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Post by saabman on Nov 2, 2011 23:08:55 GMT -5
OK again I ask WHY CAN'T THE Communication and Broadcasting majors DO THE GAME ANNOUNCEMENTS AND ANY OTHER MEDIA WORK related to A&T athletics??. You have a untapped resources right their on Campus. BUT YOU CONTINUE TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH WHY . A LOT OF OTHER SCHOOLS USE THEIR COMMUNICATION/BROADCASTING MAJORS WHY CAN'T WE ?? A&T SHOULD BE LEADING BUT WE CONTINUE TO LAG BEHIND. LOOK WE HAVE A RESOURCE, THAT WILL NOT COST THE SCHOOL A DIME!!! NOT ONE RED CENT OTHER THEN TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM THE GAME OR GAS MONEY OR MAYBE A HOTEL ROOM. HELL MOST STUDENTS WOULD DO THAT FOR FREE. BUT WE CONTINUE WITH THIS RHETORIC BACK AND FORTH ABOUT PAYING SOMEONE TO CALL AGGIE SPORTS. MIKE TINICO & BOB COSTAS BOTH STATED THEIR BROADCASTING CAREER DOING SYRACUSE UNIV. SPORTS. NOW CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY WE CAN NOT DECIDE TO DO THE SAME???
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 3, 2011 8:10:50 GMT -5
The students already do a weekly coaches show with Rod Broadway.
I do not think they are a viable option to do live radio broadcasts because that is a difficult, highly-skilled job that requires a lot of preparation. You have to know the intricate details of the games and have a full knowledge of both teams and their history. That is not something that you can just ad lib and still sound professional.
We currently are using former A&T SID Donald Ware to broadcast our football games on radio stations outside of Greensboro so it might just be a good idea to carry him on 90.1 as well next year.
That would be the most simple solution in my opinion.
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Post by aggiebred09 on Nov 3, 2011 8:47:03 GMT -5
\ I do not think they are a viable option to do live radio broadcasts because that is a difficult, highly-skilled job that requires a lot of preparation. You have to know the intricate details of the games and have a full knowledge of both teams and their history. That is not something that you can just ad lib and still sound professional. Thrilla, lets be real.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 3, 2011 11:48:27 GMT -5
\ I do not think they are a viable option to do live radio broadcasts because that is a difficult, highly-skilled job that requires a lot of preparation. You have to know the intricate details of the games and have a full knowledge of both teams and their history. That is not something that you can just ad lib and still sound professional. Thrilla, lets be real. actually, thrilla is 100% correct. broadcasting football games isn't as simple as a lot of us think. broadcasters have to do a lot of research on each opposing team, their coaches, their school, and our team and coaches as well. they've got to have full knowledge of each team's primary players, their backgrounds, their strengths and weaknesses, etc. they must also have "in depth" knowledge of all the rules and regulations of football which is rather extensive. they must have a thorough understanding of all defensive and offensive schemes. ya can't just take a student who happens to be a big football fan and turn them into a professional football broadcaster on the fly. for example, ever wonder why jay walker (espnu analyst) has maintained a high profile broadcasting hbcu football games? its because he has a ton of experience, he played qb at an hbcu (howard) and in the pro's, and he's extremely knowledgeable of both offensive and defensive football. plus, he can tell you anything you want to know about any hbcu that he covers and that's because he does extensive homework, studying film and media guides to become very acquainted with each team he covers. so he doesn't sit down on game day and just free lance it. instead, he does a lot of research and preparation for each game. i'm not saying our students aren't capable of doing the job, i'm just saying its not as simple as a lot of us think. plus, by using students, typically we'd have to replace our crew every 2 or 3 years upon graduation. i would think it would be in our best interest to have a crew that we don't have to keep replenishing every 2 to 3 years or so...
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Post by oldschool on Nov 3, 2011 12:45:53 GMT -5
actually, thrilla is 100% correct. broadcasting football games isn't as simple as a lot of us think. broadcasters have to do a lot of research on each opposing team, their coaches, their school, and our team and coaches as well. they've got to have full knowledge of each team's primary players, their backgrounds, their strengths and weaknesses, etc. they must also have "in depth" knowledge of all the rules and regulations of football which is rather extensive. they must have a thorough understanding of all defensive and offensive schemes. ya can't just take a student who happens to be a big football fan and turn them into a professional football broadcaster on the fly. for example, ever wonder why jay walker (espnu analyst) has maintained a high profile broadcasting hbcu football games? its because he has a ton of experience, he played qb at an hbcu (howard) and in the pro's, and he's extremely knowledgeable of both offensive and defensive football. plus, he can tell you anything you want to know about any hbcu that he covers and that's because he does extensive homework, studying film and media guides to become very acquainted with each team he covers. so he doesn't sit down on game day and just free lance it. instead, he does a lot of research and preparation for each game. i'm not saying our students aren't capable of doing the job, i'm just saying its not as simple as a lot of us think. plus, by using students, typically we'd have to replace our crew every 2 or 3 years upon graduation. i would think it would be in our best interest to have a crew that we don't have to keep replenishing every 2 to 3 years or so... I think I understand both arguments pro and con , but the realization is the people we have now don't have any of these qualities. I think its wrong to assume that students aren't capable of learning the craft, and finally Jay Walker does have an extensive HBCU background , but he's not doing all of that by himself. He has a lot of resources that he can use.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 3, 2011 15:55:38 GMT -5
actually, thrilla is 100% correct. broadcasting football games isn't as simple as a lot of us think. broadcasters have to do a lot of research on each opposing team, their coaches, their school, and our team and coaches as well. they've got to have full knowledge of each team's primary players, their backgrounds, their strengths and weaknesses, etc. they must also have "in depth" knowledge of all the rules and regulations of football which is rather extensive. they must have a thorough understanding of all defensive and offensive schemes. ya can't just take a student who happens to be a big football fan and turn them into a professional football broadcaster on the fly. for example, ever wonder why jay walker (espnu analyst) has maintained a high profile broadcasting hbcu football games? its because he has a ton of experience, he played qb at an hbcu (howard) and in the pro's, and he's extremely knowledgeable of both offensive and defensive football. plus, he can tell you anything you want to know about any hbcu that he covers and that's because he does extensive homework, studying film and media guides to become very acquainted with each team he covers. so he doesn't sit down on game day and just free lance it. instead, he does a lot of research and preparation for each game. i'm not saying our students aren't capable of doing the job, i'm just saying its not as simple as a lot of us think. plus, by using students, typically we'd have to replace our crew every 2 or 3 years upon graduation. i would think it would be in our best interest to have a crew that we don't have to keep replenishing every 2 to 3 years or so... I think I understand both arguments pro and con , but the realization is the people we have now don't have any of these qualities. I think its wrong to assume that students aren't capable of learning the craft, and finally Jay Walker does have an extensive HBCU background , but he's not doing all of that by himself. He has a lot of resources that he can use. yes, you're correct on all fronts. and yes, you're correct that our current crew doesn't have all of those qualities. but that's exactly why so many folks are complaining about their poor performance. the one thing they do have is experience. but their communication skills are atrocious and i wouldn't consider their knowledge to be extensive. students may have better communication skills, but i doubt if they have the depth of knowledge required. and unless they've called games live on radio before, i'm certain they don't have the necessary experience either. i think students may work well as interns while learning the ropes from a more experienced broadcaster. and like i mentioned earlier, student broadcasters would have to be replaced every 2 or 3 years. football fans enjoy hearing a voice that they're familiar with who gives them that "family, he's one of us" feel. i think that's one of the reasons our current crew lasted so long. i mean, look at how long woody durham lasted on unc's network. i think we need a broadcaster that's gonna be around for a long time who we can identify as the voice of aggie football. we lose that if we change announcers every 2 or 3 years...
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Nov 3, 2011 16:00:28 GMT -5
I dont think students need to actually be the game analyst but they should be involved in the production aspect and maybe use students to do side line interviews etc.
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Post by saabman on Nov 3, 2011 16:40:16 GMT -5
All I'm saying is just give it a try. Have an open audition and have each student to submit a taped game with them doing the play by play. Have your COMMUNICATION/BROADCASTING Instructors along with a coach are even Broadway himself on the selection committee. A&T could do that in the off season. It not only would open up options for the communication/broadcasting students but also act as a recruiting tool for A&T. And how do we know that a student will not stay if we don't offer him/her the opportunity. But I do feel that we are not using the COMMUNICATION/BROADCASTING Departments resources to it's fullest . You can look at the other schools and see that. It is time for a change and as we have a new coaching change we should have a change in the way AGGIE Sports is presented to the community over the Air Waves.
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Post by Maxell on Nov 3, 2011 19:01:00 GMT -5
All I'm saying is just give it a try. Have an open audition and have each student to submit a taped game with them doing the play by play. Have your COMMUNICATION/BROADCASTING Instructors along with a coach are even Broadway himself on the selection committee. A&T could do that in the off season. It not only would open up options for the communication/broadcasting students but also act as a recruiting tool for A&T. And how do we know that a student will not stay if we don't offer him/her the opportunity. But I do feel that we are not using the COMMUNICATION/BROADCASTING Departments resources to it's fullest . You can look at the other schools and see that. It is time for a change and as we have a new coaching change we should have a change in the way AGGIE Sports is presented to the community over the Air Waves. Your best students can do an adequate job but for football you need a professional broadcaster to market the brand. Donal Ware and his group do very good job on the statewide network.
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Post by saabman on Nov 3, 2011 19:25:01 GMT -5
I'm in Texas and I only see and hear what is posted are what is posted on here or the internet stream of a football game. My point is are we utilizing all of the resources that we have at hand ??
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 3, 2011 19:37:27 GMT -5
Should we use students, should we pay, should we get professionals, should we do a pre-game show, should we spend the money, should we .... Hey folks, let's look at the facts: 1. The current announcers are aweful 2. They are not paid 3. They are not professionals 4. They are never going to get any better 5. They should be "retired" at the end of the season
I've hear all the reason why students couldn't announce the game but quite frankly, I'd rather hear a student stumble through the games rather than listen to the current comedy show one more time. I don't want students but I just don't want these guys any more. Hell I'd almost vote to just scrap the whole show and play music during the game rather than listen to those clowns another season. Folks it an embarrassment! These guys are hurting our University's image.
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Post by saabman on Nov 3, 2011 19:58:55 GMT -5
marchingband1969 I feel your pain and I as one have seen and heard Students do play by play and do and out standing job announcing games and doing interviews Texas Tech University for one. Now why can't we give it a shoot.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 3, 2011 21:27:04 GMT -5
i think whether the current crew is replaced with students or professionals is not the most important issue at this juncture. the important thing is to first see that our current crew is replaced. we have almost a full year to worry about who their replacements might be.
but of all the posts i've read on this subject, i don't recall anybody being adamant about keeping our current crew. i think "overwhelmingly" most posters agree they have to go. so first things first, let's see that our current crew is replaced in a respectable matter. i mean, i still luv those guys. they feel like family to me. so we got to do it the right way and see that they leave with dignity.
but as far as who to replace them with? in my opinion, as long as they are competent, articulate, entertaining, speak clearly, has some experience, are "thoroughly" knowledgeable of the game, will be there for the long haul, preferably a "qualified" alum (but not mandatory) or even a student if fully qualified, i'd be satisfied...
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Post by saabman on Nov 3, 2011 21:38:05 GMT -5
OSA: The crew may yet be able to save face by changing their approach to their over all casting. It has been done before and they do have time to change things up. Wouldn't you say
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Post by DOOMS on Nov 4, 2011 7:04:01 GMT -5
Why is this a two-page long debate in a thread entitled "suggestions for Earl Hilton?"
Make the dam suggestion and move on. There's like three other threads out here where you can complain.
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