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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 16, 2024 18:39:58 GMT -5
the refs probably didn't see it cuz they were probably too busy transitioning to the other end of the court. we ref's are "human", we sometimes make mistakes or simply don't see everything all the time. How did the refs not see it when the ballhandler almost ran into the extra guy on the court? He had to slow down abruptly or else it would have been a collision. Surely at least one of the refs was watching the guy dribbling the ball. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 16, 2024 18:57:33 GMT -5
the refs probably didn't see it cuz they were probably too busy transitioning to the other end of the court. we ref's are "human", we sometimes make mistakes or simply don't see everything all the time. How did the refs not see it when the ballhandler almost ran into the extra guy on the court? He had to slow down abruptly or else it would have been a collision. Surely at least one of the refs was watching the guy dribbling the ball. i didn't notice it either, albeit i wasn't in "referee mode" at the time. i recorded the game on my dvr, i'll play it back later to take a first hand look at it. not to make excuses for the ref's, but when there's only a few seconds left on the clock and the ball is "live", you're not thinking about how many players are on the court. you're more concerned with getting your azz down the court as fast as possible so that you'll be "in position" to make any critical calls (if necessary) on the other end. i don't know how obvious it was that an extra player was on the court, but i didn't notice it when i watched the game for the first time. i'll take a look at it again, maybe that way i can better understand why the call was missed. because i didn't notice it, i'm taking your word that an extra hampton player was on the court which indeed is a "violation", even in high school... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 16, 2024 19:41:20 GMT -5
the refs probably didn't see it cuz they were probably too busy transitioning to the other end of the court. we ref's are "human", we sometimes make mistakes or simply don't see everything all the time. How did the refs not see it when the ballhandler almost ran into the extra guy on the court? He had to slow down abruptly or else it would have been a collision. Surely at least one of the refs was watching the guy dribbling the ball. ok, just watched the replay and i can see why the ref's may have not noticed the hampton player(s) who were on the court. in that situation, all 3 ref's had what we call a "primary coverage area". meaning, each individual ref has a "primary coverage area" to observe. the ref who administered the throw-in had his "back" to the hampton bench, his main job at this point of the game was to verify that the inbounder releases the ball within 5 seconds and his "primary coverage area" is the first 1/3 of the court which is where the violation occurred. well, that ref had his back turned to the hampton bench during the throw-in. once the ball has been inbounded, his job is now to cover the first 1/3 of the court which included the "ball handler". so he should've made the call but missed it because the hampton bench had pulled their guys off the court by then where it wasn't as obvious. the 2nd ref's "primary coverage area" is the 2nd third of the court, so he shouldn't even be looking at hampton's bench. and the 3rd ref's "primary coverage area" is the last third of the court (where shell scored), so clearly hampton's bench is way out of his "primary coverage area". it was the job of the ref who administered the throw-in to observe any extra players that came onto the court. but i can understand his "mindset" at that time and i'm pretty sure his mindset wasn't on how many players were on the court. he had his back to the hampton bench (which was the correct position) to verify the thrower releases the ball within 5 seconds. by the time that ref faced down court, hampton had already pulled their players (more than one was briefly on the court) off the court and "i think" that ref only saw that part. not making excuses for that ref cuz clearly it was his job to have picked up that violation. just that i understand why he missed it. fortunately, his oversight did not cost us the game. but i'll guarantee you that he heard from his commissioner(s) about that oversight... |
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Post by bluehaze on Jan 16, 2024 19:47:29 GMT -5
It looked like we got a makeup call, because on the last play of the game they set a screen on the baseline and our player defending the inbound pass ran completely through it.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 16, 2024 20:32:57 GMT -5
It looked like we got a makeup call, because on the last play of the game they set a screen on the baseline and our player defending the inbound pass ran completely through it. i just replayed that part of the game too but i don't think the ref's took that as a makeup call. you're correct that the hampton player set a legal screen, but fortunately murphy was "smart" enough not to run him over. the hampton player clearly "flopped" and the ref saw that and "rightfully" didn't make a call. hampton's guy "flopped", that's why that call wasn't made. i replayed it 3 times and "clearly" murphy's contact was minimal cuz murphy saw him there and completely let up. an objective ref ain't gone make that call, he was right on top of it and i'm sure he saw that it was a "flop". the ref who administered that throw-in said something to murphy before the throw-in. don't know what he said to murphy, but it was almost as if he warned murphy that a screen would come. of course that's inappropriate conduct for a ref to do, so he probably told him something else. i know when i administer a throw-in, sometimes i'll warn the defender that no part of his body (i.e., arm, leg, hand, etc.) can go beyond the baseline imaginary boundary plane. maybe that's what he told murphy... |
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Post by bluehaze on Jan 16, 2024 21:33:11 GMT -5
I didn’t record it and only watched it live. I just saw the player fall and was hoping they didn’t make the call.
Glad it was a flop, because I would hate to lose a game that way.
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Post by DECKS on Jan 16, 2024 22:57:30 GMT -5
Didn't anyone tell Hampton pep band which network they were on? Lol, they were playing the espn theme music. 😃
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Post by aggierattler on Jan 16, 2024 23:31:11 GMT -5
Didn't anyone tell Hampton pep band which network they were on? Lol, they were playing the espn theme music. 😃 I noticed that, too! |
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Jan 17, 2024 12:55:14 GMT -5
Good game, Aggies.
I have COVID, so I've been low-key.
Although I still feel that #7 shoots waaay too much, he and #3 have great chemistry, being JuCo backcourt mates.
We needed more scoring from Murphy in the paint, but we're a different team with him.
Thanos was solid. I'd like to see him in the weight room, though.
We have to figure something out with Robinson. He's Harry Houdini in the 2nd half...
I'm cautious. Remember...HU has lost 8 consecutive. Let's see what Thursday night v. Northeastern holds.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 17, 2024 14:40:53 GMT -5
I didn’t record it and only watched it live. I just saw the player fall and was hoping they didn’t make the call. Glad it was a flop, because I would hate to lose a game that way. i watched murphy during a social media interview and dude was rather "articulate" which kinda surprised me cuz that wasn't the first impression of him that i got before i actually heard him speak. he's a lot "smarter" than he looks, he had a very good "vocabulary". based on what i saw, if you ever hear him speak publicly, he "will not" embarrass our university. the reason i brought that up is because murphy was "smart enuf" to avoid that "potential" charging call whereas most players might've completely "bowled over" the hampton screener without even giving thought to the consequences. murphy is not a very good scorer for us, but he's still extremely "valuable" to this team. he plays great defense, protects the paint extremely well, and rebounds for us. man, imma tell ya. i can't help but luv the guys on this year's team. they play "team ball" instead of "street ball" and most importantly, they "defend". this team is gonna keep getting better because they're simply "learning each other" and the coaches this season. i honestly believe that this team will be able to compete against the top teams in the conference next season once qua brown and felton join the team. which means coach ross can concentrate on landing a couple of "heavy hitters" during the recruiting season cuz most of the pieces he needs are already in place for next season. the entire team returns next season except robinson (assuming no one bounces). that means we won't need very much time to establish a "team identity" next season cuz everybody will already be familiar with everybody. btw, that last second shot that hampton made against us was extremely "well defended" by our guy, kellman-nicholes. kellman-nicholes did "everything right" defensively, he stayed in front of hampton's best one-on-one scorer (without fouling), he made hampton's guy take a very "difficult" fade away shot, and he had a hand in his face. couldn't have played better defense than that except if he had blocked the shot. and, kellman-nicholes happens to only be a "true freshman" who scored 10pts and had 4 boards in that game. i'm tellin' ya, this team's future is "bright"... |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 17, 2024 17:03:38 GMT -5
i watched murphy during a social media interview and dude was rather "articulate" which kinda surprised me cuz that wasn't the first impression of him that i got before i actually heard him speak. he's a lot "smarter" than he looks Sir, there's gotta be a better way you can phrase that. |
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Post by bluehaze on Jan 17, 2024 17:22:32 GMT -5
the entire team returns next season except robinson (assuming no one bounces). that means we won't need very much time to establish a "team identity" next season cuz everybody will already be familiar with everybody. That’s going to be the key. With the portal and NIL it’s going to be extremely hard keeping everyone here. It deserves its own topic, but an NIL collective for the basketball team could be a lot easier to fund than football. If FAMU can raise over $100k in a weekend, why can’t we raise $120k a year for the men’s and women’s teams? That’s $10k per scholarship athlete. Wouldn’t stop someone hell bent on going to a major school, but may help those on the fence. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 17, 2024 18:15:59 GMT -5
i watched murphy during a social media interview and dude was rather "articulate" which kinda surprised me cuz that wasn't the first impression of him that i got before i actually heard him speak. he's a lot "smarter" than he looks Sir, there's gotta be a better way you can phrase that. perhaps i could've worded it better, but i was actually "complementing" the guy. he's very well spoken but for some reason, i don't always expect that from most 6'9" dudes who have a beard. maybe it was the beard that threw me off, but i luv that guy. he's my kinda player, not because he's articulate, but because of how he plays. what i read about him prior to the season is 100% true relative to his style of play... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 17, 2024 18:25:14 GMT -5
the entire team returns next season except robinson (assuming no one bounces). that means we won't need very much time to establish a "team identity" next season cuz everybody will already be familiar with everybody. That’s going to be the key. With the portal and NIL it’s going to be extremely hard keeping everyone here. It deserves its own topic, but an NIL collective for the basketball team could be a lot easier to fund than football. If FAMU can raise over $100k in a weekend, why can’t we raise $120k a year for the men’s and women’s teams? That’s $10k per scholarship athlete. Wouldn’t stop someone hell bent on going to a major school, but may help those on the fence. honestly, i don't expect any of our mbb players to transfer. at the fcs level, i think nil is completely "over rated". i think nil has a major impact at the bcs level, but not the fcs level. our best mbb players so far this season has been glasper and shell, and i don't see either of them transferring cuz they're already in a very good "situation" for themselves at a&t and i'm sure they know that the team is gonna be much better next season. if robinson had more eligibility left, i think he would've considered transferring. but i honestly don't see anybody else on our mbb team bouncing unless its someone like a kyle dukes that doesn't get major playing time. anybody outside our top 7 is very "replaceable"... |
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Post by The Professor on Jan 17, 2024 19:09:00 GMT -5
Side note. I went to the Women’s Game and one of the Staff asked me “where are the Aggies “? I said that I thought that the new Conf affiliation may have some people sour. I looked at the Mens game crowd shots and it needed more bodies. Point blank. We/ our Teams must win just to keep any semblance of a cash cow program. I know that we are not NSU or Howard to them but Man… Should have asked where the Pirates are lol The mens game definitely had more Aggies than the womens. Lastly, we are still doing a terrible job in being proactive in the marketing. We should be promoting games at least 5 days out. People know when the games are. They just are still in their feelings |
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