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Post by westcoastaggie on Jan 20, 2024 17:45:34 GMT -5
I don't think that is particularly strange. He is the President of the University of North Carolina System, after all. My question would be is Peter Hans also serving on the NCCU and WSSU search committees ... or just A&T's? I think so but that doesn’t matter. Peter Hans has the final say to who will be chancellor. |
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Post by jbrob on Jan 20, 2024 17:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by bseballaggie on Jan 21, 2024 7:23:28 GMT -5
You guys are arguing a mute point. James Baldwin stated and I quote "It is easier to raise strong black boys than it is to fix broken men". Please, use your intelligence to make suggestions, about how we raise strong black males, and provide role models in the community to offset missing fathers. Your finger-pointing and stating the obvious changes nothing, what do you have to offer to change this, if you aren't community-minded, you should say nothing. There are as many studies to show and prove that the structure is failing black and brown kids. What's failing black and brown boys are people like you, always making excuses and blaming others. It's about accountability and you are allergic to it. You have all the receipts on Black issues, and great at finger-pointing. Use your big brain to help your people, I asked you for one idea or thing that can be done to enhance the lives of young black males and their life journey. Its the same question that my white minds have asked me. When we discuss the issues, they point to the systemic structure and it's history of racism and superiority, the breakdown of the psychological mind of black men and women and the power of programming through education. You have chosen to war with me from the statement of a preference to a black or brown chancellor. You sir are toxic, self-hate a thing too, or is it that you hear yourself, look in the mirror and feel enlarged? It appears that you have made it, but not without some damage. It is telling how your fight for a white chancellor's right to be the face of a black institution, is greater than providing an assist to a young black male who is disadvantaged, someone who didn't choose their circumstance. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 21, 2024 7:42:52 GMT -5
What's failing black and brown boys are people like you, always making excuses and blaming others. It's about accountability and you are allergic to it. You have all the receipts on Black issues, and great at finger-pointing. Use your big brain to help your people, I asked you for one idea or thing that can be done to enhance the lives of young black males and their life journey. Its the same question that my white minds have asked me. When we discuss the issues, they point to the systemic structure and it's history of racism and superiority, the breakdown of the psychological mind of black men and women and the power of programming through education. You have chosen to war with me from the statement of a preference to a black or brown chancellor. You sir are toxic, self-hate a thing too, or is it that you hear yourself, look in the mirror and feel enlarged? It appears that you have made it, but not without some damage. It is telling how your fight for a white chancellor's right to be the face of a black institution, is greater than providing an assist to a young black male who is disadvantaged, someone who didn't choose their circumstance. Excuses are tools of incompetence used to build monuments of nothingness, there are a lot of monuments being built by people like you 🤣🤣🤣. The people you talk about make money and a living off of fear mongering, i see they have a follower. I have friends that graduated from A&T that were making $200K at age 35... racism has not prevented then from climbing the ladder. At age 40 they make $300K before bonuses. You call a discussion a war? 🤣🤣🤣 No one is dying. You mentor these kids, on second thought don't, last thing that is needed is another generation of excuse makers, allergic to accountability and being in mental bondage by the past. Trying to shame adults does not work. I do not believe in discrimination and nor can I sit idle while you trying to infect others with this mindset or normalize it. Wrong is wrong, no room for hypocrisy. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 21, 2024 11:20:00 GMT -5
I do not believe in discrimination and nor can I sit idle while you trying to infect others with this mindset or normalize it. Wrong is wrong, no room for hypocrisy. Unless, of course, we are talking about the proven discrimination against HBCUs. Then you don't care about it. How's that for hypocrisy? |
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 21, 2024 11:30:44 GMT -5
I do not believe in discrimination and nor can I sit idle while you trying to infect others with this mindset or normalize it. Wrong is wrong, no room for hypocrisy. Unless, of course, we are talking about the proven discrimination against HBCUs. Then you don't care about it. How's that for hypocrisy? So the state decided to invest money in another state funded institution. How can the state discriminate against itself? A&T belongs to the state not black people. Maybe the state thought it was better to invest in schools where the kids have a higher graduation and retention rate. Why invest extra money in an institution where the kids will not graduate at the rate of other state institutions. It's called spending tax dollars wisely. Cry me a river cry me a river... |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 21, 2024 11:41:06 GMT -5
So the state decided to invest money in another state funded institution. How can the state discriminate against itself? A&T belongs to the state not black people. Maybe the state thought it was better to invest in schools where the kids have a higher graduation and retention rate. Why invest extra money in an institution where the kids will not graduate at the rate of other state institutions. It's called spending tax dollars wisely. Cry me a river cry me a river... The mental gymnastics required to defend institutional racism and proven discrimination is amazing. SMH. I can't wait to hear your theory of how February One was totally unnecessary and the A&T Four could have probably invented DoorDash if they weren't complaining so much. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 21, 2024 11:48:00 GMT -5
So the state decided to invest money in another state funded institution. How can the state discriminate against itself? A&T belongs to the state not black people. Maybe the state thought it was better to invest in schools where the kids have a higher graduation and retention rate. Why invest extra money in an institution where the kids will not graduate at the rate of other state institutions. It's called spending tax dollars wisely. Cry me a river cry me a river... The mental gymnastics required to defend institutional racism and proven discrimination is amazing. SMH. I can't wait to hear your theory of how February One was totally unnecessary and the A&T Four could have probably invented DoorDash if they weren't complaining so much. Cry me a river . I stand by my statement. The victim Olympics on this thread 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by ATLaggie on Jan 21, 2024 12:06:30 GMT -5
Anyone else feel the need to make this a private thread?
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Post by AggieDad17 on Jan 21, 2024 12:32:27 GMT -5
Anyone else feel the need to make this a private thread? I’m sure a white or Asian or whatever Chancellor would value their job, the school, and reputation enough to get the most funding and most positive growth for the institution and its students. Private or public thread, we’re already 7 pages deep. What or who do we expect to change? I respect everyone’s position and thank everyone for being willing to share on here without devolving (too much) into ugliness. Seems like now it’s just a bit off-topic. The first time I stepped foot on campus (during a recruiting visit) I wanted to see the Aggie 4 statue before anything else. Get a picture of it. It’s a beautiful story that is sadly not shared enough on a broader scale. That history played a huge role in deciding on A&T vs other schools, including power 5. There is no doubt that history is full of injustices. There is no doubt that injustices occur daily. Everyone is doing the living, everyone is doing the dying. What we do with ourselves in that time is between us and our faith or philosophy of choice. I reject discrimination at all levels. Period. There’s no more I need to say on this thread that would be more clear than that. There are people that look like me and look different than me who feel the same. I prefer to give them the opportunity to demonstrate benevolence and positive leadership. My feelings on this will remain consistent publicly or privately. Meanwhile….great day for Aggie sports yesterday! |
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 21, 2024 12:34:52 GMT -5
Should be deleted
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 21, 2024 12:40:43 GMT -5
This is the correct board for these type of discussions. As long as everyone continues to follows the forum rules, folks are allowed to share their opinion.
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Post by bseballaggie on Jan 22, 2024 9:58:17 GMT -5
Do not close this thread, much of my rhetoric was triggers to explore the minds of this black community, with the ultimate goal of creating a discourse in the black community that benefits the future growth, and support of future black male leadership from a root level. The perceptions in here reflect their circles, and less of their community, where the majority of young black males live. and struggle if you can call them communities. Even more glaring is the lack of volunteer action of support. How does this tie back into the selection of a white mind to lead an institution of historically marginalized people, and stand strong and committed to the pursuit of building a foundation of strong black leaders families and communities? In fact, without strong black male leaders, and families there is no black community only cells of black people coming together. HBCU’s and GHOE’s our ultimate goal is the upliftment and empowerment of our people, particularly our young Black males who are navigating a world filled with systemic challenges and historical burdens.
Firstly, let us acknowledge that AGGIE2039 has all the receipts that the journey of our young Black men is complex and requires a multifaceted approach. It is not merely about individual success stories, which are commendable, but also about addressing the systemic barriers that continue to block the progress of many. The success of some should not be used to negate the reality of the struggle that still exists for others.To tie this back into the title, The question has to be asked why do HBCU’s exist? HBCU’s have a unique historical and cultural significance. The successful leader, regardless of race, must deeply understand and respect this heritage and work to preserve and promote it. The leader must be committed to the principles of equality, justice, and the empowerment of historically marginalized communities. Actively work to advance these principles within the institution and in its broader educational mission engaging with and understanding the needs of the HBCU community, including students, faculty, alumni, and the wider African American community is crucial. The leader must build strong relationships and be responsive to this community. Leaders often serve as role models. It's important for young Black individuals to see themselves represented in positions of authority and success, which can inspire and empower them. That leader needs to share the cultural background and experiences of their community giving them a deeper understanding and empathy for the specific challenges faced by that community. Its multifaceted, Leadership plays a key role in preserving and promoting cultural heritage and identity, which is particularly crucial in communities that has faced historical oppression and marginalization. A HBCU must have continuous education about the history, struggles, and achievements of Black communities as a essential element. This includes educating leaders and community members about systemic racism and its impact. This in itself creates competition.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 22, 2024 10:00:45 GMT -5
Sir, you are entitled to your opinion ... but please try to use some paragraphs and line breaks when expressing those opinions.
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Post by bseballaggie on Jan 22, 2024 10:05:08 GMT -5
Sir, you are entitled to your opinion ... but please try to use some paragraphs and line breaks when expressing those opinions. My bad I was in a flow more concerned with my thoughts than punctuation. |
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