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Post by westcoastaggie on Oct 19, 2023 17:37:57 GMT -5
Because the legislation would've mandated schools go beyond NIL, such as scholarship protections for student athletes. The NCAA already has scholarship protection in place for student athletes. NIL is and outside contractual entity agreement between the student and the NIL provider and shouldn't have any effect on the services provided by the institution what so ever. The student is protected as long as he or she remains eligible and follows the performance rules and standards stipulated in his or her contractual scholarship agreement. You're sounding like the SEC right now, Saab. LOL Just know this Congressional legislation will go beyond NIL. To the extent, time will tell.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 20, 2023 6:46:49 GMT -5
HBCU Sports reached out to Cantwell’s office Thursday to get additional context on how the NIL bill talks would affect HBCUs.
“The NIL bill we tried to put together fell apart because it included a requirement that Division I schools provide a baseline of health, safety, and scholarship protections for college athletes,” Tricia Enright, a spokeswoman for Cantwell’s office, said in an email to HBCU Sports. “Not all Division I schools could afford that, notably HBCUs, so we were working on a model to fund those protections for all schools by requiring the athletic association to provide financial assistance.”
Wright further explained that the “SEC balked at this approach” and would not support a bill that would provide financial assistance to all schools
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I dont understand why its acceptable to take money from one person and give to another...
I am glad the SEC said "heck no"
If you can't afford D1 you shouldn't be there
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 20, 2023 7:11:58 GMT -5
I dont understand why its acceptable to take money from one person and give to another... But I guess you have no problem with conservative state governments taking money earmarked for HBCUs and giving it to PWIs? There is a reason why so many HBCUS are at a economic disadvantage and why we have all these billion dollar lawsuits.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Oct 20, 2023 7:13:44 GMT -5
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 20, 2023 7:15:13 GMT -5
I dont understand why its acceptable to take money from one person and give to another... But I guess you have no problem with conservative state governments taking money earmarked for HBCUs and giving it to PWIs? There is a reason why so many HBCUS are at a economic disadvantage and why we have all these billion dollar lawsuits. Honestly, I do not care...all schools are owned by the state...the state can close the schools whenever they want. Futhermore, there is nothing stopping alumni from donating to athletics programs. If alumni donated this would not be a problem. There is nothing stopping alumni from buying season tickets and attending games. I have friends that graduated from A&t and have never taken their kids to a basketball or football game. These same friends take multiple trips out of the country, so they do have money.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 20, 2023 7:15:27 GMT -5
I knew some form of a subsidy would be the only solution to bridge that resource gap.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 20, 2023 7:16:22 GMT -5
It is not the SECs job to subsidize athletics for other schools...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 20, 2023 7:17:25 GMT -5
But I guess you have no problem with conservative state governments taking money earmarked for HBCUs and giving it to PWIs? There is a reason why so many HBCUS are at a economic disadvantage and why we have all these billion dollar lawsuits. Honestly, I do not care...all schools are owned by the state...the state can close the schools whenever they want. So you don't care that your alma mater and other HBCUs were negatively impacted by documented, systemic racism. Got it.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Oct 20, 2023 7:17:58 GMT -5
Basically, the SEC and other P4 conferences want Congress to only legislate NIL, not get them into more of a revenue-sharing platform with the MEAC, SWAC, and other FCS Conferences.
However, many senators aren't going to go for just NIL Legislation. They'll want an Omnibus-type bill to regulate more items, like calling Student-Athletes employees.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Oct 20, 2023 7:18:41 GMT -5
It is not the SECs job to subsidize athletics for other schools... But they already do that to some degree with the CFP.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 20, 2023 7:19:32 GMT -5
Honestly, I do not care...all schools are owned by the state...the state can close the schools whenever they want. So you don't care that your alma mater and other HBCUs were negatively impacted by documented, systemic racism. Got it. You are correct, I do not care. Its about what are we doing to help ourselves... life isnt fair. Not attending games, not donating...we arent helping ourselves.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 20, 2023 7:20:49 GMT -5
It is not the SECs job to subsidize athletics for other schools... But they already do that to some degree with the CFP. So why should they spend more? At a certain point schools need to stand on their own two feet.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 20, 2023 7:45:48 GMT -5
At a certain point schools need to stand on their own two feet. After the state government have already cut those two feet from under them for decades with documented, systemic racism. That is your starting point for when you want things to suddenly be equal.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Oct 20, 2023 8:04:04 GMT -5
So you don't care that your alma mater and other HBCUs were negatively impacted by documented, systemic racism. Got it. You are correct, I do not care. Its about what are we doing to help ourselves... life isnt fair. Not attending games, not donating...we arent helping ourselves. It's way more to it than that. Especially in an environment where if you aren't in the P4, you're scraping the barrel when it comes to TV contracts (the largest "athletic department subsidy"). So what you're basically saying is that the Big 10 and SEC can control all of the TV money and leave us to fend for ourselves. But in reality, even the NFL has a sort of revenue sharing model that allows all teams to adequately fund what they got going on. And in an era where Student Athletes should be classified as employees, there needs to be a way for all these kids to benefit, not just those that are in the SEC. Because hey, a neck injury doesn't care what level of the game it happens on.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 20, 2023 9:52:35 GMT -5
You are correct, I do not care. Its about what are we doing to help ourselves... life isnt fair. Not attending games, not donating...we arent helping ourselves. It's way more to it than that. Especially in an environment where if you aren't in the P4, you're scraping the barrel when it comes to TV contracts (the largest "athletic department subsidy"). So what you're basically saying is that the Big 10 and SEC can control all of the TV money and leave us to fend for ourselves. But in reality, even the NFL has a sort of revenue sharing model that allows all teams to adequately fund what they got going on. And in an era where Student Athletes should be classified as employees, there needs to be a way for all these kids to benefit, not just those that are in the SEC. Because hey, a neck injury doesn't care what level of the game it happens on. That is not how this works... Would the NFL support a bill that would provide financial assistance to the CFL, XFL, USFL, arena leagues, and semi-pro football leagues? If schools cant afford D1 they shouldn't be D1, its and exclusive club. Im not going to lower my standards or way of life because someone else cant afford it.
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