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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 24, 2007 10:38:44 GMT -5
This is ia snippet from an earlier article.
"The new chancellor at A&T, Stanley Battle, says it’s time to place an emphasis on quality over quantity when it comes to enrollment. Higher admission standards is an obvious way to go.
The Board of Governors is leaning in that direction, considering a proposal to set minimum requirements for high school grade-point average and SAT score. The first step, 2.0 and 700 effective in 2009, is so modest that it’s meaningless. Raising those levels to 2.5 and 800 four years later is better but still not daunting. The standard would eliminate applicants who, statistics indicate, likely have little chance to succeed in college, while leaving room for those who might be able to overcome limitations with hard work and the right assistance.
More help for struggling students is important. UNC officials note that athletes admitted despite substandard high school credentials graduate at higher rates than students with similar deficiencies. Why? They get tutoring. It may be more cost-effective to provide tutoring for non-athletes than to let them drop out and lose the benefit of the money spent for their education to that point.
But universities already spend a lot for remedial classes, so the long-term solution is to improve the preparation students receive at the K-12 level. It should be possible to raise college admission standards, enroll more students and improve graduation rates. "
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Post by aggie82 on Oct 24, 2007 11:03:37 GMT -5
i heard it at the Gate City Alumni meeting last Tuesday
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Post by Maxell on Oct 24, 2007 12:02:24 GMT -5
82, That article says 2.0, not 3.0. Is A&T looking to exceed that or did you hear it wrong?
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Post by Aggie One on Oct 24, 2007 12:15:56 GMT -5
I believe Bowles would like to see that 3.0 goal by the end of the decade for the entire UNC system.
Graduation rates are down all over the place and like most other things in this country, downturns of any sort impacts the HBCUs in far greater proportion since we take in more academically at risk students.
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Post by Bigboy on Oct 24, 2007 12:26:45 GMT -5
I don't think we (HBCU's) should stop taking in those at-risk students. I know some don't make it but some of them do make it and go on to be very successful.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Oct 24, 2007 13:27:22 GMT -5
I know it's a tricky balance between advancing the academic profile and maintaining growth. But, as far as athletics are concerned, we can cancel Christmas if they increase the academic requirements. We are barely competing now. And a 5'8" guard? ? They've got to be crazy. If that is what they wanted, I guarantee you they couldn't find a better small guard than Josh Chavis that was at Dudley. He only won 2 state championsips and lost in the final his senior year. Plus, the coaches could have recruited him on a bike and he's better than any guard we have right now. That is, if you're looking for a distributer and not a point who's competing against Rush for shots. I just don't get it.
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Post by aggie82 on Oct 24, 2007 14:11:17 GMT -5
great basketball comment "aahhbigboy"....i dont know how hard they recruited josh, but i do know that the school he committed to just went DI last year...he was in their first recruiting class of DI...regardless of how much your budget is, it doesnt take that much money to send a kid a letter when he's in the 9th grade and follow his progress...with most kids signing after their junior year, you have to identify kids early on....
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 24, 2007 14:32:41 GMT -5
The AAU gurus in NC aren't talking up A&T, you can bet on that. As far as getting players from Dudley, I think it can be the case of being too close to home for a lot of them.
I agree with you all about giving a 5' nothing guy an out of state scholarship but sometimes there are special guys you can't keep your eyes off when they are on the basketball court. Someone who may remind you of the Mugsy and others that have made it into the NBA recently.
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Post by Aggie77 on Oct 24, 2007 15:05:38 GMT -5
It’s a great basketball comment if Josh Chavis wanted to come A&T and we didn't recruit him, otherwise it's just a lot of talk and saying nothing.
See, this how speculation works; maybe Josh wanted to go to start-up D1 program, maybe a two time state champion looked down on A&T, or maybe he held out for UNC or Duke and they never came knocking.
Now here are the facts; these two were recruited and want to come to A&T, both have committed early, both appear to fill a need for next season.
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Post by aggielaw on Oct 24, 2007 15:58:52 GMT -5
They seem to have strong academic backgrounds and picked us over some other good programs. Considering the limited exposure HBCU(MEAC) programs receive, we should be happy and keep striving.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2007 19:22:08 GMT -5
Can they play should be the only question..Chaplin.Webster..Porter..Johnson and Alston are in state recruits. What you should be able to recruit and who you get are wholly different .
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Post by Hollywood on Oct 24, 2007 20:10:22 GMT -5
Remember, Thomas (Ice) Griffis was 5'-8" and from what I remember, he held his own with Sherman Douglas of Syracuse in the NCAA tournament
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Post by Aggie One on Oct 24, 2007 22:24:26 GMT -5
There are five slots left to fill for next year so I wouldn't get too caught up in the lack of in-state recruiting just yet. We will need those 6-5 to 6-7 swing guys that can go inside and outside with offense and one more big man. The four front court players we brought in for this season will be major factors but guards and the three spot are a must for next season.
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Post by aggie82 on Oct 25, 2007 7:03:20 GMT -5
my initial comments had nothing to do with the size of the players...my comments were based on a something that i read about our budget...if i am not mistaken, i think i read that we only had funds for 11 of the 13 scholarships...that means that we have 3-4 kids who are not receiving money...i just thought that the money would go further with 2 instate scholarships vs 2 out of state scholarships...and..Ice Griffis was instate @ 5'8" ..like I said previously, based on our limited resources, it just doesnt make good economic sense...again, nothing to do with basketball talent or ability...Purely dollars and sense...
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Post by AGGIE Til I DIE on Oct 25, 2007 8:55:07 GMT -5
To me talent is talent. Depending on the amount of money in the recruiting budget will factor into how far the scouts will reach out. I say as long as the talent is coming from quality programs, the players have a strong academic background, and can play ball then I don't care where the players come from. As the basketball program become more of a success; the program will grow, the perception of the program will grow. I think we are heading into the right direction.
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