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Post by DOOMS on Aug 30, 2011 8:55:42 GMT -5
I'm with westcoast. Big deal, he complained about the trainers.
First of all, it doesn't surprise me. I knew he'd be frustrated and from what I'd heard about his demeanor, he wouldn't shy away from openly and artfully stating his frustrations. That shouldn't surprise anybody that's been paying attention. I told thrilla I wouldn't be shocked if he just told us to go directly to hell after putting up with us for about three years if the infrastructure hadn't improved. Homeboy has options, and his love of money is far greater than any affinity he has for Ayantee.
Broadway isn't going to hold his tongue on any issue except his roster and plans. Dude's way more fiery than Hayes was on his most flaming day. He knows his name is the one next to all those Ws and Ls (mostly Ls this year) and he takes that seriously.
I might be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, but I don't fault him for this one. He's not going to be sitting there looking stupid after the game like Coach Lee was when they snatched all his players right before the game. He's going to let somebody else look stupid.
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Post by Aggie77 on Aug 30, 2011 9:01:09 GMT -5
Wait a minute now...let's put it in perspective. I have no opinion whether he should have said it in the press or not. My thinking is, he's putting it out there so people will know why his team isn't where he expects it to be whether that be due to injury or whatever. When he begins to field questions as to why they didn't win or what happened...you have a piece of it already. Now, I will be the first to say, I'm no doctor....but, unless having cramps is a medical condition, this is the first time in my life of hearing that players have been held out of practice for weeks at a time. Correct me if I'm wrong but, don't cramps and football go together like babies and pacifiers? I think we tend to mix apples and oranges alot around here. As I am sympathetic of the tragic losses our department experienced with those two young men, but let's be honest. We had compliance issues as a department. Had we been in compliance we wouldn't be discussing Broadway's comments. We cannot have it all guys...our Athletic department has made this bed for us to lie in, not Broadway. I'm almost sure if a kid has a medical issue that causes him to cramp more than usual, then that would be a different story. If that's true in our case...what's the probability that 5 kids have the same condition on our team? Why hasn't this condition come to the forefront? I just think we should allow the man to do his work...but in doing so, no one said it would pretty or nice. Couples of things: Cramps, that's Coach Broadway's story, truth or fiction? We don't know and should we know. This needs to be squashed. Coach Broadway knew what he was getting into. This is now his bed also, so he should get comfortable, and work towards a solution. This press conference stunt ain't helping him or the team. If the words come out of his mouth "we loss because of, scholarships, the administration, cramps, compliance, or any other excuse you that you kinda eluded to, then we have made a horrible, horrible mistake, because again, he knew the situation. Lashing out at the training staff on the eve of your inaugural season at the first press conference of the season, really, c‘mon man, that a tad off center to me. This thing ain't gonna get fixed overnight and if he's feeling the pressure already, then he might not make through the season. Is their video/audio of this?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 30, 2011 9:08:16 GMT -5
The news stations and A&T TV studio were filming the whole thing.
I had my digital camera but the battery was dying.
Usually the SID office has the video from the press conference up on ncataggies, but they might decide to edit this week's broadcast. LOL
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Post by Aggie77 on Aug 30, 2011 9:09:36 GMT -5
I'm with westcoast. Big deal, he complained about the trainers. First of all, it doesn't surprise me. I knew he'd be frustrated and from what I'd heard about his demeanor, he wouldn't shy away from openly and artfully stating his frustrations. That shouldn't surprise anybody that's been paying attention. I told thrilla I wouldn't be shocked if he just told us to go directly to hell after putting up with us for about three years if the infrastructure hadn't improved. Homeboy has options, and his love of money is far greater than any affinity he has for Ayantee. Broadway isn't going to hold his tongue on any issue except his roster and plans. Dude's way more fiery than Hayes was on his most flaming day. He knows his name is the one next to all those Ws and Ls (mostly Ls this year) and he takes that seriously. I might be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, but I don't fault him for this one. He's not going to be sitting there looking stupid after the game like Coach Lee was when they snatched all his players right before the game. He's going to let somebody else look stupid. Yeah, but how does this help him, the team or the University? Public criticism of one of his chief resources and stakeholders doesn't help under the current cloud. There are two sides. If you were on the training staff and you were right, would you go out of way to help this kind of guy?
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Post by DECKS on Aug 30, 2011 9:11:24 GMT -5
Is this really as big a deal that we are making this out to be? From my understanding, coaches at ALL levels complain about players being held out for "cramps" both in private and in public. To me, this really isn't as big of an issue as it seems. Even if those players were in practice, we would still have the same problems we've been having. I just don't see the need to overreact about those comments, yet. I agree. Right or wrong, Broadway is a coach who says what's on his mind. Most great coaches are hell for college administrations to deal with and he's no exception. Gotta take the good with the bad. Keep it moving folks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 9:15:06 GMT -5
I'm with westcoast. Big deal, he complained about the trainers. First of all, it doesn't surprise me. I knew he'd be frustrated and from what I'd heard about his demeanor, he wouldn't shy away from openly and artfully stating his frustrations. That shouldn't surprise anybody that's been paying attention. I told thrilla I wouldn't be shocked if he just told us to go directly to hell after putting up with us for about three years if the infrastructure hadn't improved. Homeboy has options, and his love of money is far greater than any affinity he has for Ayantee. Broadway isn't going to hold his tongue on any issue except his roster and plans. Dude's way more fiery than Hayes was on his most flaming day. He knows his name is the one next to all those Ws and Ls (mostly Ls this year) and he takes that seriously. I might be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, but I don't fault him for this one. He's not going to be sitting there looking stupid after the game like Coach Lee was when they snatched all his players right before the game. He's going to let somebody else look stupid. Yeah, but how does this help him, the team or the University? Public criticism of one of his chief resources and stakeholders doesn't help under the current cloud. There are two sides. If you were on the training staff and you were right, would you go out of way to help this kind of guy? What coach that wants to win isn't going to complain about players being held out? Besides, I haven't seen an article in the News & Record about Coach Broadway complaining about "cramps". Are we sure that this is going to get out to the public?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 30, 2011 9:21:17 GMT -5
I was the only one who asked a follow-up question about the cramps comment.
Jeff Mills from the News & Record was there but he didn't seem interested in pursuing the Broadway vs. the Trainers angle. I think he is going to write an article that is more about Broadway's first game at A&T.
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Post by aggie2ru on Aug 30, 2011 9:24:03 GMT -5
It's bout to get "Funky" all up in here......."Funky B". Fasten ur seatbelts thars a NEW sheriff in town. It's ON like a pot of moma's neck bones. Ummmmmmmm, shake 'em up, shake 'em up!!!!
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Post by Aggie77 on Aug 30, 2011 9:25:33 GMT -5
Is this really as big a deal that we are making this out to be? From my understanding, coaches at ALL levels complain about players being held out for "cramps" both in private and in public. To me, this really isn't as big of an issue as it seems. Even if those players were in practice, we would still have the same problems we've been having. I just don't see the need to overreact about those comments, yet. I think Coach Broadway made it a big deal. If players at all levels are held out, and coaches complain about it (though I don't recall hearing about this issue), that would make it common place an not a discussion item at your very first football press conference. The issue is not the cramps or the players, it's the training staff. This passive aggressive (is it passive aggressive) approach of whining through the media is childish at the very least and no benefit to getting resolution to the issue. Is there an adult in the room that can squash this.
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Post by Aggie77 on Aug 30, 2011 9:40:15 GMT -5
Yeah, but how does this help him, the team or the University? Public criticism of one of his chief resources and stakeholders doesn't help under the current cloud. There are two sides. If you were on the training staff and you were right, would you go out of way to help this kind of guy? What coach that wants to win isn't going to complain about players being held out? Besides, I haven't seen an article in the News & Record about Coach Broadway complaining about "cramps". Are we sure that this is going to get out to the public? What coach that wants to win isn't going to complain about players being held out?1st, I have never met a coach that didn't want to win. 2nd, I have never met a coach that didn't complain. You do understand that our situation with our training staff is different than every other training staff in the nation. My point is Coach Broadway's public criticism of our training staff was unnecessary and of no benefit to him or the team he coaches. Besides, I haven't seen an article in the News & Record about Coach Broadway complaining about "cramps". Are we sure that this is going to get out to the public? HE WAS AT A PRESS CONFERENCE!
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 30, 2011 9:42:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 9:51:22 GMT -5
What coach that wants to win isn't going to complain about players being held out? Besides, I haven't seen an article in the News & Record about Coach Broadway complaining about "cramps". Are we sure that this is going to get out to the public? What coach that wants to win isn't going to complain about players being held out?1st, I have never met a coach that didn't want to win. 2nd, I have never met a coach that didn't complain. You do understand that our situation with our training staff is different than every other training staff in the nation. My point is Coach Broadway's public criticism of our training staff was unnecessary and of no benefit to him or the team he coaches. Besides, I haven't seen an article in the News & Record about Coach Broadway complaining about "cramps". Are we sure that this is going to get out to the public? HE WAS AT A PRESS CONFERENCE! I understand the dynamic of Milandu's death hanging over the A&T Athletic Department. People were fired and new policies were put in place due to that incident. The health and well-being of the student athletes is and should be paramount. This is an adjustment period for all the new trainers and coaches and they need to work diligently to get on all the same pages. This will be worked out sooner rather than later. I am almost certain that Broadway is working to get all this resolved ASAP along with the AD and trainers. And even though this was said at a press conference with cameras rolling, if no one posts the soundbite to the internet or writes about it in an article, this won't be as public as we think it would be.
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Post by Aggie77 on Aug 30, 2011 9:52:54 GMT -5
Well, he appears to be in a good mood. I can't wait for next week's press conference. Could you please have your batteries charged.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 30, 2011 9:53:48 GMT -5
Again, I have no opinion either way...my thing is, just let him do his thing. I think at A&T they've always kept their coaches in a box and anyone that came along that thought or acted outside that box were consider out-cast. Well if we are saying we have an outcast, we have a proven one or one that has the formula. See, we want a winner that's going to say and do everything we want to hear and see. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. I think everybody here believes Broadway is going to make a winner out of A&T, given the proper time. So, let him do it...sure he may ruffle a few feathers while doing so. But, I think you must give something to get something so....I'll allow it.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Aug 30, 2011 9:58:03 GMT -5
Interestinly enough my high school son had a scrimmage last week. I noticed that one of the ref's had a Grambling alum on his liscene plate as he got out of his car. He told me he played at Grambling and was very involved in athletics.
The guy admitted and said Broadway is a teriffic Coach (recruting, game plan, player development). But he runs a closed door policy and he will step on any toe in the room when it comes to advancing his football team.
This is not the first or last time a Coach has complained about players becoming attached to the training staff. News flash Broadway would say the same thing if there were a press conference today. He is going to keep steping on that toe until you slide it back under the chair.
There nothing chilish about this just and oldschool Coach throwing some weight around. Dooms is correct he is not going to be left looking stupid for any decision regaring HIS football team that was not made by him.
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