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Fowler
Feb 28, 2023 0:33:10 GMT -5
Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 28, 2023 0:33:10 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 28, 2023 19:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 28, 2023 22:08:26 GMT -5
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Fowler
Mar 2, 2023 12:14:36 GMT -5
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Mar 2, 2023 12:14:36 GMT -5
I pray that El DeBarge gets a shot. There are a variety of professional options for the young man, and I believe that his size, IQ, arm strength, and definitely heart (remember he finished the '21 campaign with broken bones and started the '22 campaign as a back-up) to be a pro. Prayers up for El! Chico or El DeBarge? LOL My bad! Definitely Chico!
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Fowler
Mar 2, 2023 12:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Mar 2, 2023 12:16:01 GMT -5
So does say anything about our previous coaching staff and under utilizing talent? Yep. I think a large majority on the boards "been done said that!"
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Post by ohsixrain on Mar 2, 2023 18:28:38 GMT -5
So does say anything about our previous coaching staff and under utilizing talent? Yep. I think a large majority on the boards "been done said that!" Absolutely...also, and not being flexible enough to adjust their system to his skill set. At times, we were thinking he was a scrub but, it was the system they had him in. I'm not saying the system was bad either, it just didn't suit his skill set.
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 3, 2023 10:25:47 GMT -5
I think they recruited him with the mindset that they could make him fit what they wanted to do. Kinda like that chic who sees you and thinks "I can change him." She should've let you be the dude you already was. They shoulda fit the plays around him. One man's opinion.
He'd have been lethal under that coach at FAMU.
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Fowler
Mar 3, 2023 12:13:03 GMT -5
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Post by saabman on Mar 3, 2023 12:13:03 GMT -5
I think they recruited him with the mindset that they could make him fit what they wanted to do. Kinda like that chic who sees you and thinks "I can change him." She should've let you be the dude you already was. They shoulda fit the plays around him. One man's opinion. He'd have been lethal under that coach at FAMU. That is FACT cousin . I have been saying and telling everyone that from the day Chico became the starter and before then . The system is what made Chico look wacky . Even when people wrote him off I said that he was our best opinion and he had a place on A&T's team . But the OC finally came around and stated call plays that fit Chico's skill set and the rest was history.
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Fowler
Mar 3, 2023 14:11:39 GMT -5
Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 3, 2023 14:11:39 GMT -5
sorry, but i don't share the same sentiment as most of ya'll. an all star game is not the best competition to judge a player's true talent. pretty difficult to "game plan" for an individual when you don't know what kind of offense or defense the opposing team will be playing. i mean, it ain't like the coaches of all star teams can study team film on their opponents for pregame preparation and vice versa.
however, you really get to see the "true colors" of an individual player when an opponent can "game plan" for that individual which is what happens during the regular season. i think fowler looked good in the all star game based on the clips i saw. but my overall opinion of his abilities have not changed as a result of that one all star game.
i think it is "unfair" to imply that fowler was misused at a&t just because of fowler's all star performance. i mean, fowler's skillset is very similar (not the exact same) as raynard's but raynard performed far better. yet, nobody ever accused raynard of being "misused" by our coaches. nobody ever accused "any" of our starting qb's during the broadway/washington eras of being "misused". so is fowler the only one "allegedly" that was misused? i don't think fowler was "misused" at a&t...
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 3, 2023 14:48:51 GMT -5
Raynard and Fowler with the same skill set?
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I needed that. Rough day today.
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Mar 3, 2023 15:15:24 GMT -5
Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 3, 2023 15:15:24 GMT -5
"similar" and "same" ain't synonyms...
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Post by saabman on Mar 3, 2023 17:25:53 GMT -5
sorry, but i don't share the same sentiment as most of ya'll. an all star game is not the best competition to judge a player's true talent. pretty difficult to "game plan" for an individual when you don't know what kind of offense or defense the opposing team will be playing. i mean, it ain't like the coaches of all star teams can study team film on their opponents for pregame preparation and vice versa. however, you really get to see the "true colors" of an individual player when an opponent can "game plan" for that individual which is what happens during the regular season. i think fowler looked good in the all star game based on the clips i saw. but my overall opinion of his abilities have not changed as a result of that one all star game. i think it is "unfair" to imply that fowler was misused at a&t just because of fowler's all star performance. i mean, fowler's skillset is very similar (not the exact same) as raynard's but raynard performed far better. yet, nobody ever accused raynard of being "misused" by our coaches. nobody ever accused "any" of our starting qb's during the broadway/washington eras of being "misused". so is fowler the only one "allegedly" that was misused? i don't think fowler was "misused" at a&t... Come on now OSA .Raynard had a talented team around him on both sides of the ball . No one said he was "misused" because he had talented players surrounding him in a conference that focused more on talent and less on the X and O of positioning that Talent . Look at the team that surrounded Raynard from the line , Receivers to RB . Now look at what Chico (Fowler) hand surrounding him . Fowler's must consistent receiver was hurt, best running back played hurt most of the season, inconsistent play calling by the OC , receiver and offensive line play and don't let me get started on the defensive side of the ball . Hell I have never been a Chico fan, because I could see that it was the system along with all of the above Fast forward to this year. Better O line play , better running game , Backs,TE and Receivers were more consistent and integrated into the passing game and play calling became more tailored to Chico's skill set as a pocket passer not an RPO QUARTERBACK. Anytime you try to make a player fit a system and not fit the system around the quarterbacks skill set. You are misusing that QB's talent and skill set. Come on now . Also let me say this anytime a TE that was Barely Used in our offense can transfer and receive a scholarship from LSU that should tell you something right there about the misuse of our talent . What did LSU see that we couldn't see .
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 3, 2023 17:41:50 GMT -5
sorry, but i don't share the same sentiment as most of ya'll. an all star game is not the best competition to judge a player's true talent. pretty difficult to "game plan" for an individual when you don't know what kind of offense or defense the opposing team will be playing. i mean, it ain't like the coaches of all star teams can study team film on their opponents for pregame preparation and vice versa. however, you really get to see the "true colors" of an individual player when an opponent can "game plan" for that individual which is what happens during the regular season. i think fowler looked good in the all star game based on the clips i saw. but my overall opinion of his abilities have not changed as a result of that one all star game. i think it is "unfair" to imply that fowler was misused at a&t just because of fowler's all star performance. i mean, fowler's skillset is very similar (not the exact same) as raynard's but raynard performed far better. yet, nobody ever accused raynard of being "misused" by our coaches. nobody ever accused "any" of our starting qb's during the broadway/washington eras of being "misused". so is fowler the only one "allegedly" that was misused? i don't think fowler was "misused" at a&t... Come on now OSA .Raynard had a talented team around him on both sides of the ball . No one said he was "misused" because he had talented players surrounding him in a conference that focused more on talent and less on the X and O of positioning that Talent . Look at the team that surrounded Raynard from the line , Receivers to RB . Now look at what Chico (Fowler) hand surrounding him . Fowler's must consistent receiver was hurt, best running back played hurt most of the season, inconsistent play calling by the OC , receiver and offensive line play and don't let me get started on the defensive side of the ball . Hell I have never been a Chico fan, because I could see that it was the system along with all of the above Fast forward to this year. Better O line play , better running game , Backs,TE and Receivers were more consistent and integrated into the passing game and play calling became more tailored to Chico's skill set as a pocket passer not an RPO QUARTERBACK. Anytime you try to make a player fit a system and not fit the system around the quarterbacks skill set. You are misusing that QB's talent and skill set. Come on now . Also let me say this anytime a TE that was Barely Used in our offense can transfer and receive a scholarship from LSU that should tell you something right there about the misuse of our talent . What did LSU see that we couldn't see . The elephant in the room is that Raynard had a better OC and played in the MEAC not BSC. Fowler played two seasons against teams that made the playoffs and won games. In 21 Fowler played againse KSU whome won a playoff game and Monmouth who won the conference the year prior. 22 Fowler played against NDSU and GW whom both won playoff games, dont forget NCCU which won the Celebration Bowl. Tough to compare... Personally, I believe the 2022 team had the better Oline, WRs and equal talent at the RB position. However, we played a tougher schedule and were outcoached by NCCU and GW.
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Fowler
Mar 3, 2023 19:34:19 GMT -5
Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 3, 2023 19:34:19 GMT -5
sorry, but i don't share the same sentiment as most of ya'll. an all star game is not the best competition to judge a player's true talent. pretty difficult to "game plan" for an individual when you don't know what kind of offense or defense the opposing team will be playing. i mean, it ain't like the coaches of all star teams can study team film on their opponents for pregame preparation and vice versa. however, you really get to see the "true colors" of an individual player when an opponent can "game plan" for that individual which is what happens during the regular season. i think fowler looked good in the all star game based on the clips i saw. but my overall opinion of his abilities have not changed as a result of that one all star game. i think it is "unfair" to imply that fowler was misused at a&t just because of fowler's all star performance. i mean, fowler's skillset is very similar (not the exact same) as raynard's but raynard performed far better. yet, nobody ever accused raynard of being "misused" by our coaches. nobody ever accused "any" of our starting qb's during the broadway/washington eras of being "misused". so is fowler the only one "allegedly" that was misused? i don't think fowler was "misused" at a&t... Come on now OSA .Raynard had a talented team around him on both sides of the ball . No one said he was "misused" because he had talented players surrounding him in a conference that focused more on talent and less on the X and O of positioning that Talent . Look at the team that surrounded Raynard from the line , Receivers to RB . Now look at what Chico (Fowler) hand surrounding him . Fowler's must consistent receiver was hurt, best running back played hurt most of the season, inconsistent play calling by the OC , receiver and offensive line play and don't let me get started on the defensive side of the ball . Hell I have never been a Chico fan, because I could see that it was the system along with all of the above Fast forward to this year. Better O line play , better running game , Backs,TE and Receivers were more consistent and integrated into the passing game and play calling became more tailored to Chico's skill set as a pocket passer not an RPO QUARTERBACK. Anytime you try to make a player fit a system and not fit the system around the quarterbacks skill set. You are misusing that QB's talent and skill set. Come on now . Also let me say this anytime a TE that was Barely Used in our offense can transfer and receive a scholarship from LSU that should tell you something right there about the misuse of our talent . What did LSU see that we couldn't see . classic case of "excuses". it ain't like fowler never played against hbcu's and i don't buy the "he didn't have talented players surrounding him" excuse either. his team was in position to win the bsc championship for crying out loud! can't do that without talented players surrounding you. so i stand by my assessment. an all star game is not the best competition to judge a player's true talent. and our te's ain't got nothing to do with this debate. raynard did have an opportunity to play arena ball. let's see what opportunities fowler ends up with...
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Mar 3, 2023 23:46:15 GMT -5
Well β¦ no knock on Raynard but I donβt think he garnered this much attention from the NFL pros. Fowler is close to the prototype NFL pocket passing QB in size and arm strength
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