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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 16, 2022 8:42:54 GMT -5
2039 why do you keep asking what two things. Please read! I am saying that Promises and wants are two separate things. Not that there are two things they want. All I’m saying is if you have a buck stops here mentality you have to look at the overall.. and the overall aspect of A&T athletics is absolutely horrible. The players are yelling it from the rooftop. My loyalty is to the institution not to people. People come and go . But the institution and our brand remains. If the football players, basketball players, and track athletes are all yelling the same exact thing and to the extent the coaches echoing that we would be a fool to ignore it. There is some truth to it somewhere. Again as I said in a previous post that yesterdays skill set is not necessarily what’s needed today. College Athletics has changed dramatically. It’s a whole new world. I think our adaptation to this has been abysmal. I think our attendance is abysmal giving the past success, our corporate sponsorship and advertisement is abysmal.. nil deals are abysmal, .. either their needs to be a strong conversation of adaptation w benchmarks or there needs to be a plan to transition to someone who can do these things .. Money is an issue but A&T finds the money when they want to do something. We’ve got 3 buyouts and two conference changes that literally cost tens of millions of dollars, and they said no problem. So I hear it but it’s not the sole problem or the biggest one. From the cheap seats I sit in this is about leadership and vision. And we are lacking it. Im saying what are their wants because the players stated their demands were not being met yet no one has said what those are. changing conferences was not tens of millions of dollars... buying out coaches was not expensive. We have this long chat, and no one has given specifics just general statements. |
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Post by aggie30 on Dec 16, 2022 8:50:12 GMT -5
2039 why do you keep asking what two things. Please read! I am saying that Promises and wants are two separate things. Not that there are two things they want. All I’m saying is if you have a buck stops here mentality you have to look at the overall.. and the overall aspect of A&T athletics is absolutely horrible. The players are yelling it from the rooftop. My loyalty is to the institution not to people. People come and go . But the institution and our brand remains. If the football players, basketball players, and track athletes are all yelling the same exact thing and to the extent the coaches echoing that we would be a fool to ignore it. There is some truth to it somewhere. Again as I said in a previous post that yesterdays skill set is not necessarily what’s needed today. College Athletics has changed dramatically. It’s a whole new world. I think our adaptation to this has been abysmal. I think our attendance is abysmal giving the past success, our corporate sponsorship and advertisement is abysmal.. nil deals are abysmal, .. either their needs to be a strong conversation of adaptation w benchmarks or there needs to be a plan to transition to someone who can do these things .. Money is an issue but A&T finds the money when they want to do something. We’ve got 3 buyouts and two conference changes that literally cost tens of millions of dollars, and they said no problem. So I hear it but it’s not the sole problem or the biggest one. From the cheap seats I sit in this is about leadership and vision. And we are lacking it. Im saying what are their wants because the players stated their demands were not being met yet no one has said what those are. changing conferences was not tens of millions of dollars... buying out coaches was not expensive. We have this long chat, and no one has given specifics just general statements. Read the 2023-2024 season post. These are some of the things the players are asking for. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 16, 2022 8:51:56 GMT -5
Dude, you were on here two days ago spreading the nonsense that Coach Washington resigned on his own accord and was not fired. That obviously was a lie. He did not even get a chance to say goodbye to his players. You need to go back to your sources and ask them why they invented that story and what was their motivation to encourage you to repeat it. There seems to be people behind the scenes at A&T who are just hellbent on keeping up the status quo and preventing real improvements from happening. Where's your proof that is was a lie? You just on here talking like everyone else. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 16, 2022 8:59:16 GMT -5
Im saying what are their wants because the players stated their demands were not being met yet no one has said what those are. changing conferences was not tens of millions of dollars... buying out coaches was not expensive. We have this long chat, and no one has given specifics just general statements. Read the 2023-2024 season post. These are some of the things the players are asking for. Did you just refer to a wishlist from BDV posters as player wants and demands? LOL Only thing I saw on that thread that could have been from athletes is "I am really worried about the weight room, academics, and nutrition for the players. Those are the complaints that I have heard from people." and that came from you. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 16, 2022 9:01:47 GMT -5
Im saying what are their wants because the players stated their demands were not being met yet no one has said what those are. changing conferences was not tens of millions of dollars... buying out coaches was not expensive. We have this long chat, and no one has given specifics just general statements. Read the 2023-2024 season post. These are some of the things the players are asking for. QB coach Special Teams coach Grad assistants Extra Strength and Conditioning support Better communication from the Admin and Chancellor. Community involvement (fan support just like the GW game) Academic Support (more help for the student athletes) Nutritionist All of these request total around $750K - $800k annually w/o including annual inflation. So the players expect this to happen within a couple of months? These efforts requiring planning and must be placed on a roadmap. Heck we have vacant S&C positioning due to personnel taking jobs elsewhere that we must first fill. |
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Post by aggie30 on Dec 16, 2022 9:04:59 GMT -5
Read the 2023-2024 season post. These are some of the things the players are asking for. Did you just refer to a wishlist from BDV posters as player wants and demands? LOL Only thing I saw on that thread that could have been from athletes is "I am really worried about the weight room, academics, and nutrition for the players. Those are the complaints that I have heard from people." and that came from you. I will never name the players that said this is what they needed. Just look at the other schools in the CAA. See what they are doing with their student athletes. A lot of these kids went on visits to these other schools. You tell me if these things are not needed. Do you really think the players would go on this platform or any social media and complain? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 9:05:25 GMT -5
Read the 2023-2024 season post. These are some of the things the players are asking for. Did you just refer to a wishlist from BDV posters as player wants and demands? LOL Only thing I saw on that thread that could have been from athletes is "I am really worried about the weight room, academics, and nutrition for the players. Those are the complaints that I have heard from people." and that came from you. In the Twitter spaces, Karfa spoke to a promise not kept regarding housing. Apparently, they had to pay for housing on their own if they didn’t stay in Cooper. We also have vacancies in certain areas that affected getting recovery treatments. There were apparent promises about this also. Lastly, they don’t like the fact that they never met with Earl regarding these issues. In my summation, this comes down to money oddly getting tight. Most of athletics funding comes from student fees and Campus Enterprises. There’s been a goal for Campus Enterprises to reduce the amount of money spent on athletics from their end. This meant Athletics would need to sure up this funding gap. Well, between the pandemic and this move to the CAA, that’s gotta change. They may need to bump up their percentage of athletics funding to 40 percent of the expense budget to fulfill all of these demands from the players and new coaching staff. And that’s not in Earl. That’s on Harold. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 9:06:28 GMT -5
Did you just refer to a wishlist from BDV posters as player wants and demands? LOL Only thing I saw on that thread that could have been from athletes is "I am really worried about the weight room, academics, and nutrition for the players. Those are the complaints that I have heard from people." and that came from you. I will never name the players that said this is what they needed. Just look at the other schools in the CAA. See what they are doing with their student athletes. A lot of these kids went on visits to these other schools. You tell me if these things are not needed. Do you really think the players would go on this platform or any social media and complain? No harm, no foul if players are saying this publicly on Twitter and social media. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 16, 2022 9:15:57 GMT -5
Did you just refer to a wishlist from BDV posters as player wants and demands? LOL Only thing I saw on that thread that could have been from athletes is "I am really worried about the weight room, academics, and nutrition for the players. Those are the complaints that I have heard from people." and that came from you. I will never name the players that said this is what they needed. Just look at the other schools in the CAA. See what they are doing with their student athletes. A lot of these kids went on visits to these other schools. You tell me if these things are not needed. Do you really think the players would go on this platform or any social media and complain? Yes, lol People always complain on social media lol |
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 16, 2022 9:17:37 GMT -5
Did you just refer to a wishlist from BDV posters as player wants and demands? LOL Only thing I saw on that thread that could have been from athletes is "I am really worried about the weight room, academics, and nutrition for the players. Those are the complaints that I have heard from people." and that came from you. In the Twitter spaces, Karfa spoke to a promise not kept regarding housing. Apparently, they had to pay for housing on their own if they didn’t stay in Cooper. We also have vacancies in certain areas that affected getting recovery treatments. There were apparent promises about this also. Lastly, they don’t like the fact that they never met with Earl regarding these issues. In my summation, this comes down to money oddly getting tight. Most of athletics funding comes from student fees and Campus Enterprises. There’s been a goal for Campus Enterprises to reduce the amount of money spent on athletics from their end. This meant Athletics would need to sure up this funding gap. Well, between the pandemic and this move to the CAA, that’s gotta change. They may need to bump up their percentage of athletics funding to 40 percent of the expense budget to fulfill all of these demands from the players and new coaching staff. And that’s not in Earl. That’s on Harold. If they want more money for housing the AD has to do that for all sports.... 350 athletes x $$$ = $1M annually |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 16, 2022 9:18:45 GMT -5
Dude, you were on here two days ago spreading the nonsense that Coach Washington resigned on his own accord and was not fired. That obviously was a lie. He did not even get a chance to say goodbye to his players. You need to go back to your sources and ask them why they invented that story and what was their motivation to encourage you to repeat it. There seems to be people behind the scenes at A&T who are just hellbent on keeping up the status quo and preventing real improvements from happening. Where's your proof that is was a lie? You just on here talking like everyone else. Unlike you, I actually talk to players, coaches and people inside the department who actually have some authority. You get gossip from folks who like to create fiction and you just run with it without even trying to vet the information first. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 16, 2022 9:31:53 GMT -5
Where's your proof that is was a lie? You just on here talking like everyone else. Unlike you, I actually talk to players, coaches and people inside the department who actually have some authority. You get gossip from folks who like to create fiction and you just run with it without even trying to vet the information first. We will see. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 16, 2022 9:33:34 GMT -5
Did you just refer to a wishlist from BDV posters as player wants and demands? LOL Only thing I saw on that thread that could have been from athletes is "I am really worried about the weight room, academics, and nutrition for the players. Those are the complaints that I have heard from people." and that came from you. In the Twitter spaces, Karfa spoke to a promise not kept regarding housing. Apparently, they had to pay for housing on their own if they didn’t stay in Cooper. We also have vacancies in certain areas that affected getting recovery treatments. There were apparent promises about this also. Lastly, they don’t like the fact that they never met with Earl regarding these issues. In my summation, this comes down to money oddly getting tight. Most of athletics funding comes from student fees and Campus Enterprises. There’s been a goal for Campus Enterprises to reduce the amount of money spent on athletics from their end. This meant Athletics would need to sure up this funding gap. Well, between the pandemic and this move to the CAA, that’s gotta change. They may need to bump up their percentage of athletics funding to 40 percent of the expense budget to fulfill all of these demands from the players and new coaching staff. And that’s not in Earl. That’s on Harold. Ok, these are "things". Thats all I'm saying. I aint saying name a player or call a player out. But at least say what it is. Thanks Westcoast for understanding the question. The housing thing with Cooper I kind of get. There is a lot of variables to living off campus with a scholarship. Does it cost more than your room and board? If it does cost more does the University pay the difference since they on a full ride? Does it vary for each sport? Do we not have enough student athlete housing? |
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Post by aggie30 on Dec 16, 2022 9:38:00 GMT -5
In the Twitter spaces, Karfa spoke to a promise not kept regarding housing. Apparently, they had to pay for housing on their own if they didn’t stay in Cooper. We also have vacancies in certain areas that affected getting recovery treatments. There were apparent promises about this also. Lastly, they don’t like the fact that they never met with Earl regarding these issues. In my summation, this comes down to money oddly getting tight. Most of athletics funding comes from student fees and Campus Enterprises. There’s been a goal for Campus Enterprises to reduce the amount of money spent on athletics from their end. This meant Athletics would need to sure up this funding gap. Well, between the pandemic and this move to the CAA, that’s gotta change. They may need to bump up their percentage of athletics funding to 40 percent of the expense budget to fulfill all of these demands from the players and new coaching staff. And that’s not in Earl. That’s on Harold. If they want more money for housing the AD has to do that for all sports.... 350 athletes x $$$ = $1M annually I think it had to do with the way the students had to sign up for housing. I think some kids missed the sign up date. We had student athletes without housing. They were sleeping on teammates couches. Some also missed the sign up for meal plans also. I understand there is a deadline. I am not sure if the kids did just missed the email or received them late (last minute). Some of the student athletes need guidance. Maybe if they had a meeting with the football team to go over the process of how to sign up for all these things. |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Dec 16, 2022 9:41:59 GMT -5
See it's this type of stuff right here that's just ridiculous. Reminds me of the comments made about the so called "housing crisis" NCA&T was having at the start of the school year. Then when the facts were laid out, NCA&T had more housing as a percentage of the student body than most schools in the state. We have to stop this type of mess. This rush to panic, and to always assume the worst is nauseating. Our whole team is not in the portal, our sports program is not in disarray. Our school administrators are not incompetent. It's almost as if people want to run around with their hair on fire. The truth is some of our players have decided to put their names in the transfer portal. That happened last year, it's happening this year, and will continue to happen as long as there is a transfer portal...that's just a new reality in college sports. In the end let's see how many come back, or are replaced by an even better player (from the transfer portal) once all this shakes out. We fired a coach two days ago...a coach many of us had concerns about throughout the season, and openly called for his head, and questioned if he was the "man" to led us in this new conference. Now he's gone and our program is in a "crisis"? I know we are used to living in a world where you don't part ways with a coach unless things have hit rock bottom. That's not the world we live in now. Coaches are let go all the time in sports, and for a number of reasons. I can't speculate on why Washington was let go...but I do know it wasn't because our program had hit "rock bottom". The administration we have trusted to led the school has decided to move in another direction. You can voice your concerns, but either you trust this leadership or you don't. I mean damn! Some of you Aggies are singing their praises one day, and ready to push them off a bridge the next day. This will all come out in the wash, and if mistakes were made folk will be held accountable. I would argue our sports program is pretty solid. Solid enough that over the past 5 years we have had several accolades across many sports...including conference championship and national championships. So solid that we have been offered invites to better conferences and have administrative support to build out our athletic infrastructure even more. You many not like all their decisions, but our administration is far from incompetent. Students, athletes, and alumni will always complain. I've seen it happen at every school. NCA&T is no different. That said, after reading the "On Point Newsletter" from Harold Martin in my in box this morning there was no doubt the University is headed in the right direction. This social media foolishness has to stop...in all of 24 hours, a football program that just played in the BSC game and University leadership that has lead NCA&T to becoming the largest and one of the most respected HBCUs in the country is all in doubt. Many of y'all need to chill out and take a deep breath. Frist sentence of the Chancellor's Message from the Dec 2022 On Point Monthly update. "One of the management essentials we are committed to at NCA&T is maintaining a strong, up-to-the-minute understanding of where we stand among our peers and with our constituents. We must always know more than anyone else about our university, and always be in the process of learning more. Not just the basic fact and trends, but all of that in the context of a crowded and dynamic higher education marketplace and in connection to our mission, and outcomes." |
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