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Post by planoaggie on Jun 19, 2024 11:43:21 GMT -5
Those are FBS rules not FCS Hmm, didn't realize there were separate FBS and FCS rules for sensible business practices? 🤔 Agree. I guess I did not refresh to see your post before I posted.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 19, 2024 11:46:30 GMT -5
Hmm, didn't realize there were separate FBS and FCS rules for sensible business practices? 🤔 We literally just fired Washington the year after he signed a contract extension. If they want to let somebody go, they can. This ain’t a mom and pop shop. Paying $300K is a lot different than $1.8M
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 19, 2024 11:49:22 GMT -5
Those are FBS rules not FCS I don't believe there is such a rule at any level of college competition, but a mindset or wise decision-making so it applies to us in all of our sports. FBS has more money than FCS therefore the rules and business practices are different. $1.8M is a lot of money to payout at one time, then hire another coach at $365K...so in one year we would pay the football HC $2.1M!!! The Athletics department does not have $2.1M laying around.
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Post by Maxell on Jun 19, 2024 11:50:59 GMT -5
In my best Iverson voice:
"Why we ttalking about contracts? we talking about congracts, not the games. Contracts?"
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 19, 2024 11:53:35 GMT -5
Those are FBS rules not FCS Hmm, didn't realize there were separate FBS and FCS rules for sensible business practices? 🤔 It's definitely different, even in life those with money abide by different rules and business practices. If I make $200K a year I can afford to save $50K a year and still afford a $459K home. A person making $100K can't save $50K and afford a $459K home...
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Post by bluehaze on Jun 19, 2024 12:02:09 GMT -5
I don't believe there is such a rule at any level of college competition, but a mindset or wise decision-making so it applies to us in all of our sports. FBS has more money than FCS therefore the rules and business practices are different. $1.8M is a lot of money to payout at one time, then hire another coach at $365K...so in one year we would pay the football HC $2.1M!!! The Athletics department does not have $2.1M laying around. In my best Malcolm X movie voice “Get your hands outta my pockets!!” They’ve got the money. It’ll be spread out and absorbed. Every college and business in America does it. It’ll be a sunk cost and you move on. But enough negative talk, it won’t be an issue. Brown will get us on the right track.
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 19, 2024 12:03:26 GMT -5
In my best Iverson voice: "Why we ttalking about contracts? we talking about congracts, not the games. Contracts?" I had hoped to move the coach's contract talk to another thread I created, but no one appeared interested. It is hijacking A&T-Roy's good thread on football "team" season prediction.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 19, 2024 12:03:51 GMT -5
If not for Norfolk State, we would have had a BOSTON run on us last year. I have absolutely no idea how we'll finish....but based upon last year, I'd go board (4 books/wins); honestly, in spades rules, if I could bid even less, I would.
Coach Brown has to show me/us something. We should have a very good idea as to whether Coach Brown has the goods (or not) to be our coach of the future, based upon what he is able to do this year.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 19, 2024 12:30:29 GMT -5
hey, no need to drag me into this debate. i was just trying to act somewhat as an interpreter, but i actually could care less about the coaches' contracts, other than just the general terms like pay and for how long. ya'll carry on, but i'm not really interested in the coaches' contracts... No harm done. I am not as informed on many A&T topics as you and others so I ask a lot of questions to learn. I typically don't care about coaches contract either, but since Coach Brown has been hired his contract comes up often in conversations of what A&T can and can't do. My curiosity is understanding why by studying A&T's past coaching hire practices. This helps me decide what posted information is pure speculation, has some truth to it, or factual. that's a good practice on your part (fact checking) cuz there are a few folk on bdv who post stuff that's not true and provide no evidence or proof to confirm that stuff. kudos for you! i don't like "misinformation" either...
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 19, 2024 12:32:24 GMT -5
I don't believe there is such a rule at any level of college competition, but a mindset or wise decision-making so it applies to us in all of our sports. FBS has more money than FCS therefore the rules and business practices are different. $1.8M is a lot of money to payout at one time, then hire another coach at $365K...so in one year we would pay the football HC $2.1M!!! The Athletics department does not have $2.1M laying around. Your last post may be correct as it applies to A&T's current situation "if it comes to that which I pray it does not because I am rooting for Coach Brown and A&T to succeed." Again, you are "assuming" it all most be paid at once. Also, if he finds another job his new salary will offset what he is owed by A&T. Even with my what I said above, nothing in your post supports your statement that this good business practice or rule applies only to FBS and not FCS schools. The amount of money these schools are dealing with maybe different, but the practice/rule still applies or is valid. Your post "could be" used as proof of why FCS schools should heed this rule or warning and not as proof that the rule does not apply. People see things from different perspective. I wish some of this good information and discussion provided by many would be taken up in the appropriate thread. Maybe the moderate can move some of these posts so that future replies will be in the correct thread.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 19, 2024 12:35:26 GMT -5
Those are FBS rules not FCS I don't believe there is such a rule at any level of college competition, but a mindset or wise decision-making so it applies to us in all of our sports. see, you already said it previously. good idea to "fact check", beware of "misinformation" floating around on bdv. and just for the record, there is no such rule regarding coaches' contracts at "any level"...
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 19, 2024 12:41:09 GMT -5
FBS has more money than FCS therefore the rules and business practices are different. $1.8M is a lot of money to payout at one time, then hire another coach at $365K...so in one year we would pay the football HC $2.1M!!! The Athletics department does not have $2.1M laying around. Your last post may be correct as it applies to A&T's current situation "if it comes to that which I pray it does not because I am rooting for Coach Brown and A&T to succeed." Again, you are "assuming" it all most be paid at once. Also, if he finds another job his new salary will offset what he is owed by A&T. Even with my what I said above, nothing in your post supports your statement that this good business practice or rule applies only to FBS and not FCS schools. The amount of money these schools are dealing with maybe different, but the practice/rule still applies or is valid. Your post "could be" used as proof of why FCS schools should heed this rule or warning and not as proof that the rule does not apply. People see things from different perspective. I wish some of this good information and discussion provided by many would be taken up in the appropriate thread. Maybe the moderate can move some of these posts so that future replies will be in the correct thread. Nothing that the previous poster provided proves it is actually accurate. It this point it is simply an opinion
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 19, 2024 12:43:01 GMT -5
If not for Norfolk State, we would have had a BOSTON run on us last year. I have absolutely no idea how we'll finish....but based upon last year, I'd go board (4 books/wins); honestly, in spades rules, if I could bid even less, I would. Coach Brown has to show me/us something. We should have a very good idea as to whether Coach Brown has the goods (or not) to be our coach of the future, based upon what he is able to do this year. I love the real ♠️ terminology you used to explain your answer. I also agree with letting Coach Brown prove what he can do this year under extreme duress then have a discussion about A&T options.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 19, 2024 12:48:07 GMT -5
FBS has more money than FCS therefore the rules and business practices are different. $1.8M is a lot of money to payout at one time, then hire another coach at $365K...so in one year we would pay the football HC $2.1M!!! The Athletics department does not have $2.1M laying around. Your last post may be correct as it applies to A&T's current situation "if it comes to that which I pray it does not because I am rooting for Coach Brown and A&T to succeed." Again, you are "assuming" it all most be paid at once. Also, if he finds another job his new salary will offset what he is owed by A&T. Even with my what I said above, nothing in your post supports your statement that this good business practice or rule applies only to FBS and not FCS schools. The amount of money these schools are dealing with maybe different, but the practice/rule still applies or is valid. Your post "could be" used as proof of why FCS schools should heed this rule or warning and not as proof that the rule does not apply. People see things from different perspective. I wish some of this good information and discussion provided by many would be taken up in the appropriate thread. Maybe the moderate can move some of these posts so that future replies will be in the correct thread. TX A&M had to ask the booster club to help pay the cost of Fischer buyout... A&T Athletics Foundation nor Athletics has $2.1M to buyout and bring a new coach on board. We will use unrestricted contributions within the 12th Man Foundation for the first one-time payments and the athletic department will fund the annual payments for the remaining portion by growing our revenues and adjusting our annual operating budget accordingly,” Bjork said. “This will only involve athletics and 12th Man Foundation funds.” Not even TX A&M has the buyout money readily available...
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Post by bluehaze on Jun 19, 2024 12:52:23 GMT -5
Your last post may be correct as it applies to A&T's current situation "if it comes to that which I pray it does not because I am rooting for Coach Brown and A&T to succeed." Again, you are "assuming" it all most be paid at once. Also, if he finds another job his new salary will offset what he is owed by A&T. Even with my what I said above, nothing in your post supports your statement that this good business practice or rule applies only to FBS and not FCS schools. The amount of money these schools are dealing with maybe different, but the practice/rule still applies or is valid. Your post "could be" used as proof of why FCS schools should heed this rule or warning and not as proof that the rule does not apply. People see things from different perspective. I wish some of this good information and discussion provided by many would be taken up in the appropriate thread. Maybe the moderate can move some of these posts so that future replies will be in the correct thread. TX A&M had to ask the booster club to help pay the cost of Fischer buyout... A&T Athletics Foundation nor Athletics has $2.1M to buyout and bring a new coach on board. We will use unrestricted contributions within the 12th Man Foundation for the first one-time payments and the athletic department will fund the annual payments for the remaining portion by growing our revenues and adjusting our annual operating budget accordingly,” Bjork said. “This will only involve athletics and 12th Man Foundation funds.” Not even TX A&M has the buyout money readily available... His contract is in the $18.91 forum. It’s not a lump sum buyout. He gets paid monthly and if he gets another job, they only owe him the difference between his new job and what his salary was for us.
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