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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 18, 2022 10:09:32 GMT -5
Thankfully Thrilla is leading the discussion, because idk if I could ignore the disrespect.I would make the school look extremely bad. I know Aggies can be a little “arrogant” but cmon now. I’m a “band head” 100%…I understand the struggles they go through, and I still think they should be there. No need to take anything personal. One thing I'm going to do is give my honest opinion on topics that interest me. And honestly, I think a lot of good information has come from this discussion. And several new BDV message board members, LOL
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Post by ohsixrain on Nov 18, 2022 10:25:52 GMT -5
I dont blame the BGMM; I blame Chancellor Martin. He allowed this fiefdom to exist in the first place. Not there is legitimate confusion about the band's main priorities and governance structure. Well it’s clear that the chancellor allows the band leadership to use its own descretion but it can’t be abused or misused. In this case, I say it’s a misuse of discretion and I can’t get on board. Anytime we are competing for a championship, it should be all hands on deck when it comes to support in my opinion. And that should never be compromised. The prioritization is flawed…how in the hell someone have the nerve to say the football team will be alright without them. Just Crazy…but I’m done, I have ranted enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2022 10:37:18 GMT -5
I dont blame the BGMM; I blame Chancellor Martin. He allowed this fiefdom to exist in the first place. Not there is legitimate confusion about the band's main priorities and governance structure. Well it’s clear that the chancellor allows the band leadership to use its own descretion but it can’t be abused or misused. In this case, I say it’s a misuse of discretion and I can’t get on board. Anytime we are competing for a championship, it should be all hands on deck when it comes to support in my opinion. And that should never be compromised. The prioritization is flawed…how in the hell someone have the nerve to say the football team will be alright without them. Just Crazy…but I’m done, I have ranted enough. Even with Gardner-Webb throwing up restrictions and charging 4-figures for the band to attend?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 18, 2022 10:45:05 GMT -5
We are letting Gardner-Webb succeed if we just get mad and take our instruments home.
Recognize their attempt at gamesmanship but still be wise enough to understand the greater purpose here: a potential conference title for your No. 1 revenue generating sport.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2022 10:51:50 GMT -5
We are letting Gardner-Webb succeed if we just get mad and take our instruments home. Recognize their attempt at gamesmanship but still be wise enough to understand the greater purpose here: a potential conference title for your No. 1 revenue generating sport. I still say if you and other Aggies want to win this gamesmanship thing, cough up the $40k-$45k, and tell the band to suit up and play those first down fanfares, Corporate Thuggin', Velvet Rope, and the Fight Song.
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Post by ohsixrain on Nov 18, 2022 10:58:59 GMT -5
Well it’s clear that the chancellor allows the band leadership to use its own descretion but it can’t be abused or misused. In this case, I say it’s a misuse of discretion and I can’t get on board. Anytime we are competing for a championship, it should be all hands on deck when it comes to support in my opinion. And that should never be compromised. The prioritization is flawed…how in the hell someone have the nerve to say the football team will be alright without them. Just Crazy…but I’m done, I have ranted enough. Even with Gardner-Webb throwing up restrictions and charging 4-figures for the band to attend? Man…if we are to strive for greatness then, do it at one hundred. We let a few technicalities trip us up every time. The band could get the money to go if they really needed it. But like Thrilla said, they just don’t want to go. This is your job and they are on vacation on one the more important days on the job. It shows our inability to adapt and be flexible…mind you, these are the very qualities you are supposed to be instilling in our students in the first place. The logic is just off…the band is tired…AND??? I’m tired and I’m sitting right here at my 9-5. So 2039 is right, those are excuses. If they had not said they couldn’t perform at halftime, would they not still be tired. Again, makes no sense.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Nov 18, 2022 11:39:03 GMT -5
This is one of the adaptations the administration, band leadership, band members, and fans are going to have to make now that we no longer play in a HBCU conference. We all know that bands at HBCUs have a style and culture all their own. The idea of even having "band heads" is foreign to college football fans outside of HBCUs.
To football fans, is seems pretty simple. The band is there to support the football team...like anybody else in the stadium on game day. To band leadership and to the kids who march, the band represents the school and has it's own interests and agenda. They have a limited budget, and very few scholarships...its mostly a volunteer effort by students loyal to the school and each other.
They gonna have to find some common ground.
There has to be a way to support the bands desire to do competitions, special invites, etc...and support the football team for big away games (especially if it's in state) all within a limited budget.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 18, 2022 11:40:48 GMT -5
There has to be a way to support the bands desire to do competitions, special invites, etc...and support the football team for big away games (especially if it's in state) all within a limited budget. That would require better leadership from the administration. Chancellor Martin needs to clarify his expectations.
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Post by tony on Nov 18, 2022 12:09:15 GMT -5
There has to be a way to support the bands desire to do competitions, special invites, etc...and support the football team for big away games (especially if it's in state) all within a limited budget. That would require better leadership from the administration. Chancellor Martin needs to clarify his expectations. The Chancellor HAS clarified his expectations. Every time they ask for funding equivalent to peer institutions he tells them there are other priorities. That’s not going to change because we’re playing for a championship. He doesn’t dislike the band but he doesn’t mind that they’re not there. Are you getting it yet? And no the band does not exist to support the football team. The football team does not exist to support the band. They both exist to support our institution. Saturday would be a perfect opportunity to do that, which is part of the reason that not going when given the opportunity is so disturbing. The fact that the students are too tired to go is ridiculous. I’m saying that as an alumnus. Too tired to put on a uniform, ride a bus, and play for 20 minutes? No show to learn and fix. No outside practices in the cold. Nothing but an opportunity to spend three hours making a stadium full of people wish they could do what you can do. But you’re too tired. Never mind you’re about to rest for a whole semester. Nothing on the schedule the next few months except a parade or two and a show 3 months from now. The fact that playing in the stands is a chore… Funding is the only thing that was said that makes any sense whatsoever. That’s why I keep saying we need to reduce our dependence on scholarships.
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Post by aggiechampd on Nov 18, 2022 12:21:49 GMT -5
I dont blame the BGMM; I blame Chancellor Martin. He allowed this fiefdom to exist in the first place. Now there is legitimate confusion about the band's main priorities and governance structure. You probably should make that clear on Twitter man…because that’s not the perception. And I do agree this is more on the Chancellor. Y’all watched the town hall when he was asked about the band? It’s not high on the priority list. Simple as that. Actions show everything.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 18, 2022 12:23:28 GMT -5
You probably should make that clear on Twitter man…because that’s not the perception. Can't reason with crazy people. lol
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 18, 2022 12:26:29 GMT -5
THIS ISNT ABOUT FUNDING...the band didnt say they didnt have the money!!!!
YOu guys are being distracted by an issue that does not exist
They have the money, they were originally scheduled to make the trip
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Post by The Professor on Nov 18, 2022 12:32:38 GMT -5
THIS ISNT ABOUT FUNDING...the band didnt say they didnt have the money!!!! YOu guys are being distracted by an issue that does not exist They have the money, they were originally scheduled to make the trip It actually is about funding. Your talking about this one game. People are discussing the lack of funding for the band program overall. To include lack of facalities and lack of schlorships. If the band is so important then FUND it. People put money in priorities
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 18, 2022 12:37:57 GMT -5
THIS ISNT ABOUT FUNDING...the band didnt say they didnt have the money!!!! YOu guys are being distracted by an issue that does not exist They have the money, they were originally scheduled to make the trip It actually is about funding. Your talking about this one game. People are discussing the lack of funding for the band program overall. To include lack of facalities and lack of schlorships. If the band is so important then FUND it. People put money in priorities EXCUSES....line speak hahahah The GW game was already programmed for them to attend.... So the money they programmed the beginneing of the year disappeared? So Dr Ruff stole the money? an investigation needs to be launched The school gives the band money, just take half the band to GW...that will be $20K
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Post by 919aggie on Nov 18, 2022 12:38:50 GMT -5
It actually is about funding. Your talking about this one game. People are discussing the lack of funding for the band program overall. To include lack of facalities and lack of schlorships. If the band is so important then FUND it. People put money in priorities EXCUSES....line speak hahahah The GW game was already programmed for them to attend.... So the money they programmed the beginneing of the year disappeared? So Dr Ruff stole the money? an investigation needs to be launched LOL
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