jbrob
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Post by jbrob on Nov 24, 2023 18:18:33 GMT -5
NC A&T has made some bad decisions with the Men's Basketball program. We need some consistency. Mr Hilton made some poor character choices. I miss Jerry Eaves.
Men's Program
2003–2012 Jerry Eaves
2012–2016 Cy Alexander
2016–2020 Jay Joyner
2020-2022 Will Jones
Women's Program
2012 - present Terrell Robinson
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Nov 24, 2023 19:11:09 GMT -5
Damn, I don't miss Jerry Eaves at all. His winning record for 10 years was 99. What does that average out to?
The other basketball coaches you named are just as baaad. Will give Alexander a break but he was past his time.
AD Hilton hired all of these duds and that is why he should have been gone years ago.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 24, 2023 20:12:39 GMT -5
NC A&T has made some bad decisions with the Men's Basketball program. We need some consistency. Mr Hilton made some poor character choices. I miss Jerry Eaves. Men's Program 2003–2012 Jerry Eaves 2012–2016 Cy Alexander 2016–2020 Jay Joyner 2020-2022 Will Jones Women's Program 2012 - present Terrell Robinson You missed the most egregious decision: making Phillip Shumpert interim coach in 2022-23. |
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Post by bluehaze on Nov 24, 2023 20:38:52 GMT -5
With the exception of three blips, basketball has been bad for 25 years. And it’s a lot easier to have a competitive basketball team than football team. Norfolk is showing that right now.
This is a definite sore spot on Hilton’s resume.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 24, 2023 20:54:55 GMT -5
Jones was not a sore spot,he just had off the court issues that the AD didn't know of.
Alexander was the Chancellors guy
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 24, 2023 21:06:14 GMT -5
Jones was not a sore spot,he just had off the court issues that the AD didn't know of. I forget what the word was when he got fired, but I thought it was something about having illegal practices. Don't remember it being off the court stuff. |
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Post by jbrob on Nov 24, 2023 23:42:34 GMT -5
Jones was not a sore spot,he just had off the court issues that the AD didn't know of. Alexander was the Chancellors guy I don't think we did our due diligence with Coach Joyner and Coach Jones. |
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 25, 2023 4:18:41 GMT -5
Coach Jones was ok in certain things, but I felt he and his staff was untrustworthy and from how the players left so easily I believe they felt it as well.
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Post by jbrob on Nov 25, 2023 6:05:56 GMT -5
NC A&T has made some bad decisions with the Men's Basketball program. We need some consistency. Mr Hilton made some poor character choices. I miss Jerry Eaves. Men's Program 2003–2012 Jerry Eaves 2012–2016 Cy Alexander 2016–2020 Jay Joyner 2020-2022 Will Jones Women's Program 2012 - present Terrell Robinson You missed the most egregious decision: making Phillip Shumpert interim coach in 2022-23. When you dismiss your coach in August, Mr Hilton didn't have much choice. |
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Post by jbrob on Nov 25, 2023 6:20:03 GMT -5
With the exception of three blips, basketball has been bad for 25 years. And it’s a lot easier to have a competitive basketball team than football team. Norfolk is showing that right now. This is a definite sore spot on Hilton’s resume. True 1979–1993 Don Corbett 1993-94 Jeff Chapel, Sr 1994-1999 Roy Thomas 1999-2003 Curtis Hunter |
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 25, 2023 6:40:57 GMT -5
With the exception of three blips, basketball has been bad for 25 years. And it’s a lot easier to have a competitive basketball team than football team. Norfolk is showing that right now. This is a definite sore spot on Hilton’s resume. Then why do people today still claim that A&T is a basketball school? This is not directed at you. Anyone can chime in. I say that we are currently a football school albeit bad at it right now. I mentioned this last season but will repeat it again. The men's basketball team is going to have a hard time competing in the CAA because of the amount of money these basketball only schools in the CAA is pumping into their basketball program (players and coaches). To do well we can't afford to slip in recruiting not one single year and right now it is too early to determine if Coach Ross is the right hire to turn our MBB program around. On the other hand our WBB is in good shape because there is probably not that greater of a gap in coach's salaries (guessing) and we have a coach that is on equal par with the other coaches in the CAA when it comes to basketball coaching and developing skills. |
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Post by jbrob on Nov 25, 2023 6:53:50 GMT -5
With the exception of three blips, basketball has been bad for 25 years. And it’s a lot easier to have a competitive basketball team than football team. Norfolk is showing that right now. This is a definite sore spot on Hilton’s resume. Then why do people today still claim that A&T is a basketball school? This is not directed at you. Anyone can chime in. I say that we are currently a football school albeit bad at it right now. I mentioned this last season but will repeat it again. The men's basketball team is going to have a hard time competing in the CAA because of the amount of money these basketball only schools in the CAA is pumping into their basketball program (players and coaches). To do well we can't afford to slip in recruiting not one single year and right now it is too early to determine if Coach Ross is the right hire to turn our MBB program around. On the other hand our WBB is in good shape because there is probably not that greater of a gap in coach's salaries (guessing) and we have a coach that is on equal par with the other coaches in the CAA when it comes to basketball coaching and developing skills. We had so much success in the 70s and 80s. We had 10 twenty win seasons in those decades www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/north-carolina-at/ |
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 25, 2023 7:15:58 GMT -5
Then why do people today still claim that A&T is a basketball school? This is not directed at you. Anyone can chime in. I say that we are currently a football school albeit bad at it right now. I mentioned this last season but will repeat it again. The men's basketball team is going to have a hard time competing in the CAA because of the amount of money these basketball only schools in the CAA is pumping into their basketball program (players and coaches). To do well we can't afford to slip in recruiting not one single year and right now it is too early to determine if Coach Ross is the right hire to turn our MBB program around. On the other hand our WBB is in good shape because there is probably not that greater of a gap in coach's salaries (guessing) and we have a coach that is on equal par with the other coaches in the CAA when it comes to basketball coaching and developing skills. We had so much success in the 70s and 80s. We had 10 twenty win seasons in those decades www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/north-carolina-at/I know but you are bringing up memories that are 30 to 40 years old. We are no longer that school. If we drop those feelings then we can somewhat better understand A&T's decision in certain matters when it comes to supporting certain sport programs, especially financially and human resources. We are going to have trouble finding good coaches and keeping them if the mindset does not change. The same goes for recruiting and keeping talented players. If things don't get better, we may want to consider competing in the MEAC in certain sports and the CAA in others. I believe some schools already do this, but I don't believe in revenue sports. |
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Post by jbrob on Nov 25, 2023 7:59:01 GMT -5
I know but you are bringing up memories that are 30 to 40 years old. We are no longer that school. If you drop those feelings then you can somewhat better understand A&T's decision in certain matters when it comes to supporting certain sport programs, especially financially and human resources. We are going to have trouble finding good coaches and keeping them if the mindset does not change. The same goes for recruiting and keeping talented players. If things don't get better, we may want to consider competing in the MEAC in certain sports and the CAA in others. I believe some schools already do this, but I don't believe in revenue sports. I'm not too worried about being in the CAA. We will be able to compete. I hope our coaches are up to the task. Our administration has the mindset that HBCU coaches are not qualified. So we've hired coaches that may or may not be able to compete. Hopefully they are successful. |
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 25, 2023 8:15:42 GMT -5
I know but you are bringing up memories that are 30 to 40 years old. We are no longer that school. If we drop those feelings then we can somewhat better understand A&T's decision in certain matters when it comes to supporting certain sport programs, especially financially and human resources. We are going to have trouble finding good coaches and keeping them if the mindset does not change. The same goes for recruiting and keeping talented players. If things don't get better, we may want to consider competing in the MEAC in certain sports and the CAA in others. I believe some schools already do this, but I don't believe in revenue sports. I'm not too worried about being in the CAA. We will be able to compete. I hope our coaches are up to the task. Our administration has the mindset that HBCU coaches are not qualified. So we've hired coaches that may or may not be able to compete. Hopefully they are successful. I edited some of the "you" in my post to "we" because I was not referring to you specifically. Sorry. I don't quite understand your post. You state that we can compete in the CAA then later you say we may not be able to compete. Are you trying to say that the team has the player talent to compete but the coaches may not be able to out coach our opponents? |
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