oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 22, 2023 21:28:24 GMT -5
What he said…Wilmington is where I grew up…but Raleigh is now my home. The MEAC is where NCAT grew up, the CAA is now our home. OSA you will except it one day. i have no choice but to accept it, but that doesn't mean i have to like it and i "never" will... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 22, 2023 21:28:38 GMT -5
Some of you guys don't appreciate what Chancellor Martin had done for our University and the great position the University is for the future. Some are grading his 14 years as Chancellor based on the athletic conference we're in and not on the academic success he's orchestrated.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 22, 2023 21:30:37 GMT -5
completely, un-friggin' believable!! yep, he did the exact same thing at wssu. moved them to a new division and conference, and then "bounced". its "irresponsible" on his part to completely overhaul our athletics and move it to a pwc conference, and then "bounce". un-friggin' believable!! i'm numb. i've said all along that since he moved us to these pwc conferences that he needs to see it thru 'til the very end and now look at what happened? i mean, i swear, the man did an extremely good job while our chancellor and the only thing i disagreed with was his initiatives to move us out of the meac. however, you won't get an argument from me that he didn't do an outstanding job as our chancellor, indeed he did except for leaving the meac. now i have to get down on my knees and pray that whoever replaces him will move us back "home" to the meac where we belong... We. Are. Not. Rejoining. The. MEAC. That ship sailed in 2022 when we were invited back but opted for our CAA invite instead. Also we're not going to raise over $90 million dollars to improve our facilities, building a new Convocation Center to rejoin the MEAC. you don't know that. i mean, aren't you the same person who stated that folks predicted that a&t would go 0-11 last season but you have no evidence that it ever happened? so why should anybody believe what you say? are you on the bot? i think not... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards
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Post by The Professor on Sept 22, 2023 21:37:36 GMT -5
Some of you guys don't appreciate what Chancellor Martin had done for our University and the great position the University is for the future. Some are grading his 14 years as Chancellor based on the athletic conference we're in and not on the academic success he's orchestrated. Sadly , its people base the success of A&T on winning football titles.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 22, 2023 22:56:12 GMT -5
We. Are. Not. Rejoining. The. MEAC. That ship sailed in 2022 when we were invited back but opted for our CAA invite instead. Also we're not going to raise over $90 million dollars to improve our facilities, building a new Convocation Center to rejoin the MEAC. you don't know that. i mean, aren't you the same person who stated that folks predicted that a&t would go 0-11 last season but you have no evidence that it ever happened? so why should anybody believe what you say? are you on the bot? i think not... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards You do realize that there's more to this than BDV, right? And It's not up to me to prove anything to you sir. And even if I did, your butt is so damn jaded about us even leaving the MEAC and ever believing an HBCU could ever significantly close it's "athletics wealth gap", it's absolutely pointless speaking to you about this otherwise.
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Sept 22, 2023 23:27:49 GMT -5
Chile, if we do/did all this fundraising, facilities upgrades, conference realignment, hiring and firing JUST to go back to the MEAC...then WTF are we doing here?
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Sept 23, 2023 8:34:10 GMT -5
Chile, if we do/did all this fundraising, facilities upgrades, conference realignment, hiring and firing JUST to go back to the MEAC...then WTF are we doing here? I don't want to see this thread "devolve" into another Aggie fan dust up over conference realignment. That said, you hit the nail right on the head. The things we are doing in our athletics department, academic departments, research, etc. for the most part are not being duplicated by other MEAC schools. We came to a crossroads like this over 50 years ago when NCAT left the CIAA and formed the MEAC. People had strong feelings then as well. Now after almost 50 years in the MEAC administrators came to the conclusion that it was time to move on. Think about it...some of the same schools that were in the CIAA when we left are still there now....after 50 years, some of the same schools that were in the MEAC are still there now. I'm not a WSSU insider and I have no idea what "planning" took place before their move to the MEAC, but I do know they along with a few others in the CIAA should have moved up years ago.
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Post by A&T-roy on Sept 23, 2023 10:27:35 GMT -5
Athletically we are screwed. This is WSSU going D1 all over again. Um, how you know the next person ain't gonna be as good or BETTER than Dr. Martin? Is the sky ALWAYS falling for you?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 23, 2023 11:15:01 GMT -5
Basically you are suggesting that Chancellor Martins of the world come a dime a dozen.
I would argue that he is a once-in-a-generation type leader and that we cannot expect his vision for our athletic department to be fully shared by his replacement.
When Martin left WSSU there was no one else to continue his D1 push and that personal passion project fell by the wayside.
It has been surmised by a number of people in the know that Martin's personal goal for our athletic department was to eventually have a FBS football program.
With him retiring, I am not confident the next chancellor will have that same personal goal and would be willing to make the required investment.
The lack of investment in athletics immediately after Martin left WSSU resulted in the WSSU athletic department that you see today.
That is the precedent I am using that causes my concern.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 23, 2023 12:13:47 GMT -5
you don't know that. i mean, aren't you the same person who stated that folks predicted that a&t would go 0-11 last season but you have no evidence that it ever happened? so why should anybody believe what you say? are you on the bot? i think not... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards You do realize that there's more to this than BDV, right? And It's not up to me to prove anything to you sir. And even if I did, your butt is so damn jaded about us even leaving the MEAC and ever believing an HBCU could ever significantly close it's "athletics wealth gap", it's absolutely pointless speaking to you about this otherwise. yep, like i said, you don't know "jack". stop acting like you're an "insider" when you know dayum well you're not...
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Post by countryboy on Sept 23, 2023 15:43:34 GMT -5
Other than your opinion, what do you know that we don’t know?
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Sept 23, 2023 15:50:51 GMT -5
Other than your opinion, what do you know that we don’t know? Nothing. Not a damn thang.
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Post by itsvenise on Sept 23, 2023 16:22:04 GMT -5
Basically you are suggesting that Chancellor Martins of the world come a dime a dozen. I would argue that he is a once-in-a-generation type leader and that we cannot expect his vision for our athletic department to be fully shared by his replacement. When Martin left WSSU there was no one else to continue his D1 push and that personal passion project fell by the wayside. It has been surmised by a number of people in the know that Martin's personal goal for our athletic department was to eventually have a FBS football program. With him retiring, I am not confident the next chancellor will have that same personal goal and would be willing to make the required investment. The lack of investment in athletics immediately after Martin left WSSU resulted in the WSSU athletic department that you see today. That is the precedent I am using that causes my concern. It’s different because Martin is retiring not going to another job. Plus NCAT is not transitioning to another division it’s just to another FCS conference. It wouldn’t surprise me if WSSU board probably wasn’t behind Martin. Also, just my opinion the CAA seems to be pushing NCAT to do better with athletics. It’s going to be an emotional ride but I think NCAT ultimately will be alright. I 100% agree Martin is one in a million.
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Post by moaggies5 on Sept 23, 2023 16:57:22 GMT -5
When I learned that our new crown jewel ERIC would bear the name of Chancellor Martin, I was like well done and it gave me pause. I know it is extremely rare to have a sitting Chancellor have his or her name appear on a campus building. I thought that was interesting and I also thought it was just a matter of time before he would make this decision.
I share this because I believe he gave the Board some indication that he would be stepping down. And looking at how we've moved, I trust that Martin will play a significant role in choosing his successor. That means Martin will do whatever is necessary to make certain those visions and dreams he birthed are carried out.
Finally, I must say that the comments I've read and the invoking of the future of our athletics being a huge concern is disappointing. Our mission is to educate the minds of our young men and women. Chancellor Martin is on record with how he feels about our athletics. I'm a former Aggie athlete and root hard for all of our teams. But, I'm more interested in our academics and our brand. We will be ok and I trust our leadership to get it right.
Salute to Chancellor Martin and his family for a job well done! On and upward...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 23, 2023 18:23:40 GMT -5
Finally, I must say that the comments I've read and the invoking of the future of our athletics being a huge concern is disappointing. Our mission is to educate the minds of our young men and women. Chancellor Martin is on record with how he feels about our athletics. I'm a former Aggie athlete and root hard for all of our teams. But, I'm more interested in our academics and our brand. We will be ok and I trust our leadership to get it right. You are disappointed that folks on a football message board would actually wonder about the future of our athletic department?
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