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Post by codeblu78 on Mar 19, 2023 14:24:35 GMT -5
This is what happens when you don't have a real coaching staff in place for an entire season. I personally would surprise to see any current A&T men's basketball players return for the 2023-24 season. They basically had to develop themselves on their own this past year. All this is based on money for Watson, woods and Powell. This will be woods and Watson’s 3rd transfer, honestly I am happy they are leaving! Good kids but aren’t team players…gives the new coach opportunity to instill his system without resistance. Watson is an A&T graduate though!!!!Aggie Pride This will be Watson’s 4th school Oklahoma St New Mexico St A&T 4th has to be the charm Would be curious to know what he’s getting his degree in |
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 19, 2023 14:27:15 GMT -5
All this is based on money for Watson, woods and Powell. This will be woods and Watson’s 3rd transfer, honestly I am happy they are leaving! Good kids but aren’t team players…gives the new coach opportunity to instill his system without resistance. Watson is an A&T graduate though!!!!Aggie Pride This will be Watson’s 4th school Oklahoma St New Mexico St A&T 4th has to be the charm Would be curious to know what he’s getting his degree in Woods 4th school too Troy JUCO A&T 4th TBD |
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Post by B on Mar 19, 2023 15:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Mar 19, 2023 16:02:06 GMT -5
Really!! How many MEAC Championships, How many NCAA appearances,, How many 20 win seasons. Ain't gone argue with you. Don’t argue 😂 So ADs should be fired when their schools don’t make NCAA tournament? Winning a conference championship in men’s basketball is more important than winning conference championships in football, women’s volleyball, track and field? Just asking😂😂 So 20 wins is more important than conf wins? A OOC schedule full of D-2s would help a coach get to 20 wins 😂😂 So winning the conference championship holds more weight than finishing 2nd and 5th nationally? There have been many AD'S fired because their basketball teams did not win. The basketball team is suppose to be the second sport behind football to generate money. I mentioned other factors as to why we need a new AD. You didn't mention them. Those poor basketball records you produced over the last several years did not produce a MEAC Championship or NCAA or NIT bid. A&T was once known as a basketball institution and was feared by all. Those pop corn records you researched over the last several years are a disgrace. As for the guys transferring to the Portal because they can't play worth a damn doesn't bother me. Let them go. There are plenty of other fish in the sea. You know what those same guys that are leaving would not even made A&T's teams in the 60, 70 and 80's. I am out. Concentrate on something else. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 19, 2023 16:18:00 GMT -5
Don’t argue 😂 So ADs should be fired when their schools don’t make NCAA tournament? Winning a conference championship in men’s basketball is more important than winning conference championships in football, women’s volleyball, track and field? Just asking😂😂 So 20 wins is more important than conf wins? A OOC schedule full of D-2s would help a coach get to 20 wins 😂😂 So winning the conference championship holds more weight than finishing 2nd and 5th nationally? There have been many AD'S fired because their basketball teams did not win. The basketball team is suppose to be the second sport behind football to generate money. I mentioned other factors as to why we need a new AD. You didn't mention them. Those poor basketball records you produced over the last several years did not produce a MEAC Championship or NCAA or NIT bid. A&T was once known as a basketball institution and was feared by all. Those pop corn records you researched over the last several years are a disgrace. As for the guys transferring to the Portal because they can't play worth a damn doesn't bother me. Let them go. There are plenty of other fish in the sea. You know what those same guys that are leaving would not even made A&T's teams in the 60, 70 and 80's. I am out. Concentrate on something else. This isn’t the 60s, 70s or 80s 😂, during that era the MEAC only had 8 schools…wasn’t hard to make the tournament. The guys that attended A&T during your era would have attended P5 schools not A&T 🤷🏾♂️ A&T is no longer a basketball school, A&T wants to be good in all sports. During the period A&T wasnt good in football but now we are 😂😂. What FCS school is great at both? |
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Mar 19, 2023 16:42:38 GMT -5
To GOD Be The Glory! Just as I said last week, their new school/team will be Fat Joe's and Dillinger's FOURTH school. I'll say it again...If you are an employer and you receive a resume from an applicant who had four different jobs with four different employers in as many years, you wouldn't be able to wave enough red flags. There were supposed/alleged issues with both of these young men before they arrived at 1601 East Market Street, but Mr. Jones took that gamble and rolled the dice anyway. At least Fat Joe will graduate. I ain't mad about them leaving. I hate to see The Dallas Shag and McDuffie enter the portal, but in the end, after maybe 2 seasons, Aggie Men's Basketball will be relevant again. It's going to take some time... |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 19, 2023 16:49:59 GMT -5
What FCS school is great at both? Just my two cents on the above question. I would say that NCCU and Furman have a good balance between the 2 sports. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 19, 2023 16:54:26 GMT -5
Just my two cents on the above question. I would say that NCCU and Furman have a good balance between the 2 sports. I place an asterisk by NCCU, MEAC only has 6 teams and half are simply terrible in football and basketball. |
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Post by A&T-roy on Mar 19, 2023 17:03:42 GMT -5
Remember - NONE of them are GONE yet. See Charlie Dixon, Jaylen Jackson, etc. What happened with them? Did they enter the transfer portal and later decided not to transfer on their own or the "new hired coach" talked them out of it? I see that Jaylen Jackson is not listed on the MBB team after 1 season. The 1st day for a basketball player to place their name in the portal was March 12,2023. These players thought about it long enough to convince themselves that it was the right thing to do. All players are basically given the following guidance or warnings (not my words): { You should begin the process only when you’re "100% sure". After you initiate the transfer process, your current scholarship should remain intact. Your scholarship for the following academic term, however, is not guaranteed. If you end up rescinding the transfer and decide to stay at your current school, your scholarship could be in jeopardy. Once your current school knows you intend to transfer, they can rescind any scholarship offers for the next semester, quarter, or trimester. They may even give it to another student-athlete. This won’t matter if you transfer. Once a player is in the portal, coaches from any school can decide if they want to reach out to a player as coaches have access to all contact information. } Maybe 1 out of the 5 tranfer portal players will come back. Coaches from other schools are approaching them now while we decide on a new coach. Coach Shumpert had to talk with all of them before they submitted their "written" request to enter the transfer portal. When a player enters the portal they can stay at/come back to the school they're trying to transfer from if the coach wants them. They haven't fully transferred until they go to another school. Jackson isn't on our roster for this past year because he wasn't on the team. He said he's coming back next year. He went in the portal but I don't know why he came back. Didn't ask him. We'll see if the new coach takes/keeps him. |
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Post by jbrob on Mar 19, 2023 17:25:16 GMT -5
The coach needs to sell the University. A&T sells itself!!! Get into these homes and talk to these players and their families. In the top 3 research universities in the UNC System for more than a decade #2 university in 17-campus UNC System in new alumni earnings - $54,900 #2 public university in America for combining research and classroom teaching #1 Public HBCU #1 producer of African American undergraduates in both Engineering and Agriculture and in masters degrees in Mathematics/Statistics and Engineering #1 producer of Black engineers who go on to earn doctoral degrees 13,500 students www.ncat.edu/about/rankings-and-recognition/index.php |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 19, 2023 18:18:54 GMT -5
In my opinion, we are now in the rebuild phase. It is somewhat difficult for losing mid-major school coaches (A&T MBB finished under 0.500) to replace top performers stats wise thru the transfer portal with similar talent. The coach is going to have to do a great job recruiting high school players.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Mar 19, 2023 19:14:31 GMT -5
There have been many AD'S fired because their basketball teams did not win. The basketball team is suppose to be the second sport behind football to generate money. I mentioned other factors as to why we need a new AD. You didn't mention them. Those poor basketball records you produced over the last several years did not produce a MEAC Championship or NCAA or NIT bid. A&T was once known as a basketball institution and was feared by all. Those pop corn records you researched over the last several years are a disgrace. As for the guys transferring to the Portal because they can't play worth a damn doesn't bother me. Let them go. There are plenty of other fish in the sea. You know what those same guys that are leaving would not even made A&T's teams in the 60, 70 and 80's. I am out. Concentrate on something else. This isn’t the 60s, 70s or 80s 😂, during that era the MEAC only had 8 schools…wasn’t hard to make the tournament. The guys that attended A&T during your era would have attended P5 schools not A&T 🤷🏾♂️ A&T is no longer a basketball school, A&T wants to be good in all sports. During the period A&T wasnt good in football but now we are 😂😂. What FCS school is great at both? 2039 check your history about how many teams were in the CIAA in the 60's that A&T was a member of. You right those players in the 60 and 70's would have been P5 players today. That is one damn reason I know DI players when I see them. We can't get it synchronized in football and basketball because the athletic administration made boo boos in hiring basketball coaches. What AD in their right mind would hire 3 Interim basketball coaches in a row. Show me a school that has done this. That is grounds for dismissing an AD by itself. |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 19, 2023 22:01:08 GMT -5
Not really, the one-time exception rule (transfer once without sitting out) has been in effect I think for 1-2 years. After that you need to have some kind of special exemption like family hardship waivers, graduate exception, graduate transfer waiver, etc. to avoid sitting out a year. |
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Mar 20, 2023 0:15:47 GMT -5
Not really, the one-time exception rule (transfer once without sitting out) has been in effect I think for 1-2 years. After that you need to have some kind of special exemption like family hardship waivers, graduate exception, graduate transfer waiver, etc. to avoid sitting out a year. I do believe that is what B indicated. I think he understands what the rules are without your explanation. |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 20, 2023 3:32:14 GMT -5
Not really, the one-time exception rule (transfer once without sitting out) has been in effect I think for 1-2 years. After that you need to have some kind of special exemption like family hardship waivers, graduate exception, graduate transfer waiver, etc. to avoid sitting out a year. I do believe that is what B indicated. I think he understands what the rules are without your explanation. I don't see how a rule that is primarily responsible for the increase in players entering the transfer portal each year is cracking down on anything. These new rules and waivers have made it easier to transfer multiple times. That is why some kids transfer 2 to 3 times without sitting out one year. I was under the impression that he was unaware of this, thus the explanation. Marcus Watson has transferred 3 times and has not sat out once. He will use the graduate transfer waiver since he already used the one-time exception. Kam Woods will have transferred 3 times. The one-time exception only applies to students transferring between four-year collegiate institutions, therefore, because he attended JUCO, he still has the one-time exception available to use for his next college. He will not sit out. |
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