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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 4, 2024 16:56:07 GMT -5
We need quality back up guard for Dorsey from the transfer portal.....a super quick point guard is on my wish list. Glad that Bracone and Tucker are coming back! The exact I and coaches made about Levossie, Sean Kelly, & even Nyah being out. There was no backup to even remotely take care of the hall while Jordyn takes a breather. And by March, that catches up to a team actually, i think it caught to dorsey and bracone towards the end of the season. those two probably logged too many minutes during most of the season, so by the end of the season they were physically burned out. if so, that would definitely explain why bracone's 3 point shot was not falling towards the end of the season, nor was dorsey's. so yes, "quality" backups are very important. otherwise, towards the end of the season you stand the chance of having burned out your starters... |
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 17:04:09 GMT -5
didn't the players who entered the portal still have a year of eligibility left? so doesn't that mean that their scholarships will be "freed up" and coach rob could use them to sign new recruits? so shouldn't that free up at least 2 or 3 scholarships? I'm counting two scholarships available, currently. I was wondering also how many scholarships Coach Rob had to recruit this season. |
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Apr 4, 2024 17:05:29 GMT -5
The exact I and coaches made about Levossie, Sean Kelly, & even Nyah being out. There was no backup to even remotely take care of the hall while Jordyn takes a breather. And by March, that catches up to a team actually, i think it caught to dorsey and bracone towards the end of the season. those two probably logged too many minutes during most of the season, so by the end of the season they were physically burned out. if so, that would definitely explain why bracone's 3 point shot was not falling towards the end of the season, nor was dorsey's. It did, like I’ve said before. Every backup guard becomes unavailable early in the season and leaves a ton of weight on the shoulders of Maleia & Jordyn for shooting & playmaking for the entire game. Levossie & Sean Kelly were supposed to be able to come in relieve the stress by managing the game while the starters sat. I asked a coach a few weeks ago if they considered the team “healthy” and they cut me off before I could even finish the question saying absolutely not |
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 18:11:38 GMT -5
If Bracone, Tucker, and Dorsey were worn out near the end of the season due to lack of conditioning or not adequate backups, then the blame has to fall on either the coach, players, or both. All 3 of these players logged around 33 min/gm. This is high but typical for stars or main contributors on a team.
Let's stop making excuses. They needed to play better down the stretch. This should have not been a surprise to some that they would be required to play many minutes near the end of the season or in tournament play. Player rotation is tighten during those periods.
Look at minutes logged by some star players from other teams regardless of classification. Some of these teams have a short bench and was not fully healthy. These teams played in tough conferences, competed for conference championship, played similar number of games, played in March tournament, etc.
USC
JuJu - 35
Forbes - 34
Padilla - 31
IOWA
Caitlin - 34
Martin. - 28
Marshall - 29
LSU
Reese - 31
Flaujae - 32
Morrow - 33
Van Lith - 31
UCONN
Page - 32
Edwards- 30
Muhl- 32
Shade - 31
Arnold - 30
NOTRE DAME
Hidalgo - 36
Citron - 36
Westbeld - 33
Dewolfe - 30
My point being work on your game to get better and get in shape, because A&T is not playing under any special circumstances. Our coach is not coaching under any unique circumstances. We should be prepared to play deep into March or early April. Period. We are capable of doing this.
By the way TROY had 3 players averaging about 29 min/gm and 1 averaging 25 and another averaging 24.
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Post by saabman on Apr 4, 2024 18:52:36 GMT -5
If Bracone, Tucker, and Dorsey were worn out near the end of the season due to lack of conditioning or not adequate backups, then the blame has to fall on either the coach, players, or both. All 3 of these players logged around 33 min/gm. This is high but typical for stars or main contributors on a team. Let's stop making excuses. They needed to play better down the stretch. This should have not been a surprise to some that they would be required to play many minutes near the end of the season or in tournament play. Player rotation is tighten during those periods. Look at minutes logged by some star players from other teams regardless of classification. Some of these teams have a short bench and was not fully healthy. These teams played in tough conferences, competed for conference championship, played similar number of games, played in March tournament, etc. USC JuJu - 35 Forbes - 34 Padilla - 31 IOWA Caitlin - 34 Martin. - 28 Marshall - 29 LSU Reese - 31 Flaujae - 32 Morrow - 33 Van Lith - 31 UCONN Page - 32 Edwards- 30 Muhl- 32 Shade - 31 Arnold - 30 NOTRE DAME Hidalgo - 36 Citron - 36 Westbeld - 33 Dewolfe - 30 My point being work on your game to get better and get in shape, because A&T is not playing under any special circumstances. Our coach is not coaching under any unique circumstances. We should be prepared to play deep into March or early April. Period. We are capable of doing this. By the way TROY had 3 players averaging about 29 min/gm and 1 averaging 25 and another averaging 24. You also have to factor in the number of unnecessary mistakes that our team made in crucial situations. As I stated before any team has to play to their strength and a&t's strength was inside the paint. The paint got us back into the game and if it wasn't for the mistake the game would have been closer if not winnable, which it was winnable. Yes we do need to be a better three-point shooting team but for me what killed us was the unnecessary turnovers that were made going down the stretch. Personally we beat ourselves. You can't make four turnovers in a row in stretch time when the game is close. Do we still need added pieces yes but even with the added pieces you can't continue to beat yourself with unforced turnovers. Even with tired legs that should not affect your decision making if anything it should make you more cautious when it comes to the security of the ball. I agree with PA on this ,having played at this level . One of the first things you the athlete prepare your body and yourself for is the grind both mentally and physically . That is why I always bring up the mental side of the games because tied legs that's just an excuse, at least from my perspective. And if they are getting tired they are not preparing their self in the off season so that is mostly on the player and not the coach. |
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 19:35:54 GMT -5
Yes Saabman, every college basketball program I have knowledge about spends the 1st two months of the semester on strength and conditioning with no learning of plays. Then in October, the coach is working with the team on offense and defense plays,sets,etc. Non-conference games in November are tune-ups because the team has only been truly coached for 1 month.
Now if you want to add the that the other schools have better training facilities and nutritional resources, I can agree that can give you a slight edge. Mental and physical preparation is huge especially in the offseason. Some players go home over the summer and do nothing, while others hire personal trainers, another group of players train at the school over the summer. Bottom line is you must prepare for the grind.
The other development and training posted by folks here, I have no issue with. They are good observations. As a former select coach, I don't like excuses on why you are not in shape. As the coach, I can get you in shape if you are committed. That is why I put some of the blame on the coach. Injuries happen so I need people ready to step up. What is that phrase? Stay ready instead of get ready.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 4, 2024 19:47:11 GMT -5
If Bracone, Tucker, and Dorsey were worn out near the end of the season due to lack of conditioning or not adequate backups, then the blame has to fall on either the coach, players, or both. All 3 of these players logged around 33 min/gm. This is high but typical for stars or main contributors on a team. Let's stop making excuses. They needed to play better down the stretch. This should have not been a surprise to some that they would be required to play many minutes near the end of the season or in tournament play. Player rotation is tighten during those periods. Look at minutes logged by some star players from other teams regardless of classification. Some of these teams have a short bench and was not fully healthy. These teams played in tough conferences, competed for conference championship, played similar number of games, played in March tournament, etc. USC JuJu - 35 Forbes - 34 Padilla - 31 IOWA Caitlin - 34 Martin. - 28 Marshall - 29 LSU Reese - 31 Flaujae - 32 Morrow - 33 Van Lith - 31 UCONN Page - 32 Edwards- 30 Muhl- 32 Shade - 31 Arnold - 30 NOTRE DAME Hidalgo - 36 Citron - 36 Westbeld - 33 Dewolfe - 30 My point being work on your game to get better and get in shape, because A&T is not playing under any special circumstances. Our coach is not coaching under any unique circumstances. We should be prepared to play deep into March or early April. Period. We are capable of doing this. By the way TROY had 3 players averaging about 29 min/gm and 1 averaging 25 and another averaging 24. i don't think anybody stated "for sure" that bracone and dorsey were burned out, certainly not me. i was "speculating" that its a possibility, but i definitely didn't say it was a "sure thing". sometimes you read what's in your own head into other people's posts instead of reading "exactly" what another poster says... |
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Post by Maxell on Apr 4, 2024 21:28:12 GMT -5
Sooooo....
Add this recruiting class:
Elliott Jessup 6'0 W/F NC
Eva Andrews 5'10 SG NJ
Tamia Darden 5'9 SG NC
Amber Howard 6'1 W PA
Rachel Griffin 6'3 W TN
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 21:36:22 GMT -5
If Bracone, Tucker, and Dorsey were worn out near the end of the season due to lack of conditioning or not adequate backups, then the blame has to fall on either the coach, players, or both. All 3 of these players logged around 33 min/gm. This is high but typical for stars or main contributors on a team. Let's stop making excuses. They needed to play better down the stretch. This should have not been a surprise to some that they would be required to play many minutes near the end of the season or in tournament play. Player rotation is tighten during those periods. Look at minutes logged by some star players from other teams regardless of classification. Some of these teams have a short bench and was not fully healthy. These teams played in tough conferences, competed for conference championship, played similar number of games, played in March tournament, etc. USC JuJu - 35 Forbes - 34 Padilla - 31 IOWA Caitlin - 34 Martin. - 28 Marshall - 29 LSU Reese - 31 Flaujae - 32 Morrow - 33 Van Lith - 31 UCONN Page - 32 Edwards- 30 Muhl- 32 Shade - 31 Arnold - 30 NOTRE DAME Hidalgo - 36 Citron - 36 Westbeld - 33 Dewolfe - 30 My point being work on your game to get better and get in shape, because A&T is not playing under any special circumstances. Our coach is not coaching under any unique circumstances. We should be prepared to play deep into March or early April. Period. We are capable of doing this. By the way TROY had 3 players averaging about 29 min/gm and 1 averaging 25 and another averaging 24. i don't think anybody stated "for sure" that bracone and dorsey were burned out, certainly not me. i was "speculating" that its a possibility, but i definitely didn't say it was a "sure thing". sometimes you read what's in your own head into other people's posts instead of reading "exactly" what another poster says... Now on this specific post, I confess that I added more than what was posted because not being or getting in shape is a pet peeve with me. To be honest, I did not look to see who brought it up. All is good. |
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Post by babybandit on Apr 4, 2024 21:38:54 GMT -5
A quick recap of the potential 24/25 roster:
Jakieya Thompson
Talia Davis
Jordyn Dorsey
Nahndi Smith
Maleia Bracone
Paris Locke
D'Mya Tucker
Keona Curtis
Chaniya Clark
Mia Hardin
Raigan Lawrence
Eva Andrews
Tamia Darden
Rachel Griffin
Amber Howard
Elliott Jessup
I am sure it will change but this is from the available publish info. I count 16.
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 4, 2024 22:20:21 GMT -5
A quick recap of the potential 24/25 roster: Jakieya Thompson Talia Davis Jordyn Dorsey Nahndi Smith Maleia Bracone Paris Locke D'Mya Tucker Keona Curtis Chaniya Clark Mia Hardin Raigan Lawrence Eva Andrews Tamia Darden Rachel Griffin Amber Howard Elliott Jessup I am sure it will change but this is from the available publish info. I count 16. I'm interested to what this year's Freshmen (Thompson & Lawrence) have. |
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Post by Maxell on Apr 4, 2024 22:30:29 GMT -5
Who will transform their game this summer(like Dorsey did this year)?
I think it will be Clark. Last summer her body, this summer her game.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Apr 4, 2024 22:52:24 GMT -5
Well what happens when you can only play seven players? Then you lose a major player in your third game to an injury. Now you are playing six. They get tired and start to lose confidence in their main playing tool. Shooting!! Curtis and Smith are two players waiting to make a quick turnover and head back to the bench. If you plan to win, playing shorthanded is not an ideal situation to be in. Mental and physical fatigue can result in making costly mistakes at critical times in a game. Coach needs
to add two to three players that have good skills that can be rotated in without losing good play. Hopefully, they are tall
and over 6'2 with no body fat and can run the floor.
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 23:00:15 GMT -5
A quick recap of the potential 24/25 roster: Jakieya Thompson Talia Davis Jordyn Dorsey Nahndi Smith Maleia Bracone Paris Locke D'Mya Tucker Keona Curtis Chaniya Clark Mia Hardin Raigan Lawrence Eva Andrews Tamia Darden Rachel Griffin Amber Howard Elliott Jessup I am sure it will change but this is from the available publish info. I count 16. Which of these players are walk-ons? All 16 can't be on scholarship. |
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Post by saabman on Apr 5, 2024 9:00:34 GMT -5
A quick recap of the potential 24/25 roster: Jakieya Thompson Talia Davis Jordyn Dorsey Nahndi Smith Maleia Bracone Paris Locke D'Mya Tucker Keona Curtis Chaniya Clark Mia Hardin Raigan Lawrence Eva Andrews Tamia Darden Rachel Griffin Amber Howard Elliott Jessup I am sure it will change but this is from the available publish info. I count 16. Which of these players are walk-ons? All 16 can't be on scholarship. I have never known coach Rob to announce any of his players as being a walk-on or preferred walk on. He keeps his player situation close to the vest. |
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