A&T-roy
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Post by A&T-roy on Dec 3, 2020 23:35:21 GMT -5
Until we get some real deal outside shooters that can score and some guys that can rebound with authority and some guys with more energy and intensity and better coaching, we gone be half azz. I, definitely, see a lack of intensity/desire.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Dec 3, 2020 23:36:50 GMT -5
OMG ....Geez please stop !!! We have 2 starters not playing and the team was up by 16 but it’s gone be a long season !!!! And we 5 games in What 2 starters? Kwe isnt a starter Kwe was not a starter last year....irrespective of whether he starts or not he is gone be on the floor as much as Kam or Harris. Shots the 3 well, we all know he jumps out the gym but most importantly he is a lock down defender he does not have the hands like Kam but ain’t nobody getting by him and he closes out on 3 point shooters as good as anyone I have seen.
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Post by Maxell on Dec 3, 2020 23:59:45 GMT -5
I think we forget we have led or been tied at halftime in 4 of the 5 games. Coach has to learn that the OOC opposing coaches will make more adjustments than he saw in the MEAC. And he will have to be prepared to counter that night in and night out.
I keep forgetting this is year one of being head coach with a full OOC schedule.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Dec 4, 2020 7:42:39 GMT -5
Hey FriscoTxAggie, we do not have any consistent defensive play out of our bigs. They lack hustle and intensity. The Citadel looked like us last year. They had several slams over us.
We don't have any consistent outside shooters other than Cleveland Jr. and he was in la la land last night.
Blowing a 16 point lead is caused by a mixture of things. The main reason was poor coaching, adjustments, lack of timely time outs called, poor defensive play, poor energy, poor shooting, no killer instinct, poor coaching again.
Harris and Kwe will help some, but until we start playing with energy, intensity, grit, toughness and make wide open shots we are still going to be an average D1 team.
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Post by aggierattler on Dec 4, 2020 10:41:46 GMT -5
Hey FriscoTxAggie, we do not have any consistent defensive play out of our bigs. They lack hustle and intensity. The Citadel looked like us last year. They had several slams over us. We don't have any consistent outside shooters other than Cleveland Jr. and he was in la la land last night. Blowing a 16 point lead is caused by a mixture of things. The main reason was poor coaching, adjustments, lack of timely time outs called, poor defensive play, poor energy, poor shooting, no killer instinct, poor coaching again. Harris and Kwe will help some, but until we start playing with energy, intensity, grit, toughness and make wide open shots we are still going to be an average D1 team. We delivered no KILL SHOT last night. I honestly think that the guys thought that we had this one in-the-bag.
Maybe the guys need to go back and look at that Illinois game and watch how the Illini finished us off even though we continued to play hard.
Anyway, it's in my rear-view mirror now. On to Game Six...we'll play better.
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Post by Maxell on Dec 4, 2020 11:06:30 GMT -5
5’10” guards driving into the paint and getting swatted has to stop.
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 4, 2020 11:49:40 GMT -5
5’10” guards driving into the paint and getting swatted has to stop. I agree...I get tired of KAM doing that. Against above avg, athletic and/or taller teams this does not work. Additionally, teams no Kam cant shoot...he had 3 point shots and jumpers he didnt take.
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Post by saabman on Dec 4, 2020 15:12:17 GMT -5
I agree...I get tired of KAM doing that. Against above avg, athletic and/or taller teams this does not work. Additionally, teams no Kam cant shoot...he had 3 point shots and jumpers he didnt take. That happens from lack of coaching but it also could be if they let him do it in practice then Kam thinks he can do the same thing in a game . Kam has no mid range game his only options are a 3 or take it to the basket that ends in a block or missed shot . He doesn't even try to kick or even look for an open teammate. Hopefully he will get better as the season Progressive .
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Post by lobengula on Dec 5, 2020 10:35:52 GMT -5
My advice to Harry is move on. He is not part of coach John's program and that is fine by me. He doesn't fit so let this season pan out and we will play ball elsewhere. I understand your frustration, but I hope that you don't give up at this juncture (so early) in the season. I'm hoping that both of you will hang in there...or at least have a coach's conference to get some clarity.I agree if you are wanted don't blame you for this advice because you are stating the obvious. Really this lost is embarrassing, not excuses for the team. Guys got to put in the work. With a lead like this you are not suppose to lose if anything increase the lead, leave no doubt, but unfortunately this is all well too acceptable by some. Sometimes there comes a time when your give a dam just don't give a dam anymore and you just have to walk on by or walk away.
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Post by Gator on Dec 5, 2020 14:43:29 GMT -5
No living and dying by jumpers and three's!
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Post by saabman on Dec 8, 2020 1:31:56 GMT -5
To me, it came down to this.....The Citadel played SoCon basketball. A&T played MEAC basketball. We have to up our quality of play....it's as simple as that. We would've beaten most MEAC teams tonight with the way we played. The Citadel ain't in the MEAC. The talent is there....I think this game highlights how Coach Jones has to tighten up on his tactical approach. Hey, they is his first year as a head DI coach. He's no finished product. He's gotta make sure he has an idea on how he wants to attack the opposition. I'm disappointed with the loss, but not bent out of shape. However, we have to play a better brand of ball out of conference. I think that's what we're witnessing. The team is learning how to play in the Big South essentially. This stretch of SoCon and Big South games will definitely get us plenty of tape for BS conference play in Jan 2021. I disagree the BS conference is not a half court conference. I would say that the BS style of play is more of a opportunity transition style of play. The BS has a European flavor with the way they use there Big men . They play the high post in or the high post out with the big rotating out to pop the 3 or waiting for the guards to kick the ball out if they don't have the shot . My ? Is what IN THE SANDHILLS DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE MEAC ? The BS is next year the MEAC is now . I must say that I am really disappointed in Coach and his coaching so far . It seems like he has forgotten how to coach and play Aggie Basketball ( and don't give me that BS that we don't have and high Flyers ) because that is just BS . Coach has the players but he is misusing there talent and don't tell me that we do not have any 3 point shooters , because I know that Harry can shoot the 3 . Look Harry is your typical European Big (They shoot 3's) yes we need him on the blocks 4sure but use his talents don't just stick Harry down low . Let Harry be Harry and use his talents because if you don't we may see him in someone else's uniform in the near future.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Dec 8, 2020 10:27:47 GMT -5
Saabman, I am telling you we don't have any "high flyers" and we only possibly have 1 3 point shooter.
I don't see guys slamming like last year. I have not seen a consistent 3 point shooter this year and that includes Jr.
We don't even have any toughness in our bigs. They can't rebound, defend, jump, shoot or high fly.
Saabman, I don't know what games you have been watching but I ain't seen none of this yet.
Harry ain't no consistent 3 point shooter and at best he is still learning the game.
Our coach ain't coaching like I thought he would after his success last year. I have seen 2 teams Charleston and the Citadel cut into our big leads and he never or hardly ever called a timeout
The Jones Boys are not the Jacksons.
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Post by saabman on Dec 8, 2020 11:11:05 GMT -5
Saabman, I am telling you we don't have any "high flyers" and we only possibly have 1 3 point shooter. I don't see guys slamming like last year. I have not seen a consistent 3 point shooter this year and that includes Jr. We don't even have any toughness in our bigs. They can't rebound, defend, jump, shoot or high fly. Saabman, I don't know what games you have been watching but I ain't seen none of this yet. Harry ain't no consistent 3 point shooter and at best he is still learning the game. Our coach ain't coaching like I thought he would after his success last year. I have seen 2 teams Charleston and the Citadel cut into our big leads and he never or hardly ever called a timeout The Jones Boys are not the Jacksons. I can agree with what your assessment on the high Flyers but not on the 3's . Harry is far more consistent from the arch than our guards are and I also feel that the reason you can't see that is because Jones pulls Harry just when he is getting his eye . Even Spencer said in the Stanford game that " Harry is the key " and that he can not understand why Harry does not get more floor time ". Yes would I like to see High Flyers hell yes but that is just Optics . Consistent unselfish play wins games. As Mr Spencer stated A&T gets caught up in shooting 3's to often and away from rotating and working the ball inside. Also say what you want our Guard play is just Terrible it's like it's a competition between Kam and the kid from NCSU to out do each other instead of playing as a unit . If Jones doesn't get his act together we can forget leaving the MEAC with a B-ball Championship and we may end up losing one of our best players just because Jones does not know how to use the Talent that is right before his eyes . You don't pull a kid after hitting a big 3 or pull a player that can score 10 points in 11 minutes of playing time . Jones is sending Harry the wrong message in my opinion. Maybe things will change when we hit MEAC play but we will see .
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