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Post by moaggies5 on Jul 18, 2024 12:28:41 GMT -5
2039 v BT > Trump v Biden
Both sides have logical, thought provoking points. Largely both sides operate in fact. And I don't feel like the passion would end in a seizure or marketing gimmick
Are either of you open to politics? I would vote for both of you over our current candidates. Sigh...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 18, 2024 12:29:02 GMT -5
My bad. I keep forgetting that you are so well-informed about everything that is happening with the AAF. AAF doesnt even send out information regarding how much money is raised... They have reported giving in at least a couple presentations in the last few years. You probably received the information in face-to-face meetings, those that are not in AAF chapters receive zero information from them.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 18, 2024 12:29:04 GMT -5
I disagree with you, Shamika Pyfrom has a full-time job as the AAF Director. So you think the Marcus T. Johnson track naming and donation happened because of AAF volunteers? When was the last time you actually interacted with her or participated in an event she organized? Because you are not in the know you assume things are not happening, maybe her primary focus are corporate and big money donors. Your 19.99 club is not going to equal to $2.2M. You're right. If you managed to get 10,000 alumni to donate monthly to the 18.91 club, you'd have $2,269,200 every year as opposed to a one-time donation. And to tie this back into the actual topic, those 10,000 would be more likely to be engaged during games because they're official stakeholders. Just a thought.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 18, 2024 12:32:59 GMT -5
I disagree with you, Shamika Pyfrom has a full-time job as the AAF Director. So you think the Marcus T. Johnson track naming and donation happened because of AAF volunteers? When was the last time you actually interacted with her or participated in an event she organized? Because you are not in the know you assume things are not happening, maybe her primary focus are corporate and big money donors. Your 19.99 club is not going to equal to $2.2M. You're right. If you managed to get 10,000 alumni to donate monthly to the 18.91 club, you'd have $2,269,200 every year as opposed to a one-time donation. And to tie this back into the actual topic, those 10,000 would be more likely to be engaged during games because they're official stakeholders. Just a thought. It requires more effort to get 10000 people to donate $2.2M versus 1000 people... When you look at return on effort, focusing on big donors wins 10/10 times. Look at our fundraising for the academic side, on avg our alums donate around $3M, it would take 7 years to secure $20M. We just recieved a $20M donation from one foundation...that relationship building and securing of gift did not take 7 years.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 18, 2024 12:34:10 GMT -5
My bad. I keep forgetting that you are so well-informed about everything that is happening with the AAF. AAF doesnt even send out information regarding how much money is raised... You probably received the information in face-to-face meetings, those that are not in AAF chapters receive zero information from them. Please do not forget again lol. You didnt even receive the survey from the AAF lol.
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Post by Maxell on Jul 18, 2024 13:33:39 GMT -5
[ It requires more effort to get 10000 people to donate $2.2M versus 1000 people.... It diesn't take more effort. It takes will and expertise. We have a captive audience of nearly 90,000 impressions a year at games, tailgates, shows, and activities. Not to mention the various mailing lists and social media out;ets. There are people on this board that could make it happen in a year if working on it full time, including myself. And could do it wothout cannibalizing current donation streams, $18.91 at a time.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 18, 2024 13:33:39 GMT -5
A&T has a chance to become the premiere athletics environment and fanbase in the CAA. Can we do it is the question. that "should not" be our goal cuz we were already there "day 1" that a&t joined the caa. since when has "athletics environment and fanbase" become a higher priority than "winning"? who cares if we have the best "athletics environment and fanbase" if we're not winning "jack"! is that suppose to be like a "consolation prize"? i mean, instead of worrying about being the premiere athletics environment and fanbase, shouldn't our top priority be to become the premiere athletics department in the conference? true story, there was a time when my wnba dc mystics led the wnba in "attendance" several years in a row but was also among the worst teams in the wnba. nonetheless, these folk hung a "banner" in capitol one arena in recognition of leading the wnba in "attendance" but most of the fans were embarrassed by it. basically the mystics were saying, since we "stink" on the basketball court, let's "pacify" our fans by hanging an attendance banner. so you seem to be of the same "mentality". basically you're saying that since we can't win "jack" in the conference, let's celebrate being the best athletics environment and fanbase despite being a "bottom feeder" in the conference. man, some of us need to re-evaluate our "priorities"...
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 18, 2024 13:37:24 GMT -5
[ It requires more effort to get 10000 people to donate $2.2M versus 1000 people.... It diesn't take more effort. It takes will and expertise. We have a captive audience of nearly 90,000 impressions a year at games, tailgates, shows, and activities. Not to mention the various mailing lists. There are people on this board that could make it happen in a year if working on it full time, including myself. And could do it wothout cannibalizing current donation streams, $18.91 at a time. It takes a lot more effort to manage that
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Post by Maxell on Jul 18, 2024 13:42:33 GMT -5
Winning covers a multitude of sins, but losing reveals them.
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Post by Maxell on Jul 18, 2024 13:51:41 GMT -5
It diesn't take more effort. It takes will and expertise. We have a captive audience of nearly 90,000 impressions a year at games, tailgates, shows, and activities. Not to mention the various mailing lists. There are people on this board that could make it happen in a year if working on it full time, including myself. And could do it wothout cannibalizing current donation streams, $18.91 at a time. It takes a lot more effort to manage that Not in the long term. Sure you have to build it but it is recurring revenue not a series of one time donations. Once you build the infrstucture management is easier. In addition, corporate sponsors look at alumni giving rate as a head count and one factor to inform them whether to even invest. You give two birds with one stone. You improve you giving rae nearly 10x for athletics. Both appraches should exist with eaqual strength because they enhance each other.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 18, 2024 14:03:27 GMT -5
Before we go too far and say some on here seem to believe PWI ice is colder/better, I can CLEARLY say FAMU's engagement/environment makes ours look like child's play. I was there in 2019.
- Student section behind visitor's bench - Students harass the visiting team with trash talk & several different chants. Had our team VERY distracted. - Their mascot is very active in dancing and riling their fans up. Has at least one special dance that they get into big time. - Their announcer was much more "ratchet". - Their band is also on the visitor's side and close to the visitor's bench.
I also understand Southern's environment is very good.
We'll see what nccu has on 9/21, but if 2018 was any indication, they're much better too.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 18, 2024 14:27:58 GMT -5
With FAMU and that "school" up 85, I think they don't have a track separating the fans from the field.
As for Southern, they Southern.
Centuries ago when JSU came to Greensboro, the JSU fans we hung with complained about our atmosphere even though we probably had 18,000 there and they were loud. The tailgate was set up way too late for their liking. The band wasn't cranking constantly enough. Folks were wearing whatever as opposed to school colors... As been stated a number of times by a number of posters on this thread, SWAC in general is a different ball-game. That being typed they generally seem more concerned with attendance, game day atmosphere, band performance, and NFL hall of famers than winning.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 18, 2024 14:30:46 GMT -5
Before we go too far and say some on here seem to believe PWI ice is colder/better, I can CLEARLY say FAMU's engagement/environment makes ours look like child's play. I was there in 2019. - Student section behind visitor's bench - Students harass the visiting team with trash talk & several different chants. Had our team VERY distracted. - Their mascot is very active in dancing and riling their fans up. Has at least one special dance that they get into big time. - Their announcer was much more "ratchet". - Their band is also on the visitor's side and close to the visitor's bench. I also understand Southern's environment is very good. We'll see what nccu has on 9/21, but if 2018 was any indication, they're much better too. I agree with you with the exception of NCCU...they support when they are winning. So, that's quite obvious they turn out in big numbers when their team is on top, who doesn't? Let them start losing and see what you get.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 18, 2024 14:34:45 GMT -5
Before we go too far and say some on here seem to believe PWI ice is colder/better, I can CLEARLY say FAMU's engagement/environment makes ours look like child's play. I was there in 2019. - Student section behind visitor's bench - Students harass the visiting team with trash talk & several different chants. Had our team VERY distracted. - Their mascot is very active in dancing and riling their fans up. Has at least one special dance that they get into big time. - Their announcer was much more "ratchet". - Their band is also on the visitor's side and close to the visitor's bench. I also understand Southern's environment is very good. We'll see what nccu has on 9/21, but if 2018 was any indication, they're much better too. I agree with you with the exception of NCCU...they support when they are winning. So, that's quite obvious they turn out in big numbers when their team is on top, who doesn't? Let them start losing and see what you get. Again, this is about engagement. And they are much more engaged and have things going on in their stadium than we do. We'll see what they have/do on 9/21.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 18, 2024 14:44:45 GMT -5
So why do you say black culture is the reason why our crowd engagement is not strong?
You guys just say emotional stuff without any evidence or logic to support it.
I thought Aggie2039 was the king of making nonsensical arguments on this board, but you are about to take his crown.
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