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Post by aggiestats on Jun 18, 2024 9:25:51 GMT -5
We can't afford buyouts, our basketball program is proof of that. Give the man time to build the program.
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 18, 2024 10:02:39 GMT -5
We can't afford buyouts, our basketball program is proof of that. Give the man time to build the program. How does the basketball program prove we can't afford buyouts? I agree on the patience comment.
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Post by scotthall2119c on Jun 18, 2024 10:24:20 GMT -5
WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE TO WSSU! That's what East Carolina and Jacksonville's fans said about losing to us! Yeah, those fans who knew nothing about football, nothing about A&T football team and just thought this small FCS HBCU can't compete with us. However, I had several conversations with my brother, who played at ECU years back, and a number of his football friends the year before the A&T game and a few weeks leading up to the game. These guys know the program and keep up with the team and each one of them said that A&T team could beat ECU. In fact, my brother and two others EXPECTED A&T to beat them. Of course, any team can be beaten on any given day. I also understand that us Aggies are scarred from last season, but my God we got to stop with the "house is on fire" stuff. We all know the situation that coach Brown walked into and the timing of his hiring. This is only year 2 for Brown and only one full recruiting season, let's see what the year brings. I think many will be happily surprised. Well, maybe not happily for some. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Like everyone else, I expect and would love to see a lot more wins this season. However, personally, I simply want to see an improved offense (execution, scoring, pass-production, match-up isolation, etc) and an improved defense with better D-Line play to keep some pressure off the backend that can make the plays to get off the field. If such improvement brings 2, 3, 4, 5 wins, then so be it. You know you can play well and still lose games. I'm most concerned that the program is building momentum going forward and continuing to play better football. With that, wins will come.
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Post by aggie2008 on Jun 18, 2024 11:56:22 GMT -5
WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE TO WSSU! That's what East Carolina and Jacksonville's fans said about losing to us! The game against WSSU reminds me of VUU/Hampton (2019 I think) and VSU/NSU in 2023 where the D2 team pulled out the victory; WSSU always play us tough as a natural rival. Hopefully our final result is the opposite on 9/7/24.
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Post by saabman on Jun 18, 2024 12:04:19 GMT -5
That's what East Carolina and Jacksonville's fans said about losing to us! The game against WSSU reminds me of VUU/Hampton (2019 I think) and VSU/NSU in 2023 where the D2 team pulled out the victory; WSSU always play us tough as a natural rival. Hopefully our final result is the opposite on 9/7/24. Winston is no different than any team on our schedule. The object is to beat the teams on your schedule it doesn't matter who they may be.
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Post by aggie30 on Jun 18, 2024 12:53:28 GMT -5
How many years does Coach Brown have to turn the program around? How many wins does it take for us to be happy? Is it a CAA title or making the FCS playoffs? I am not sure what will make the fan base happy. I would like a CAA title.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 18, 2024 13:07:30 GMT -5
How many years does Coach Brown have to turn the program around? How many wins does it take for us to be happy? Is it a CAA title or making the FCS playoffs? I am not sure what will make the fan base happy. I would like a CAA title. i think its safe to say that beating wssu, nccu, and any ghoe opponent would make "all aggies" happy relative to those specific games. but as far as "overall"? i personally won't be happy unless we return to being legitimate conference championship "contenders" every season. that's the bar that's been set by our previous two head coaches...
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Post by jbrob on Jun 18, 2024 13:15:38 GMT -5
FYI
We lost to Winston Salem State University the last time we played them. They're probably not as good as they were then but strange things happen.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 18, 2024 13:36:55 GMT -5
FYI We lost to Winston Salem State University the last time we played them. They're probably not as good as they were then but strange things happen. true, that was coach lee's last season as our head coach (2010) and connell maynor's first season as wssu's head coach. we had beaten the sheep two seasons in a row before that but those were "losing seasons" for us, nonetheless. coach lee beat the sheep in 2009 (19-10), we went 4-6 that season. and yes, even the "infamous" lee fobbs beat the sheep (14-8) in his last season (2008) after breaking "the streak" in the previous game against jcsu in the season opener. so yeah, we haven't played the sheep since losing to them in maynor's first season as wssu head coach...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 18, 2024 13:48:44 GMT -5
just for the record, i personally "miss" playing the sheep. its been 14 years since we last played them, but our rivalry with wssu has "always" been just as intense as our rivalry with the buzzards. only exception is that our rivalry with the buzzards is a "bitter" rivalry, but none of our other rivalries are "bitter" including wssu.
imo, over the years, our biggest "football" rivalries have been the buzzards, the sheep, scsu, and howard (in that order). but i don't consider the buzzards rivalry any more intense than our rivalry with the sheep, just that the buzzards rivalry is "bitter" and comes with a lot of "hateration" from both sides...
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Post by aggiestats on Jun 18, 2024 13:50:14 GMT -5
We can't afford buyouts, our basketball program is proof of that. Give the man time to build the program. How does the basketball program prove we can't afford buyouts? I agree on the patience comment. Before our current basketball coach, we basically promoted assistants while still paying the previous guy. We never had the money to fire a guy and do a real search.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 18, 2024 13:54:44 GMT -5
How does the basketball program prove we can't afford buyouts? I agree on the patience comment. Before our current basketball coach, we basically promoted assistants while still paying the previous guy. We never had the money to fire a guy and do a real search. i never thought of it that way, but it makes sense. you might be onto something...
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 18, 2024 16:19:48 GMT -5
How does the basketball program prove we can't afford buyouts? I agree on the patience comment. Before our current basketball coach, we basically promoted assistants while still paying the previous guy. We never had the money to fire a guy and do a real search. I thought we did fire or replace our last 2 MBB coaches before their contract expired (Shumpert was an interim coach so he doesn't count). They may have voided their contract to where we did not need to pay the remainder of their contract, therefore it may have been by choice that we promoted assistants to the HC job and not money.
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 18, 2024 16:30:20 GMT -5
Before our current basketball coach, we basically promoted assistants while still paying the previous guy. We never had the money to fire a guy and do a real search. I thought we did fire or replace our last 2 MBB coaches before their contract expired (Shumpert was an interim coach so he doesn't count). They may have voided their contract to where we did not need to pay the remainder of their contract, therefore it may have been by choice that we promoted assistants to the HC job and not money. Plus we did an extensive search to replace Coach Jones.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 18, 2024 17:00:02 GMT -5
Before our current basketball coach, we basically promoted assistants while still paying the previous guy. We never had the money to fire a guy and do a real search. I thought we did fire or replace our last 2 MBB coaches before their contract expired (Shumpert was an interim coach so he doesn't count). They may have voided their contract to where we did not need to pay the remainder of their contract, therefore it may have been by choice that we promoted assistants to the HC job and not money. not speaking for aggiestats, but i think aggiestats is saying that joyner was an assistant on cy alexander's staff and he was promoted to head coach when coach alexander retired/resigned. then, coach jones was an assistant on joyner's staff and then he was promoted to head coach when coach joyner was not retained. i could be mistaken, but i don't think joyner got paid as much as alexander was paid annually and i don't think jones was paid as much as joyner was paid annually. that saves money if both alexander and joyner's contracts were paid out, assuming that the new assistants of joyner and jones made less than they did as assistants...
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