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Post by Aggie One on Jul 28, 2020 17:18:24 GMT -5
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Post by Aggie One on Jul 28, 2020 17:57:16 GMT -5
I don't think we're going to play in the fall or spring. As Hilton alluded to there's little value in burning up a year of eligibility with no post season prize to play for. Crank up the transfer portal. There won't be any stampede to the portal because there just aren't going to be that many options available especially for underclassmen. Before this month is out I believe most of the FCS conferences and a goodly portion of the FBS will decide later on to call it a day especially those that are primarily located in the hardest hit areas of the South, Southwest, and the West Coast. I expect the NCAA to issue one time waivers for all athletes for those schools that opted out of competition early on due to the pandemic sometime this fall. With the exception of our half dozen or so NFL draft grade seniors, I suspect most everyone will stay put and start preparation for 2021 and a brand new athletic neighborhood named the Big South.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 11, 2020 11:48:40 GMT -5
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Post by aggieclt on Aug 12, 2020 17:30:53 GMT -5
Here are my questions.
#1- As it pertains to us/A&T --- based on comments from our AD, the fact that we truly care about the well-being of our Aggie student-athletes and the inability if the NCAA to make wise & timely decisions, is it reasonable to expect to play a 6-game football schedule in March/April 2021 (+ maybe Celebration Bowl or FCS Playoffs) and then turn around and likely play likely eight conference-only Big South football games in fall 2021 with playoffs likely for us after that? That would be 14 games minimum in roughly 9 months, right?
#2 - Should the MEAC lay back and wait before implementing a spring plan & schedule or should the conference be working on that right now? After all, if you fail to plan, plan on failing...
#3 - Do we honestly & truly know more much more now than we did in, say, May of this year about COVID-19?
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Post by saabman on Aug 12, 2020 21:10:45 GMT -5
Here are my questions. #1- As it pertains to us/A&T --- based on comments from our AD, the fact that we truly care about the well-being of our Aggie student-athletes and the inability if the NCAA to make wise & timely decisions, is it reasonable to expect to play a 6-game football schedule in March/April 2021 (+ maybe Celebration Bowl or FCS Playoffs) and then turn around and likely play likely eight conference-only Big South football games in fall 2021 with playoffs likely for us after that? That would be 14 games minimum in roughly 9 months, right? #2 - Should the MEAC lay back and wait before implementing a spring plan & schedule or should the conference be working on that right now? After all, if you fail to plan, plan on failing... #3 - Do we honestly & truly know more much more now than we did in, say, May of this year about COVID-19? 1. HALE NO 2. HALE TO THE NO 3. HALE NO × 3 this virus continues to mutate . We are no were close to knowing what to do about this virus. But one thing that we do know is the cities and states that shutdown are the one with less community spend and are able to progressively open up . That is what we do know !
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Post by Maxell on Aug 12, 2020 21:36:01 GMT -5
Here are my questions. #1- As it pertains to us/A&T --- based on comments from our AD, the fact that we truly care about the well-being of our Aggie student-athletes and the inability if the NCAA to make wise & timely decisions, is it reasonable to expect to play a 6-game football schedule in March/April 2021 (+ maybe Celebration Bowl or FCS Playoffs) and then turn around and likely play likely eight conference-only Big South football games in fall 2021 with playoffs likely for us after that? That would be 14 games minimum in roughly 9 months, right? #2 - Should the MEAC lay back and wait before implementing a spring plan & schedule or should the conference be working on that right now? After all, if you fail to plan, plan on failing... #3 - Do we honestly & truly know more much more now than we did in, say, May of this year about COVID-19? 1. HALE NO 2. HALE TO THE NO 3. HALE NO × 3 this virus continues to mutate . We are no were close to knowing what to do about this virus. But one thing that we do know is the cities and states that shutdown are the one with less community spend and are able to progressively open up . That is what we do know ! 1. If FCS has championships in the Spring, Yes. If not, why bother. 2. Same as #1 3. Yes. 45 could have prevented much of this.
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Post by aggierattler on Aug 13, 2020 8:42:55 GMT -5
Science, Sanity Win Out Over TantrumsChristine Brennan Columnist USA TODAY August 12, 2020Ohio State and the rest of Big Ten won’t play football this fall.The temper tantrums from the adults were something to behold Monday afternoon. Nebraska’s Scott Frost was going to take his football and run to another playground, perhaps to be joined by Penn State’s James Franklin, Ohio State’s Ryan Day and Michigan’s Jim Harbaugh. Those heroes of the last-minute broadside against knowledge and wisdom revved up a formidable social media brigade until their end run ran right into science and sanity.
Five weeks after the Ivy League canceled football and the rest of its fall sports, the mighty Big Ten did the same. The Big Ten used the word “postponement,” but it’s one and the same. If it’s safe to play sports in the spring, then everyone will be playing in the spring. If it’s not, then, sadly, the year will be lost for hundreds of student-athletes who had the terrible luck of being in college when a global pandemic hit.
Contrary to what the football- loving, mask-hating Twitterverse believes, there is no joy for anyone in this decision. When the Big Ten postpones football, volleyball, field hockey and the like, it’s a horrible day. I’m a Big Ten alum, a proud Northwestern grad, and my sadness reaches far and wide: from the student-athletes and coaches to the administrators who must now try to keep everything together – psychologically, emotionally and financially – as millions and millions of dollars that would have come in during a football season now will not, surely leading some schools to have to eliminate sports and jobs.
It’s brutal. But also necessary, and historic. The Ivy League, the smartest people in the room, knew exactly how to handle playing sports during coronavirus: you can’t. The Big Ten, the conscience of the Power Five, knew too. With so much more on the line, it took the conference a few more weeks to get there. The Big Ten’s western cousin, the Pac-12, naturally followed the Big Ten’s lead, leaving the ACC, the Big 12 and the SEC embarrassingly still standing.
Those three conferences need to answer this question: How many illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths will they accept to have their beloved football in the fall? Is there a number – a total for players, coaches, officials and administrators – that you’ll tolerate for your Saturday kickoffs? Does that number reach double digits?
And what about myocarditis, the inflammation of the heart muscle that has been detected in young athletes who had COVID-19? How many of those cases are acceptable? What about deaths of 18-to-23year-olds caused by a damaged heart?
These are tough questions that require leadership – intelligent, thoughtful leadership – not the outrage and bluster of a rogue, immature coach like Frost, pandering to fans and Twitter blowhards while doing immeasurable damage to whatever national reputation he once had.
The Ivy League was up to the task, obviously. The Mid-American Conference too, and the Mountain West, and UConn, and others. And now, the Big Ten and the Pac-12.
Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez said Tuesday that he had “a hollow feeling.” But that didn’t stop him from also saying this: “Sports are simply different from other campus activities. There is no way to preserve physical distancing during competition, and masking can make competition very difficult.”
It’s just good old-fashioned Midwestern common sense. So why the cacophony of dissent? Is it perhaps not love of football, but love of one’s political career? There is something very wrong with people who are angry about the noble decisions these conferences are making. For example, the pathetic political posturing of the Society of the Maskless, led by Rep. Jim Jordan, Gov. Ron De-Santis and Sens. Ben Sasse and Marco Rubio, is reprehensible.
If those so-called leaders had encouraged mask-wearing in March, perhaps we would be in a place to play football in September. But we are not, yet they still can’t see what they did, or how they failed us all, their complaints now simply the background noise of those who have been outwitted, outsmarted and outthought.
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Post by A&T-roy on Aug 13, 2020 14:14:13 GMT -5
Science, Sanity Win Out Over TantrumsChristine Brennan Columnist USA TODAY August 12, 2020Ohio State and the rest of Big Ten won’t play football this fall.The temper tantrums from the adults were something to behold Monday afternoon. Nebraska’s Scott Frost was going to take his football and run to another playground, perhaps to be joined by Penn State’s James Franklin, Ohio State’s Ryan Day and Michigan’s Jim Harbaugh. Those heroes of the last-minute broadside against knowledge and wisdom revved up a formidable social media brigade until their end run ran right into science and sanity.
Five weeks after the Ivy League canceled football and the rest of its fall sports, the mighty Big Ten did the same. The Big Ten used the word “postponement,” but it’s one and the same. If it’s safe to play sports in the spring, then everyone will be playing in the spring. If it’s not, then, sadly, the year will be lost for hundreds of student-athletes who had the terrible luck of being in college when a global pandemic hit.
Contrary to what the football- loving, mask-hating Twitterverse believes, there is no joy for anyone in this decision. When the Big Ten postpones football, volleyball, field hockey and the like, it’s a horrible day. I’m a Big Ten alum, a proud Northwestern grad, and my sadness reaches far and wide: from the student-athletes and coaches to the administrators who must now try to keep everything together – psychologically, emotionally and financially – as millions and millions of dollars that would have come in during a football season now will not, surely leading some schools to have to eliminate sports and jobs.
It’s brutal. But also necessary, and historic. The Ivy League, the smartest people in the room, knew exactly how to handle playing sports during coronavirus: you can’t. The Big Ten, the conscience of the Power Five, knew too. With so much more on the line, it took the conference a few more weeks to get there. The Big Ten’s western cousin, the Pac-12, naturally followed the Big Ten’s lead, leaving the ACC, the Big 12 and the SEC embarrassingly still standing.
Those three conferences need to answer this question: How many illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths will they accept to have their beloved football in the fall? Is there a number – a total for players, coaches, officials and administrators – that you’ll tolerate for your Saturday kickoffs? Does that number reach double digits?
And what about myocarditis, the inflammation of the heart muscle that has been detected in young athletes who had COVID-19? How many of those cases are acceptable? What about deaths of 18-to-23year-olds caused by a damaged heart?
These are tough questions that require leadership – intelligent, thoughtful leadership – not the outrage and bluster of a rogue, immature coach like Frost, pandering to fans and Twitter blowhards while doing immeasurable damage to whatever national reputation he once had.
The Ivy League was up to the task, obviously. The Mid-American Conference too, and the Mountain West, and UConn, and others. And now, the Big Ten and the Pac-12.
Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez said Tuesday that he had “a hollow feeling.” But that didn’t stop him from also saying this: “Sports are simply different from other campus activities. There is no way to preserve physical distancing during competition, and masking can make competition very difficult.”
It’s just good old-fashioned Midwestern common sense. So why the cacophony of dissent? Is it perhaps not love of football, but love of one’s political career? There is something very wrong with people who are angry about the noble decisions these conferences are making. For example, the pathetic political posturing of the Society of the Maskless, led by Rep. Jim Jordan, Gov. Ron De-Santis and Sens. Ben Sasse and Marco Rubio, is reprehensible.
If those so-called leaders had encouraged mask-wearing in March, perhaps we would be in a place to play football in September. But we are not, yet they still can’t see what they did, or how they failed us all, their complaints now simply the background noise of those who have been outwitted, outsmarted and outthought. Of course, no mention of the MEAC & SWAC.
#Smh
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Post by aggierattler on Aug 13, 2020 23:14:38 GMT -5
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 14, 2020 8:04:57 GMT -5
I was looking at CNN last night and Dr. Sanjay Gupta was on and he said it the best. He said, "In mid-March the positive cases were at 5,000 with just less than 200 deaths and we were willing to close down. Now, the numbers are astronomical over 5 million cases with 165k deaths, yet we are steadily trying to open. Something is fundamentally wrong!" That pretty much sums it all up in a nutshell when you begin talking about playing football.
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Post by Aggie One on Aug 14, 2020 13:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by aggierattler on Aug 15, 2020 23:12:25 GMT -5
Duke, Notre Dame’s Silence Stunning
Christine Brennan, Columnist USA TODAY SPORTS August 14, 2020
For 48 hours now, the silence has been deafening from the schools you would least expect to remain quiet about the health and safety of their student- athletes.
After the Big Ten and Pac-12 made the difficult, heartbreaking and correct decision to shut down their fall sports in the midst of a global pandemic, you might have expected to hear right away from, say, Duke, which is ranked four spots below the Pac-12’s Stanford and one below the Big Ten’s Northwestern in the top 10 of the U.S. News & World Report rankings of the best national universities in 2020. Duke would seem to be the type of school that would care about science and knowledge. And if that isn’t enough, there’s always peer pressure from your academic equals, or perhaps just trying to maintain the appearance of being the smartest people in the room.
But no. Duke, prestigious Duke of the ACC, is the one and only school in the U.S. News Top 10 to still be all in for blocking and tackling and having 22 young bodies breathing on and falling all over each other on every down for 3 1⁄ 2 hours on Saturdays this fall as the coronavirus ravages the nation.
Duke has now earned the dubious distinction of being the only national Top-10 academic school to defy science and medicine and try to make a buck – many bucks – playing football. Everyone else is out: in order, Princeton, Harvard, Columbia, MIT, Yale, Stanford, Chicago, Penn and my alma mater Northwestern, as is Johns Hopkins, which is tied for 10th with Duke.
But let’s not pick on that renowned football power Duke alone. Moving down the U.S. News list, at No. 15, we see you, Notre Dame, tied with Vanderbilt. What in the world are you two schools doing, still playing along with the ACC and SEC in this intelligence-denying game of Russian roulette that will be attached to your names for years to come?
Then there’s Conference USA’s Rice, tied with the Ivy League’s Cornell at No. 17. Really, Rice? Football is that important to you? Who knew?
A quartet of ACC schools that should know better – Wake Forest at No. 27, Virginia at No. 28 and Georgia Tech and North Carolina tied at No. 29 – surprisingly haven’t spoken out yet. There’s a theory that an individual school in these hard-headed conferences might be afraid to publicly speak out in favor of the health and safety of their students. (I can’t believe I just wrote that sentence.) If there’s any truth in that, these ACC schools have no excuse, because there are six of them in the U.S. News top 30, counting Notre Dame for football purposes.
In the two days since the Big Ten and Pac-12 exhibited the courage to do the right thing in the face of tremendous financial loss while the Big 12, ACC and SEC trudged on into the treacherous unknown, a lot has happened. On Thursday morning alone, Florida State wide receiver Warren Thompson said on social media that the school is neglecting to respond to COVID-related health issues, while another FSU wide receiver, D.J. Matthews, tweeted “All the lies smh,” after Wednesday night posting that he had tested positive for COVID- 19, then deleting the tweet.
Meanwhile, word from the NCAA’s COVID-19 advisory panel is not good about forging ahead with sports this fall. Dr. Carlos del Rio, an infectious disease specialist at Emory University and a member of the NCAA advisory panel, said this about fall sports in a video conference Thursday: “I feel like the Titanic. We have hit the iceberg, and we’re trying to make decisions of what time we should have the band play.”
Said del Rio: “What’s important right now is we need to control this virus. Not having fall sports this year, in controlling this virus, would be to me the No. 1 priority.”
Dr. Colleen Kraft, also an infectious disease specialist at Emory and a member of the NCAA advisory panel, said she was appreciative of the conferences that have decided to stop fall sports “because that keeps the safety of athletes as the No. 1 priority.”
As for those still moving ahead, she said, “There will be transmissions (of COVID-19) and they will have to stop their games.”
So what is it, Duke, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Rice and the rest of you “academically oriented” schools? Are you going to show some brains and courage and make the right decision to pull the plug on fall sports? Or is the decision going to be made for you?
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Aug 16, 2020 0:09:36 GMT -5
Good article.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 17, 2020 9:49:20 GMT -5
That article should strike a few nerves...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 17, 2020 9:58:47 GMT -5
Dr. Wolfe disagrees. I wonder why the author didn't include him in this article.
Especially since Dr. Wolfe works right there at Duke.
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