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Post by saabman on Mar 24, 2023 21:15:28 GMT -5
Hilton rolled the dice and tried to save money and get through this past men's basketball season with an unqualified coaching staff. The gamble almost paid off if you look at our overall record and finish in the CAA conference standings, but it failed in the sense that he pretty much lost the entire roster and now the next coach must completely start from scratch. Which is a good thing in my opinion. Less stress on the new head coach when it comes to implementing his system and playing style . |
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Post by Aggie One on Mar 25, 2023 13:43:56 GMT -5
A couple of our recent portal entrants might need to read this bit of info.
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 25, 2023 13:46:19 GMT -5
A couple of our recent portal entrants might need to read this bit of info. So here are the rules. EVERYONE IN JUCO NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS and you’re not going to like it. JUCO transfers are screwed. So as it stands today, if you went to a 4 year, transferred to a JUCO, went to another 4 year, you DO NOT get the one time transfer exception. It doesn’t matter if your scholarship isn’t renewed, it doesn’t matter if there was a coaching change….you CANNOT transfer to another 4 year NCAA institution and be immediately eligible. There are no waivers available to you outside of some limited health and well being or hardship waivers. |
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Post by Aggie One on Mar 25, 2023 14:17:08 GMT -5
Both Woods and Bettis fall into that category. They would have sit out next season before playing again in what will be their senior year in 2024-25 if they follow through with another transfer somewhere else.
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 25, 2023 14:36:22 GMT -5
Both Woods and Bettis fall into that category. They would have sit out next season before playing again in what will be their senior year in 2024-25 if they follow through with another transfer somewhere else. What school did Bettis attend prior to JUCO? |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2023 14:58:37 GMT -5
These new transfer portal rules do not go into effect until next school year 2023-24. B posted the below link in this thread on March 19th. www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football/college-football-transfer-portal-rules-ncaa-changeAlthough it does not mention specifically how JUCO transfers are impacted by the new rules, common sense says that former JUCO players still can use the one-time exception rule. It is illegal to retroactively apply a new rule/law to punish someone of a crime/offense that was legal at the time they performed the act. All A&T former JUCO players currently in the transfer portal became D1 players 2022 or earlier. They cannot and should not be bound by this new one-time exception rule. Similar to the 2020 Covid extra year eligibility. Players that enrolled in college 2021 or later do not qualify, but we still have current players in college still eligible for the Covid year exception. In addition, look at A&T former player Fred Cleveland Jr. He transferred from A&T to Itawamba CC and then to NCCU last year and was immediately granted to play at NCCU. This says that the one-time exception rule once applied to 4-2-4 players and the NCAA is just now making a decision to end it according to the above post. I wish there was a link to the actual NCAA rule instead of a tweet. Lastly, all players that enter the transfer portal must meet with school's athletic department or compliance office to get a permission-to-contact letter. If this was an issue, they would have been warned at that time before submitting their name and contact info into the transfer portal. These kids receive proper school guidance on the tranfer portal rules before they act, but it is their decision to leave if they choose to. That is why it is a hard lesson if things don't work out and they want to return. |
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Mar 25, 2023 15:32:21 GMT -5
Both Woods and Bettis fall into that category. They would have sit out next season before playing again in what will be their senior year in 2024-25 if they follow through with another transfer somewhere else. What school did Bettis attend prior to JUCO? None. Went to Coffeyville outta HS then came to A&T. Kam went to Troy before JUCO though |
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2023 17:11:44 GMT -5
A couple of our recent portal entrants might need to read this bit of info. So here are the rules. EVERYONE IN JUCO NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS and you’re not going to like it. JUCO transfers are screwed. So as it stands today, if you went to a 4 year, transferred to a JUCO, went to another 4 year, you DO NOT get the one time transfer exception. It doesn’t matter if your scholarship isn’t renewed, it doesn’t matter if there was a coaching change….you CANNOT transfer to another 4 year NCAA institution and be immediately eligible. There are no waivers available to you outside of some limited health and well being or hardship waivers. That dose apply to players that started out at a JUCO before transferring to a 4 year program . This is ment for the players leave 4 year program and hop to a Juco for one year and then to another 4 year program so that they can be eligible right away. So in reality Juco players are not screwed (True JUCO studentathletes), only the ones that have started out at a 4 year Institution prior to arriving at the junior college level. I don't think any of the players that transfer out would be affected by this rule at least for this year. |
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2023 17:19:26 GMT -5
What school did Bettis attend prior to JUCO? None. Went to Coffeyville outta HS then came to A&T. Kam went to Troy before JUCO though Kam maybe effected by the 4 -2-4 rule . But Bettis is good to go . |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2023 17:26:21 GMT -5
None. Went to Coffeyville outta HS then came to A&T. Kam went to Troy before JUCO though Kam maybe effected by the 4 -2-4 rule . But Bettis is good to go . Yes, they are talking about Kam. He attended Troy, then Northwest Florida State College, then A&T. I need to see if this 4-2-4 rule was in effect at the beginning of the 2022 academic school year. |
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Post by B on Mar 25, 2023 18:40:31 GMT -5
A&T 2023-24 MBB Roster (Potential) 1. *#Harry Morrice 6-11 F 235 2. #Austin Johnson 6-9 F 235 3. Will Felton 6-9 F 260 4. #Jeremy Robinson 6-6 F 215 5. Kyle Duke 6-4 G 185 6. Garrison Powell 6-4 G 185 7. Tyrese Elliott 6-2 G 190 8. Justin Brooks 6-1 G 185 (Walk-on) 9. Ahmad Hamilton 6-1 G 170 (Walk-on) 10. ^Marquavious Brown 6-4 G 175 ------------- * Qualify for medical redshirt # 1 year eligibility left (Verbal Commits is source) ^ 2023 high school verbal commit Updated 2023-24 Potential MBB roster based on player's eligibility according to Verbal Commits. Jeremy Robinson was added and Ahmad Hamilton was changed to walk-on. If all of the 1 year eligibility left players do return, we have 5 scholarships available for high school recruits and transfers. If they all leave then we have 8 scholarships available. Morrice, Johnson, and Felton are all power forwards? |
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Post by jbrob on Mar 25, 2023 18:50:45 GMT -5
Both Woods and Bettis fall into that category. They would have sit out next season before playing again in what will be their senior year in 2024-25 if they follow through with another transfer somewhere else. What school did Bettis attend prior to JUCO? The Aggies signed Bettis from prestigious junior college Coffeyville … Brings speed and quickness to the Aggies lineup along with another long-range shooter … Brings a winning attitude to Aggieland after winning a National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA) national championship as a freshman … Aggies consider him a steal in the recruiting process … Should make the Aggies one of the better 3-point shooting teams in the country. ncataggies.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/love-bettis/3536 |
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2023 19:20:43 GMT -5
Updated 2023-24 Potential MBB roster based on player's eligibility according to Verbal Commits. Jeremy Robinson was added and Ahmad Hamilton was changed to walk-on. If all of the 1 year eligibility left players do return, we have 5 scholarships available for high school recruits and transfers. If they all leave then we have 8 scholarships available. Morrice, Johnson, and Felton are all power forwards? In today's game the prototype Center is no longer needed. Even if a team has a center he is played mostly in a motion offense as if he was a forward . You have 7 footers shooting 3's . |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2023 21:21:15 GMT -5
Until I see a new official NCAA one-time exception rule that applies to 4-2-4 players, I am going to assume former JUCO players are eligible for the one-time exception rule. Dropping down to a JUCO "to me" is equivalent to sitting out a year at D1. So if a player qualified for the one-time exception at his first 4 year college but did not use it to transfer to a 2 year college, how does a player lose it transferring from a 2 year college back to his second 4 year college? A player has always had the ability to go back and forth between JUCO and D1 without sitting out as long as no issues with grades or accepted course credits. What is the benefit of taking away this exception from a 4-2-4 player? NJCAA and NCAA are different divisions and rules. See Fred Cleveland Jr College career. basketball.realgm.com/player/Fred-Cleveland-Jr/Summary/131337 |
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2023 22:34:55 GMT -5
Both Woods and Bettis fall into that category. They would have sit out next season before playing again in what will be their senior year in 2024-25 if they follow through with another transfer somewhere else. The rule will not effect Bettis but it will effect Woods . Bettis attended a JUCO straight out of high school, so this will be his first transfer from a 4 year program . Woods transferred to a JUCO from a 4 year program and then to A&T..i.e 4-2-4 . If this rule is in effect Woods will have to setout at his next program stop . |
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