saabman
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Post by saabman on Aug 15, 2011 19:26:53 GMT -5
Speed Kills. DECKS I agree with you on that.Now they just have stay injury free and we'll do just fine.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 15, 2011 20:11:59 GMT -5
The only thing we can hope for is to somehow mirror the way TCU played defense last season. They were very undersized for a FBS team, but they all flew around the ball, had a bunch of blitz packages and never missed tackles.
We would have to be fundamentally sound to have any chance of competing on defense. It will be a tremendous longshot and if Broadway can pull it off they need to raise his salary to an even $250K.
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Post by trues on Aug 16, 2011 9:38:03 GMT -5
So how Thrilla I dont think I defense is as bad as you make it to be. We have a sound LB crew if they can run a Eagle 3-4 defense where the LB is inserted in the nose tackle spot we may be able to make up some of the size and speed we dont have on the Line.
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Post by JayBee on Aug 16, 2011 9:44:17 GMT -5
I don't think speed is the problem on the D-line, just beef!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 10:07:16 GMT -5
Mungo has put on some weight since high school and he left Campbell in 2009 and sat out last year. He suited up and participated in the spring game. Good news. Did he play DT at Campbell? He played mostly DE in high school. I'm of the belief that we don't have to have mammoth tackles to control the run. Speed and quickness on the front line along with good lb support can get the job done. I agree. I will also add the use of proper, fundamental tackling. It's a bad Idea to arm tackle and not wrap up the ball carrier especially when you are undersized. |
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Aug 16, 2011 10:08:05 GMT -5
Agree with JayBee. It takes a toll on your linebackers if every tacke they make is by shooting a gap or down field. Its not the so much def lineman make a ton of tackles but they seal gaps and prevent a runner from hitting the whole.
I expect us to blitz a ton; I would expect its going to more detailed blitz packages than just shooting a gap. In other words the formation wont show were the blitz is coming from
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 10:09:56 GMT -5
The only thing we can hope for is to somehow mirror the way TCU played defense last season. They were very undersized for a FBS team, but they all flew around the ball, had a bunch of blitz packages and never missed tackles. We would have to be fundamentally sound to have any chance of competing on defense. It will be a tremendous longshot and if Broadway can pull it off they need to raise his salary to an even $250K. That's exactly how the best teams in the SoCon and CAA do it. Most of those teams are undersized however, they are very disciplined, play fundamentally sound and make very few mental mistakes. |
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Post by Aggie One on Aug 16, 2011 10:20:58 GMT -5
When App State won their last national title and even when they knocked off Michigan, the biggest guy in their starting front four was 6-3 and 275 pounds, The rest where stood just 6-1 to 6-4 and weighed between 240-260 max.
Schemes, speed, conditioning, and top notch coaching have always been their tools for success along with very strong QB play, not just pure size by itself.
The best defenses are rarely the biggest but they are extremely athletic and confuse most QBs with a lot of different looks and motion which creates disruption of the timing at the beginning of the play.
Give me a kid who is physical at 6-1,250 who is quick with strong lateral movement and technically sound in his fundamentals and I will beat the brains out of you and your lumbering 6-6, 380 pound left tackle 8 out of ten plays every single time.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 16, 2011 10:30:52 GMT -5
Gentlemen, I see it like this. With everyone and they mama using the spread now a lighter faster defense isn't a huge deal. We WILL struggle with power running teams though.
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Post by aggiejazz on Aug 16, 2011 10:53:22 GMT -5
When App State won their last national title and even when they knocked off Michigan, the biggest guy in their starting front four was 6-3 and 275 pounds, The rest where stood just 6-1 to 6-4 and weighed between 240-260 max. Schemes, speed, conditioning, and top notch coaching have always been their tools for success along with very strong QB play, not just pure size by itself. The best defenses are rarely the biggest but they are extremely athletic and confuse most QBs with a lot of different looks and motion which creates disruption of the timing at the beginning of the play. Give me a kid who is physical at 6-1,250 who is quick with strong lateral movement and technically sound in his fundamentals and I will beat the brains out of you and your lumbering 6-6, 380 pound left tackle 8 out of ten plays every single time. I don't disagree when it comes to FCS teams. I will add, it takes very good coaching/teaching, smart football players and time. You don't go from zero-to-hero in one season. The very good football defenses that are mentioned are discipline as a unit. You can't have just one or two guys doing what they are suppose to do and the rest clueless. If the defense is weak now, it is going to be pretty much like that this whole season with some improvement by individuals. We can hope after homecoming we will see the improvement. The first 4 (real) games are going to brutally tough, App State, Coastal Carolina, Morgan State and then Bethune Cookman, all before Homecoming against Del State. We all need to pray that there will be enough football players to put on the field by Homecoming. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 16, 2011 11:05:09 GMT -5
We WILL struggle with power running teams though. that’s exactly right. interior speed is “neutralized” when power teams run straight ahead. if we play teams who want to be cute, then yeah, maybe we can run some gimmicks at them. but if we’re playing a “smash mouth” straight ahead bulldozing team, ain’t nothing a d-line that’s light in the butt can do except run blitz and if we do that, we’ll be very vulnerable to play action plays. just my own opinion, there’s no substitute for a strong interior line. yes, there will be times when we can make plays as a result of gimmicks, but we can’t do that for an entire game against a smart opposing coach... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 11:35:57 GMT -5
Thankfully for us, most MEAC teams do not run smash-mouth, I-Formation systems. Most of them run a spread system.
Besides, OL play is suspect in our conference. It doesn't take much to win games in the MEAC. The most disciplined and fundamentally sound teams will win, despite size.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 16, 2011 12:00:09 GMT -5
I think the key is good sound tackling. If you look at the BCU game last year, we missed so many tackles...of course that wouldn't have determined the outcome but, the game could've been something to look at. Last year I thought we had good blitz packages, we just didn't tackle well. Remember, we lost the WSSU game on a missed tackle on a 3rd and long that wound up going all the way down inside our 5 yard line with less than a minute. I must say, that good tackling will not cure all of our ills but, that would be a major step in the right direction. I dare say we can win at least 5 games with good sound tackling and discipline alone.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 16, 2011 12:15:29 GMT -5
with the staff broadway has assembled, i've got to believe our guys will be fundamentally sound and well coached this year. i think we'll be more competitive than a lot of people think. but our interior defense scares me.
i think frisco was right. we don't need dominant d-linemen. just guys who can plug holes and occupy/disrupt o-linemen so that our backers can finish off the rb's. a little penetration from our d-line would be a very big plus too. but as long as our d-line can just hold its own in the trenches, i think we'll be okay. and that's where good coaching comes into play.
through good technique/fundamentals and better strength/conditioning, our d-line can be much more productive than they were last year. and, we got to remember, our d-line were primarily comprised of "freshmem" last year. so if nothing else, they should be more mature, stronger, and more experienced this year. that alone, in addition to better coaching, could make a major difference this season...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 16, 2011 12:21:20 GMT -5
I think the key is good sound tackling. If you look at the BCU game last year, we missed so many tackles...of course that wouldn't have determined the outcome but, the game could've been something to look at. Last year I thought we had good blitz packages, we just didn't tackle well. Remember, we lost the WSSU game on a missed tackle on a 3rd and long that wound up going all the way down inside our 5 yard line with less than a minute. I must say, that good tackling will not cure all of our ills but, that would be a major step in the right direction. I dare say we can win at least 5 games with good sound tackling and discipline alone. Man, I been hollering about the one play for almost a year now. He came up and tried to make the "kill" hit and got juked. All he had to do was break down and stand there. Straight coaching |
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