saabman
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Post by saabman on Oct 25, 2020 22:45:14 GMT -5
Should they be ? Keys has not hit the field yet . Being a transfer Keys should be ahead or equal to the lineman that are there already, the only thing that may hinder Keys is learning the line terminology and Hot and cold signals .You have to remember that Keys chose them they didn't choose Keys. Keys did this to himself; having been a player transferring in to a program they expect you to know certain things expressly the basic things because they don't have time to do intermediate learning on the Fly . As a graduate student hearing your fall football season is cancelled what would you do? Lol. A guaranteed football season vs a leary spring season hope during your final year is kind've a no brainer decision. You're by all means correct, but hindsighting his decisions is unfair. I am a little concerned, one of our best linemen is struggling on a mediocre FBS squad. Is our quality really that low? Keyes was a stud for us. Keyes problem may not be his fault. Some coaches prefer focusing on the kids that they recruited and that have been there from the start . A graduate Transfer is like a one hit wonder to a mediocre FBS program that must hit everything out of the park when he takes the field.Some coaches just don't care for graduate Transfers at all . Keys should have stayed at A&T and played in the 2021 season as a graduate student. It's not like He didn't have any options it may not have been many but they are options all the same .
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Post by saabman on Oct 25, 2020 22:49:10 GMT -5
There are a lot variables and unknowns here maybe he just picked the wrong school to transfer to You hit the nail on the head . From the information I got about that team Keys is not the only graduate Transfer that is struggling in their system .
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Post by saabman on Oct 25, 2020 23:01:11 GMT -5
So? You have not given a better explanation. Most of what is posted is pure conjecture. Why did he choose to leave? He obviously assumed that he was prepared to start for that university. Did he investigate whether or not he could easily replace any of their existing linemen? Who advised him on the decision to make the move? And why did he select that program? Folks are questioning the physical training/conditioning of our athletes. Do you or anyone have first hand knowledge about the program and how it is run? If so, why not address the concerns with Athletics and the coaching staff. You gentlemen your make a Dust up out of nothing. Dude just picked the wrong program. This has nothing to do with the strength and conditioning coach this has to do with a player coming in a new system . Look at there system coaches come and go for all types of reasons so don't start throwing BS about why a coach moved on or stayed on . Keys made his own bed .
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Oct 25, 2020 23:53:11 GMT -5
Sabb, Go back and read carefully what was written. There is no mention of a coach or coaches moving or staying. Some fans have questioned whether strength and conditioning is up to standards. The post is asking , if people are questioning whether the program is doing a poor job, then those folks should direct their concerns to the coaches or Hilton. The program may or may not not have any problems at all.
As for young Mr. Keys. He made the decision to transfer. His physical preparation for the transfer was up to him and perhaps his advisers, if he had any. He may have sought advice from coaches, family members, teammates or fans, but the final decision would have had to be made by him. That as you correctly stated is on him. I'm finished with this subject.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 26, 2020 6:11:36 GMT -5
So? You have not given a better explanation. Most of what is posted is pure conjecture. Why did he choose to leave? He obviously assumed that he was prepared to start for that university. Did he investigate whether or not he could easily replace any of their existing linemen? Who advised him on the decision to make the move? And why did he select that program? Folks are questioning the physical training/conditioning of our athletes. Do you or anyone have first hand knowledge about the program and how it is run? If so, why not address the concerns with Athletics and the coaching staff. You gentlemen your make a Dust up out of nothing. Dude just picked the wrong program. This has nothing to do with the strength and conditioning coach this has to do with a player coming in a new system . Look at there system coaches come and go for all types of reasons so don't start throwing BS about why a coach moved on or stayed on . Keys made his own bed . You believe that if you want, I watched Keys first game and he was man handled by a kid from liberty and he was playing right tackle. The kid isn’t ready for FBs football from a strength perspective.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 26, 2020 7:10:05 GMT -5
So? You have not given a better explanation. Most of what is posted is pure conjecture. Why did he choose to leave? He obviously assumed that he was prepared to start for that university. Did he investigate whether or not he could easily replace any of their existing linemen? Who advised him on the decision to make the move? And why did he select that program? Folks are questioning the physical training/conditioning of our athletes. Do you or anyone have first hand knowledge about the program and how it is run? If so, why not address the concerns with Athletics and the coaching staff. Our head strength and conditioning coach was let go after all our success, let that sink in.... Cedric Walthaw was not fired from A&T. He left on his own accord. Please stop spreading misinformation.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 26, 2020 7:36:56 GMT -5
Our head strength and conditioning coach was let go after all our success, let that sink in.... Cedric Walthaw was not fired from A&T. He left on his own accord. Please stop spreading misinformation. So he quit before getting fired my bad
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 26, 2020 8:44:53 GMT -5
He was not getting fired. If anything, he was getting overworked here at A&T.
I spoke with people inside the athletic department and they all speak highly of him. From what I was told, the GC job allowed him to have more flexibility and spend more time with his family.
Why are you just making things up when you dont have a clue about the situation?
That is not fair to anybody involved.
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Post by saabman on Oct 26, 2020 16:17:09 GMT -5
You gentlemen your make a Dust up out of nothing. Dude just picked the wrong program. This has nothing to do with the strength and conditioning coach this has to do with a player coming in a new system . Look at there system coaches come and go for all types of reasons so don't start throwing BS about why a coach moved on or stayed on . Keys made his own bed . You believe that if you want, I watched Keys first game and he was man handled by a kid from liberty and he was playing right tackle. The kid isn’t ready for FBs football from a strength perspective. That's on Keys not the conditioning program . The program has produced 4 NFL caliber athletes with all four starting at one time . One Transfers out and gets his hat handed to him and all of a sudden some are questioning the strength and conditioning program . Dude F-Up and it's on him to deal with it
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Post by saabman on Oct 26, 2020 16:18:40 GMT -5
Cedric Walthaw was not fired from A&T. He left on his own accord. Please stop spreading misinformation. So he quit before getting fired my bad Do you know that 4sure . If you have some inside information please share with the rest of us .
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Oct 26, 2020 16:40:38 GMT -5
So he quit before getting fired my bad Do you know that 4sure . If you have some inside information please share with the rest of us . You are on the right page and so is Thrilla. If there is no indisputable evidence of a poorly managed program, we should not speculate about what we think is going on in the program. That could be damaging to the coaching staff and administrators.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Mar 23, 2022 12:53:48 GMT -5
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Post by The Professor on Mar 25, 2022 11:03:14 GMT -5
How much eligibility does he have ? He's on 3rd school. This must be his last year
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