These clowns got defensive because they knew they were wrong.

As for the Raleigh paper, they ain’t been our best friends either. And even their quote has a chunk, Lord knows how big, dug out of the middle and we have to assume the context is that A&T is bad. Again, if Lowe straight up said “A&T turned my kid into a killer” that would be the quote we would see. Since I ain’t seen it, he ain’t said it. I said almost the exact quote when my aunt and uncle sent my little cousin to A&T and I had literally just graduated when I said it. I knew dang well the boy wasn’t ready for college away from home because he lacked maturity and I knew that I wasn’t going to be there to steer him. Sure enough, he dropped out.

My personal opinion (until I see an undoctored, direct quote otherwise anyway) is that Lowe’s saying his kid was immature, period, and he didn’t feel he was ready to be outside his parents’ jurisdiction. As for second cousin Junebug that went to Central and gay cousin Ramitup that went to Winston and their uncredited comments, who gives a peanut?

[aahhbigboy]

You know, I have to agree with DOOMS. But in addition to his comments...

Some of you really take this Aggie Pride crap too far. Even if Lowe senior did say that, is it really part of your character to be that vicious towards a family when they're down? Yes, the statements are ludicrous, but d**n, look in the mirror. How, in 2008, can you wish failure on another black man? I don't excuse the comment, but I don't wish the man's whole life falls to the pits.

What's really crazy is that most of you were more vocal on Senior bashing A&T than you were on Junior's actions!

Some of you really need to grow the heck up.

[bluehaze]

Jul 19, 2008 10:58:26 GMT -5 aahhbigboy said:

Some of you really take this Aggie Pride crap

Pretty much sums up every post you've made on this message board

[aggiejazz]

Sidney Lowe is not a "babe in the woods" when it comes to the press media. He has in the past corrected any misunderstanding that was printed in the newspapers or stated in other media. He is also not living in a vacuum and no doubt has heard some of this criticism that has reverberated in this thread. If Lowe does not issue any correction on the negative statements, quoted or insinuated by him via the newspaper then my criticisms of him stands.


AGGIE PRIDE!!!!!

[aggiejazz]

Sidney Jr was a UNC-G student, I believe was in his second semester, and he robbed UNC-G students supposedly over a drug deal gone bad. You noticed N&R skipped over writing about drug dealing on UNCG campus. You best believe there would have been five days of N&R stories if this had happened on A&T's campus. Remember the A&T student who was killed off campus and N&R made it an A&T story about crime.

Sidney Sr may not be able to read since he missed all those crime stories in the News and Observer about NC State students being arrested for dealing drugs, committing robberies and sexual assaults. Maybe that is why Moonhead paid a small college extra dough to finish his degree without doing any class work. Crime happens any and everywhere regardless of what gullible people think who thought it can never happen to them or in their neighborhood.

Let's admit there are black people who are prejudice against blacks and anything they deem as predominately black. A&T has its problems, so Lord knows it doesn't need to be accused of any problems that doesn't involve them and had nothing to do with a problem, like Sidney Jr.

[DECKS]

I agree with everything you said Jazz. "Moon Head" owes A&T an apology or at the very least a clarification of his remarks. I think it's also a shame that Judge Frye gave such a light sentence. That kid deserved 15 years; not 15 months!

[Aggie77]

Has anyone uncovered an email address for Mr. Lowe? I searched the NCSU athletic site, but came up with nothing. I would like to write Mr. Lowe a email on the subject.

[Aggie77]

sidney_lowe@ ncsu.edu

In case you desire to explain some things to Mr. Lowe.

[DOOMS]

His supposed e-mail is at the bottom of this waste of bandwidth I received in my in-box earlier:

All,

Please read the story below. It's time to rally together to clear the name of our alma mater from the false accusations and insinuations made by the family of Sidney Lowe II. As alumnus, I'm sure you remember the golden rule that no one talks about A&T and gets away with it. Well, this is a classic case of us needing to take it to someone's chin for attempting to degrade the name of our alma mater.

Lowe II Sentenced to 15 Months in Prison

Sidney Lowe II Pleads Guilty to 12 Charges

By NICOLE FERGUSON
FOX8 News


GREENSBORO, N.C. -- A judge has sentenced the son of North Carolina State basketball coach Sidney Lowe to 15 months in a low-security prison farm on dozen charges, including robbery and kidnapping.

Lawyer Locke Clifford said Tuesday that Superior Court Judge Henry Frye Jr. sentenced Sidney Lowe II to a total of 11 years in prison, but then suspended the sentence to 15 months. The judge also ordered that Lowe serve five years of probation.

Earlier in the day, the elder Lowe held back tears as he asked the judge for leniency. His son faced a maximum 23 years on the charges that stemmed from a pair of 2007 incidents.

"I'm proud of the way he has come out of this -- getting back to being the person that he is," Lowe said. "Obviously I love my son, and I'm sorry to the victims -- that you had to go through what you went through."

The elder Lowe said that North Carolina A&T University wasn't his first choice of schools for his son, and other family members said the younger Lowe's shy and quiet nature was transformed while a student there.

"He wanted to dumb down and thug up when he went to school," said uncle Michael Grace. "He wanted to be accepted. He wanted to drop his britches around his butt and show his underwear."

That environment, his defense attorneys said, is where Lowe II fell victim to peer pressure and drug abuse that led to his involvement in two March 2007 armed robberies.

In a plea deal, Sidney Lowe II pleaded guilty Monday to six counts each of robbery with a dangerous weapon and kidnapping, along with possession of a weapon on educational property, possession with intent to sell and deliver marijuana and possession of ecstasy. Police had accused Lowe II and another man of going to a house and striking one of its occupants on the head with a bottle.

Lowe II also entered an Alford plea Monday to conspiracy to commit armed robbery, stemming from a shooting at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. Under an Alford plea, an individual does not admit guilt, but acknowledges the state has enough evidence to convict him or her.

The campus shooting happened in a dorm room and injured freshman Stephen Cobb, who suffered gunshot wounds that were not life-threatening, authorities have said.

Brian Martin, 20, was accused of shooting Cobb over a marijuana deal while Lowe stayed in the car, said Assistant District Attorney Stephen Cole. Martin pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges related to the two incidents.

Lowe and Martin were trying to steal money and marijuana from Cobb, according to arrest warrants. Police said Cobb was later charged with several drug-related offenses.

Today, the judge said Lowe's recovery efforts and his family's character all played a role in the decision.

So now, I'm asking all alumni to rally together to get an apology and make this family accountable for the actions of their son. If you are as appalled at all of this as I am, please do the following:

1. E-mail Sidney Lowe directly at [e-mail].

2. E-mail the reporter, Nicole Ferguson @ [e-mail], on this story and question why she didn't press the issue of Sidney Lowe II taking responsibility instead of allowing them to blame A&T.

3. E-mail NCSU's Chancellor, Dr. James Oblinger @ [e-mail], demanding a public apology for the comments made by Mr. Lowe. We need to question how they can hire someone who works with young men everyday that is supposed to be preparing them for the future but can't teach his own son to be accountable for the choices he made.

This is sad. The only thing Lowe has been credited with saying is "North Carolina A&T University wasn't his first choice of schools for his son" and folks want to string him up and rape him anally. Like we're smarter than Judge Frye now. If Sidney said something crazy out of his mouth about the presiding judge's alma mater I'm sure his kid wouldn't be planting tomatoes for the next year. The media have deluded you.

But feel free to let him have it, as if his son turning into an imbecile isn't enough for him to deal with right now.

[aahhbigboy]

Oh My God. I really can't believe this is going there. This is utterly unbelievable.

I'm embarrassed as an alum over some of you guys.

[Aggie77]

I think you are confusing Former Chief Justice, N.C. Supreme Court, Henry Frye with Superior Court Judge Henry Frye Jr. Plus the comments are post trial.

[DOOMS]

I am. That being said it doesn't change the fact that all the man has been credited with saying is "North Carolina A&T University wasn't his first choice of schools for his son." In my opinion we will look like a bunch of got dang fools filling up his e-mail box and causing a stir over that, while our grad rate hovers under 40% and our football team can't win a game. Priorities waaaay out of whack.

[Aggie77]

Though I see your point, I also don't see this " . . .and folks want to string him up and rape him anally." As the goal either.

The email clearly states, "So now, I'm asking all alumni to rally together to get an apology and make this family accountable for the actions of their son. If you are as appalled at all of this as I am, please do the following: . . ."

I think it’s important that the Lowe family hear from people that have a different viewpoint. Granted some emails will have grammatical errors and emotional logic, but so what, both the reporter and the Elder Lowe and hopefully family members will better understand that they painted the other 10k students not on trial with the same brush. The so-called “environment” is every where including UNC-G and NCSU, but the individual makes the choice and that’s were the blame and consequences belong, not the “environment”, not the parents.

Though we are harping on what was allegedly said, there is an awful lot not being said. I would be more supportive the Elder Lowe if his comments, “were my son did a dumb thing” or “my son dodged a bullet and should be grateful for this break” or “we as family noticed a changed and should have taken a proactive interest” No his comment was, A&T wasn’t my first choice, hell its wasn’t his son’s either, wasn’t he at UNC-G first?

[DOOMS]

I agree, but the thing is I'm certain Lowe probably did state that his son did a dumb thing. I earnestly believe the paper is at fault for picking and choosing quotes to show A&T in a negative light, as is usually the case.

It doesn't even make sense for Lowe's only comment to be "A&T wasn't my first choice for my son" without some prodding.