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Post by blessedaggie84 on Nov 8, 2011 20:55:34 GMT -5
I have been to the "new bandroom" GD does have area to practice as well as CS, its not the best area but in due time i am sure a new music building will come.
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Nov 8, 2011 21:42:53 GMT -5
In regards to the new band center location, as a temporary spot it provides close proximity to Aggie Stadium & the band's practice field. I think if folks are waiting for a new Music Building, it 'prolly wont come until A&T acquires the land behind Frasier hall (colored in purple) which would eventually become "west" Campus... This area is already been earmarked for the new school of nursing, parking lot, intramural field and Middle College Facility, as seen in the image below...
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Nov 8, 2011 21:49:13 GMT -5
Back to the topic at hand, The New Health Center:
After looking at the pdf, I'm excited about what is in the works on the yard, and it's definitely a need for the students. comparing it to what we have in the form of the Sebastian health center, its a huge upgrade.
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Post by Bigboy on Nov 9, 2011 8:37:24 GMT -5
Aggieblues, I just love the GD slide-show ;D!!
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Post by aggiebred09 on Nov 9, 2011 8:53:17 GMT -5
1969, very little of your numbered list is actual facts.....
The Warehouse you are referring to was the Motor sports complex and while the acoustics were crap, there was enough room to accommodate offices for everyone on the band staff as well as some meeting space (unlike Fraizer which the band had to share with the Music Department and the Gospel Choir). The new space was small but larger than Frazier and for the first time the band had a house of their own. A&T Recognized the Motor Sports complex was only a temporary fix and so did the band. The new facility isn't the best, but a huge step from the resources at the bands disposal now compared to what meager accommodations we had in Frazier (Which only had a few practice rooms that in all honesty were just piano class practice rooms that had were being used by the band in the afternoons).
For the past 5 years there have been steps made to move the band to a permanent location on the yard. I think if you look at the spaces being made available, a "warehouse" is the better option to hold 250+ and have room to grow. Correcting acoustics costs thousands if not millions and with the end goal being a facility "on the yard" it would be unwise to overhaul an entire warehouse only to be used at most for 4 years. Not to mention if a space on the yard is found the band would still have to use the "warehouse" for another few years until the space is renovated.
If safety is a concern then have the Aggie Shuttle transport students after practice. I want the band on the yard, but I know the wish list for a building of that size would cost millions. Maybe concerned alumni should start a capital campaign for the band to help contribute to construction costs. Is there a band alumni association? Do they have goals & objectives? Could supporting this effort be their mission?
Health Center, Student Union, Band Room(s), in whatever order. Im happy to see Student Affairs finally being in the forefront of capital expansion.
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Post by scaggie09 on Nov 9, 2011 13:30:28 GMT -5
1969, very little of your numbered list is actual facts..... The Warehouse you are referring to was the Motor sports complex and while the acoustics were crap, there was enough room to accommodate offices for everyone on the band staff as well as some meeting space (unlike Fraizer which the band had to share with the Music Department and the Gospel Choir). The new space was small but larger than Frazier and for the first time the band had a house of their own. A&T Recognized the Motor Sports complex was only a temporary fix and so did the band. The new facility isn't the best, but a huge step from the resources at the bands disposal now compared to what meager accommodations we had in Frazier (Which only had a few practice rooms that in all honesty were just piano class practice rooms that had were being used by the band in the afternoons). For the past 5 years there have been steps made to move the band to a permanent location on the yard. I think if you look at the spaces being made available, a "warehouse" is the better option to hold 250+ and have room to grow. Correcting acoustics costs thousands if not millions and with the end goal being a facility "on the yard" it would be unwise to overhaul an entire warehouse only to be used at most for 4 years. Not to mention if a space on the yard is found the band would still have to use the "warehouse" for another few years until the space is renovated. If safety is a concern then have the Aggie Shuttle transport students after practice. I want the band on the yard, but I know the wish list for a building of that size would cost millions. Maybe concerned alumni should start a capital campaign for the band to help contribute to construction costs. Is there a band alumni association? Do they have goals & objectives? Could supporting this effort be their mission?Health Center, Student Union, Band Room(s), in whatever order. Im happy to see Student Affairs finally being in the forefront of capital expansion. This is what I wanted to ask....Does the band have an actual Alumni Association & can they start a capital campaign with the goal of raising the funds for a new band hall? Hampton is building their New Cafeteria and raising the funds to do it (I know they are private & operate by different guidelines BUT couldn't the same blueprint be followed)
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 9, 2011 18:40:15 GMT -5
1969, very little of your numbered list is actual facts..... The Warehouse you are referring to was the Motor sports complex and while the acoustics were crap, there was enough room to accommodate offices for everyone on the band staff as well as some meeting space (unlike Fraizer which the band had to share with the Music Department and the Gospel Choir). The new space was small but larger than Frazier and for the first time the band had a house of their own. A&T Recognized the Motor Sports complex was only a temporary fix and so did the band. The new facility isn't the best, but a huge step from the resources at the bands disposal now compared to what meager accommodations we had in Frazier (Which only had a few practice rooms that in all honesty were just piano class practice rooms that had were being used by the band in the afternoons). For the past 5 years there have been steps made to move the band to a permanent location on the yard. I think if you look at the spaces being made available, a "warehouse" is the better option to hold 250+ and have room to grow. Correcting acoustics costs thousands if not millions and with the end goal being a facility "on the yard" it would be unwise to overhaul an entire warehouse only to be used at most for 4 years. Not to mention if a space on the yard is found the band would still have to use the "warehouse" for another few years until the space is renovated. If safety is a concern then have the Aggie Shuttle transport students after practice. I want the band on the yard, but I know the wish list for a building of that size would cost millions. Maybe concerned alumni should start a capital campaign for the band to help contribute to construction costs. Is there a band alumni association? Do they have goals & objectives? Could supporting this effort be their mission? Health Center, Student Union, Band Room(s), in whatever order. Im happy to see Student Affairs finally being in the forefront of capital expansion. Thanks for your comments but let me mention a few things. Having "enough offices for the staff" is not the issue. A band needs "practice rooms" designed for students to practice. So the fact that the motor sport warehouse had more rooms for staff offices is not an improvement. I agree with you that both warehouses were bigger than Frazier Hall. But dispite Frazier Hall's small size, it was at least design to accomodate a music program. Let me be clear, I don't want to spend one dime renovating those "leased" warehouses and I don't expect to see a new bigger or better band room tomorrow. But what I would like to see is a plan to have a new band room one day. When I see drawings of 5 or 6 new buildings on campus and no band room I just assume that it is not a University priority.
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Post by The Professor on Feb 14, 2012 2:57:44 GMT -5
And its not. The band outgrew Frazier in the 90's. They only moved do to OSHA.
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Post by krazykev on Feb 14, 2012 11:38:05 GMT -5
And its not. The band outgrew Frazier in the 90's. They only moved do to OSHA. So true
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 14, 2012 12:16:50 GMT -5
Horray, someone is back talking about the facilities for the band. Most of the folks on this site are more sports expertise that band expertise. And most of the folks on this site's view of band facilities are based on what they saw in high school. I understant and accept that.
What most Aggie sports fans miss is it takes a lot more that a "big warehouse space" to make a band facility. To maintain a quality marching band program you need a practice facility with good acoustics and practice rooms for individual practice. The "warehouses" that the A&T Band has been using these past few years have neither. They are converted warehouses...they were not built to accomodate a music program.
Now for the other issue...recruiting. Yes, colleges today have to recruit talented band members just like athletics. An HBCU bands are very aggresive recruiters. So when SCSU or FA&MU offers a talented trumpet player a scholarship and brings them on campus to see their state of the art music facility, that's an easy sell. And here's where A&T loses out. First, we don't have the scholarship funds to offer talented musicians scholarships (Scholarships are an issue for discussion later) plus we bring them to our band facility consists of a leased warehouse off-campus behind Bo Jangles with a gravel parking lot. Get the picture?
Don't get me wrong, the A&T Marching Band is fantastic and despite the deficiencies, has built a world class reputation we all can be proud of. All I'm asking is for someone to include the band program in the University's long range building plans. If we are making plans for new buildings on campus, can you find a way to include a facility for the band?
The A&T Marching Band has been one of A&T's great recruiting programs. When will the University recognize that fact and do something to help them maintain their competitive edge?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 15:53:28 GMT -5
Horray, someone is back talking about the facilities for the band. Most of the folks on this site are more sports expertise that band expertise. And most of the folks on this site's view of band facilities are based on what they saw in high school. I understant and accept that. What most Aggie sports fans miss is it takes a lot more that a "big warehouse space" to make a band facility. To maintain a quality marching band program you need a practice facility with good acoustics and practice rooms for individual practice. The "warehouses" that the A&T Band has been using these past few years have neither. They are converted warehouses...they were not built to accomodate a music program. Now for the other issue...recruiting. Yes, colleges today have to recruit talented band members just like athletics. An HBCU bands are very aggresive recruiters. So when SCSU or FA&MU offers a talented trumpet player a scholarship and brings them on campus to see their state of the art music facility, that's an easy sell. And here's where A&T loses out. First, we don't have the scholarship funds to offer talented musicians scholarships (Scholarships are an issue for discussion later) plus we bring them to our band facility consists of a leased warehouse off-campus behind Bo Jangles with a gravel parking lot. Get the picture? Don't get me wrong, the A&T Marching Band is fantastic and despite the deficiencies, has built a world class reputation we all can be proud of. All I'm asking is for someone to include the band program in the University's long range building plans. If we are making plans for new buildings on campus, can you find a way to include a facility for the band? The A&T Marching Band has been one of A&T's great recruiting programs. When will the University recognize that fact and do something to help them maintain their competitive edge? you're right. considering we only had 1200 fans at the game last night, what da hail do we need a new convocation center for?
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Post by The Professor on Feb 14, 2012 16:26:19 GMT -5
Because Corbett is outdated.
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Post by jwill on Feb 14, 2012 17:06:45 GMT -5
Looking at the appropriated list of future projects at A&T , the expansion and renovation of Fraizer Hall # 23 on the list. Number 1 is the engineering and research building and # 13 is the covocation center. Just what those plans are for Fraizer I cannot determine but there are on the list. If you think that Dr Martin is not aware of whats going on here at A&T I believe you are incorrect but we only get the funds from the state for 1 thing at a time . I am also unhappy at the pace of upgrades but things are being build and planning is being done. Please vote in the upcoming state elections for the people who support us , and stop blaming Harold and company for things beyond his control and budget. Either vote or give the big bucks ourselves these are our options my Aggie friends and alums. -
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 14, 2012 17:55:31 GMT -5
I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I understand that we build and renovate building based on state money being available. I just want the bandroom project to move up the list some. By the way, "the expansion and renovation of Fraizer Hall #23 on the list" doesn't impact the band program. From what I've been told, Frazier Hall cannot be enlarged economically to house the band at it current size. And the fire marshal has stated that the bandroom in Frazier Hall can only accomodate 100 people at a time. If Fazier Hall is on the list to be renovated, it's probably for the Art Department's use.
I don't want to take any money from any other department, just move the band room up the wish list some.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 17:59:45 GMT -5
Because Corbett is outdated. i don't disagree. but its not so outdated that we need a brand new convocation center that will likely seat more than 7,000 folk if we're only having 2,000 folk showing up for games. but i guess we can use it for other things like concerts and commencements. man, i look at famu's beautiful brand new arena with a couple of hundred folk at the game and can't help but think of all of those empty seats. its embarrassing, imo. i would like to have a new convocation center, it certainly would help recruiting. but if we're only gonna have 1200 folk showing up, folk could argue it'll be a waste of money. for less than a million bucks we can replace the upper level bleachers in corbett and be good to go. we could probably use what's left over to build a really nice band room in my opinion...
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