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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2023 22:56:30 GMT -5
Both Woods and Bettis fall into that category. They would have sit out next season before playing again in what will be their senior year in 2024-25 if they follow through with another transfer somewhere else. The rule will not effect Bettis but it will effect Woods . Bettis attended a JUCO straight out of high school, so this will be his first transfer from a 4 year program . Woods transferred to a JUCO from a 4 year program and then to A&T..i.e 4-2-4 . If this rule is in effect Woods will have to setout at his next program stop . Kam will not be effected if this particular new 4-2-4 one-time transfer exception rule even exist, since it goes into effect Fall 2023. Kam entered the basketball transfer portal the Spring of 2023 and is under the 2022 NCAA rules/guidelines for winter sports. He will probably be enrolled in another school before this new rule goes into effect. |
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2023 22:57:50 GMT -5
Until I see a new official NCAA one-time exception rule that applies to 4-2-4 players, I am going to assume former JUCO players are eligible for the one-time exception rule. Dropping down to a JUCO "to me" is equivalent to sitting out a year at D1. So if a player qualified for the one-time exception at his first 4 year college but did not use it to transfer to a 2 year college, how does a player lose it transferring from a 2 year college back to his second 4 year college? A player has always had the ability to go back and forth between JUCO and D1 without sitting out as long as no issues with grades or accepted course credits. What is the benefit of taking away this exception from a 4-2-4 player? NJCAA and NCAA are different divisions and rules. See Fred Cleveland Jr College career. basketball.realgm.com/player/Fred-Cleveland-Jr/Summary/131337Former JUCO players that began there career at a JUCO . Players that transfer into a JUCO program from a 4 year and then to another 4 year program..4-2-4 , will have to setout if they decide to transfer transfer to another 4 year program. If this rule is in play now Woods will have to set at his next program. This rule is for players that portal jump from one 4 year program to other program 4 year programs and those that use JUCO's to skate around the eligibility rule . C19 played a part in allowing a lot of players to be able to slide by and take advantage of the transfer rules . But things are back to normal now and a lot of those portal hopping players are getting caught up in the mix . Also it's not his second. It's his third..i.e 4-2-4 not 4-2-4-4 ! |
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2023 23:00:46 GMT -5
The rule will not effect Bettis but it will effect Woods . Bettis attended a JUCO straight out of high school, so this will be his first transfer from a 4 year program . Woods transferred to a JUCO from a 4 year program and then to A&T..i.e 4-2-4 . If this rule is in effect Woods will have to setout at his next program stop . Kam will not be effected if this particular new rule even exist since it goes into effect Fall 2023. Kam entered the basketball transfer portal the Spring of 2023 and is under the 2022 NCAA rules/guidelines for winter sports. He will probably be enrolled in another school before this new rule goes into effect. Re-read my statement especially the last 3 sentences . If ! |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2023 23:34:52 GMT -5
Kam will not be effected if this particular new rule even exist since it goes into effect Fall 2023. Kam entered the basketball transfer portal the Spring of 2023 and is under the 2022 NCAA rules/guidelines for winter sports. He will probably be enrolled in another school before this new rule goes into effect. Re-read my statement especially the last 3 sentences . If ! Gotcha. |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 26, 2023 8:41:34 GMT -5
As I mentioned before, Kam already knows if he is eligible for the one-time transfer portal exception because he had to discuss his situation with A&T's compliance officer before entering the portal. Whatever he was told, he still decided to transfer. Below is information taken from an official NCAA document on the one-time exception process and eligibility. Q2: What happens if a student-athlete does not satisfy the one-time transfer exception criteria but still decides to transfer? A2: In most cases, the student-athlete must attend full time and complete an academic year of residence at the new Division I school before being eligible for competition. Student-athletes should discuss additional transfer exceptions or eligibility options that may be available, depending on the specific transfer situation, with their campus compliance administrator. fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Transfer/OneTime_Transfer.pdfI was not able to find any official NCAA info to verify the tweet on the one-time transfer exception rule not applying to 4-2-4 players is true. |
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Post by saabman on Mar 26, 2023 14:04:51 GMT -5
As I mentioned before, Kam already knows if he is eligible for the one-time transfer portal exception because he had to discuss his situation with A&T's compliance officer before entering the portal. Whatever he was told, he still decided to transfer. Below is information taken from an official NCAA document on the one-time exception process and eligibility. Q2: What happens if a student-athlete does not satisfy the one-time transfer exception criteria but still decides to transfer? A2: In most cases, the student-athlete must attend full time and complete an academic year of residence at the new Division I school before being eligible for competition. Student-athletes should discuss additional transfer exceptions or eligibility options that may be available, depending on the specific transfer situation, with their campus compliance administrator. fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Transfer/OneTime_Transfer.pdfI was not able to find any official NCAA info to verify the tweet on the one-time transfer exception rule not applying to 4-2-4 players is true. He can always apply for an Weaver. If he is affected by the rule . |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 26, 2023 15:24:29 GMT -5
As I mentioned before, Kam already knows if he is eligible for the one-time transfer portal exception because he had to discuss his situation with A&T's compliance officer before entering the portal. Whatever he was told, he still decided to transfer. Below is information taken from an official NCAA document on the one-time exception process and eligibility. Q2: What happens if a student-athlete does not satisfy the one-time transfer exception criteria but still decides to transfer? A2: In most cases, the student-athlete must attend full time and complete an academic year of residence at the new Division I school before being eligible for competition. Student-athletes should discuss additional transfer exceptions or eligibility options that may be available, depending on the specific transfer situation, with their campus compliance administrator. fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Transfer/OneTime_Transfer.pdfI was not able to find any official NCAA info to verify the tweet on the one-time transfer exception rule not applying to 4-2-4 players is true. He can always apply for an Waiver. If he is affected by the rule . Yes, he has the options of transfer exception, transfer waiver, and transfer appeal. |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 27, 2023 8:24:45 GMT -5
Below is the best information I found that explains how players like Kam can play immediately at their 3rd four year university (4-4-4 or 4-2-4-4) if they are not eligible for the one-time transfer exception. Kam if need be will request the "Coaching Change" waiver or "No Participation Opportunity at Current School" waiver. The no participation waiver gives a player 2 bites at the apple. If a coach pulls a player's scholarship for the next semester after he enters the transfer portal and would not take the player back on scholarship if he were to drop out of the portal, then that player qualifies for the no participation opportunity waiver. He now can play immediately at the new college. This loophole along with a few others will be closed in the 2023-24 academic school year. This year will be the highest number of transfers entering the portal to date. Read below. On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, The NCAA notified all the college athletic programs under its purview that it is updating the procedural requirements regarding the portal options of two-time transfer undergraduates. The changes do not affect first-time transfers whatsoever and focuses specifically on the two-time transfer “waiver”. The most significant update is that waivers will no longer be approved due to coaching changes, the athlete’s playing time/role changes, or changes to his or her scholarship status with the current institution. This will strongly control the number of student-athletes entering the portal multiple times as they try to find their footing. The changes are deemed in effect starting the 2023-24 championship season. www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/college/auburn/.amp/football/ncaa-changes-portal-options-for-undergraduate-transfersNow if a player is a walk-on then he also has the option of the "Non-Scholarship or Non-Recruited Transfer Exception" if the one-time transfer exception is no longer available. |
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Post by Aggie One on Mar 28, 2023 8:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 28, 2023 9:10:16 GMT -5
I estimate we will exceed the 1,750 mark breaking the 1,687 transfers set in 2021. Women basketball transfers last year was 1,276. Football is going to be wild as well (2,918 transfers last year). |
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Post by Maxell on Mar 28, 2023 16:39:37 GMT -5
That's why a good coach should have little trouble fielding a competitive team next year.
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 28, 2023 17:02:13 GMT -5
There’s a difference between a bunch of talented players and forming a good team.
I wouldn’t trust a team of ego-driven, loyalty lacking, fickle, disgruntled former high school all stars that couldn’t cut it at their former school for one reason or another.
Now if we can find genuinely humble, talented, team-driven cats that got a raw deal at their prior institution then it’s all good. Of course that’s a big if.
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Post by saabman on Mar 28, 2023 20:19:09 GMT -5
There’s a difference between a bunch of talented players and forming a good team. I wouldn’t trust a team of ego-driven, loyalty lacking, fickle, disgruntled former high school all stars that couldn’t cut it at their former school for one reason or another. Now if we can find genuinely humble, talented, team-driven cats that got a raw deal at their prior institution then it’s all good. Of course that’s a big if. Cuzo got to have those role players. |
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Post by Maxell on Mar 28, 2023 23:02:50 GMT -5
There’s a difference between a bunch of talented players and forming a good team. I wouldn’t trust a team of ego-driven, loyalty lacking, fickle, disgruntled former high school all stars that couldn’t cut it at their former school for one reason or another. Now if we can find genuinely humble, talented, team-driven cats that got a raw deal at their prior institution then it’s all good. Of course that’s a big if. Cuzo got to have those role players. Absolutely. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 29, 2023 15:42:42 GMT -5
That's why a good coach should have little trouble fielding a competitive team next year. a good coach who is a great "recruiter" should have little trouble fielding a competitive team next year. but if he's not a great "recruiter", all bets are off!! |
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