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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 19, 2011 10:36:15 GMT -5
How about just a parking sticker to come and go? You can't park there without one anyways. Bingo!!!! No parking sticker, $10. Easy solution rattler. Sometimes its right in front of our face, lol. They would just have to make an "on-campus" pass and an "off-campus" pass. Off campus passes would still have to pay. nope, i don't think campus parking stickers should be acceptable for "game day" parking across from the stadium. students can park at the dorms if they want, a little walking won't hurt them at all. anybody that feels they need to drive from their dorm to the stadium is simply lazy. and for students living off campus, their parking sticker is intended for attending classes, not for attending football games. everybody should pay whether they are students or not. students don't get free parking at football games at other hbcu's. unless they pay for it, students can't sit in reserved seating can they? so there's nothing wrong with them having to pay for stadium parking as well...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 10:38:35 GMT -5
How about just a parking sticker to come and go? You can't park there without one anyways. Bingo!!!! No parking sticker, $10. Easy solution rattler. Sometimes its right in front of our face, lol. They would just have to make an "on-campus" pass and an "off-campus" pass. Off campus passes would still have to pay. The Off Campus Students who paid $227.00 for their parking pass, which is the same price for residential student passes, should not have to pay $5-10 a game for parking. Other than that, go for it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 10:41:47 GMT -5
Bingo!!!! No parking sticker, $10. Easy solution rattler. Sometimes its right in front of our face, lol. They would just have to make an "on-campus" pass and an "off-campus" pass. Off campus passes would still have to pay. nope, i don't think campus parking stickers should be acceptable for "game day" parking across from the stadium. students can park at the dorms if they want, a little walking won't hurt them at all. anybody that feels they need to drive from their dorm to the stadium is simply lazy. and for students living off campus, their parking sticker is intended for attending classes, not for attending football games. everybody should pay whether they are students or not. students don't get free parking at football games at other hbcu's. unless they pay for it, students can't sit in reserved seating can they? so there's nothing wrong with them having to pay for stadium parking as well... 1. I never met a student that drove from their dorm to the game. 2. It would be unfair to the off-campus student body who paid the same price for their parking pass to have to turn around and pay for parking. IMHO, that is doing more harm then good and will help keep students away from the game.
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Post by Bigboy on Apr 19, 2011 10:44:31 GMT -5
It really does not matter what we all say about the Fan Zone because it's a done deal. If you are a real fan you will buy a ticket to the game which allows you to tailgate also. If you are not a real fan, hey!!!! I have a suggestion. Why not just charge people who just want to tailgate and not go in the game a small fee just to tailgate, say $10 if you have not paid to park on campus or if you paid to park on campus you can enter the fan zone with a parking validation stub.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 19, 2011 10:46:43 GMT -5
nope, i don't think campus parking stickers should be acceptable for "game day" parking across from the stadium. students can park at the dorms if they want, a little walking won't hurt them at all. anybody that feels they need to drive from their dorm to the stadium is simply lazy. and for students living off campus, their parking sticker is intended for attending classes, not for attending football games. everybody should pay whether they are students or not. students don't get free parking at football games at other hbcu's. unless they pay for it, students can't sit in reserved seating can they? so there's nothing wrong with them having to pay for stadium parking as well... 1. I never met a student that drove from their dorm to the game. 2. It would be unfair to the off-campus student body who paid the same price for their parking pass to have to turn around and pay for parking. IMHO, that is doing more harm then good and will help keep students away from the game. but wc, can those same students sit in reserved seating without paying? of course not. but they can sit in reserved seating whenever there's no games going on, just like they can park across the street from aggie stadium when there's no football game going on. they're not being deprived of what they purchased parking passes for and that's to attend classes or stay in the dorms. none of that is being deprived by charging them to park on game day...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 19, 2011 11:07:10 GMT -5
i think the fan zone will hurt paying customers more than those who come just to tailgate. for those who come just to tailgate, they simply won't come anymore once the fan zone fee is imposed. it "will not" force them to purchase game tickets. when your football record over the last 7 years is 14-62, who is gonna purchase $30 football tickets to watch a losing team other than diehards? ain't "nobody" gonna pay $30 just to socialize.
the only thing the fan zone will do is drastically diminish the aggie game day atmosphere. for those who come just to tailgate, they simply won't come anymore instead of being forced to pay $30. but for those of us who always pay, our game day atmosphere will be like a ghost town!
since our team seldom wins games, as a season ticket holder, my tickets will be drastically devalued. i will no longer enjoy a festive tailgate environment because a lot of folk will no longer come. so after sitting thru another aggie loss, there's no tailgating consolation for us season ticket holders. at least in the past, the tailgating atmosphere somewhat served as a consolation for those of us who drive many miles to tolerate aggie football losses. but now that that's gonna be destroyed, i guess all we season ticket holders have to look forward to now is the game itself. wow! what a bargain...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 11:41:59 GMT -5
The last time I checked, General Admission, excluding NCCU & Homecoming, were $25 for Adults. All the Game Zone is doing is expanding the entrance to the Game Day Venue. Nothing else changed.
And people were paying $35 dollars for Homecoming Tickets during the Fobbs era so I really doubt this will stop people from paying.
It was a good decision and I don't see a vocal minority of Aggie Fans and Alumni griping about this to the Chancellor.
So it is what it is.
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Post by aggierattler on Apr 19, 2011 11:50:45 GMT -5
The last time I checked, General Admission, excluding NCCU & Homecoming, were $25 for Adults. All the Game Zone is doing is expanding the entrance to the Game Day Venue. Nothing else changed. And people were paying $35 dollars for Homecoming Tickets during the Fobbs era so I really doubt this will stop people from paying.... This is very true...your game tickets are now for the GAME ZONE and not just the stadium. Now, whether or not you choose to enter the stadium is totally up-to-you. If you want to spend your entire time at the tailgate, then go for it. When you go to the movie theatre, each person pays before they enter the lobby. You pick a movie and buy a ticket for it. NOW...nobody watches to see if you went in to see the movie that you purchased a ticket for. Whether you view any movie at all or just stand at the concession stand for two hours makes no difference to the management...as long as you have paid to come into that "zone." It's the same principle.
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Post by trues on Apr 19, 2011 12:41:03 GMT -5
Aggie Monster like I said I get the economy side of it.
Support does not always have to be in the form of money. Take our Tailgate at Homecoming that brings a lot of people including HS kids to the tailgate. But you don't know indirectly how it may effect a H.S. kids who may want to play at A&T by how he view the fans SUPPORTING the TAILGATE and everyone is getting along. Also if you want to gain revenue just charge people $5 to enter the tailgate. That way you not excluding low income families may just want to experience the AGGIE fellowship. I agree with your last statement.
Listen this is in no way affecting me. I get a tailgate spot and I am a season ticket holder. But everyone is not as fortunate as you all are. Don't price yourself out of the PRIDE that Aggies stand for. It's not always about money.
It's just my opinion I realize everyone is going to have a different opinion.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 19, 2011 12:58:48 GMT -5
I think you're on point trues.
With any business there is what's called a "tipping point" wherein you're charging too much for your good or service. For example, when Dee Todd decided to charge $50 for a homecoming ticket some years back, we reached a tipping point that led to the first non-sellout homecoming in the history of the school. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but since then we've had a few more non-sellout homecoming games. Many people have taken the attitude that they can tailgate for free, who needs to go watch us lose? The tipping point was reached with a combination of years of bad football and a mere one-time miscalculation on what the market would bear.
I'm thinking this could lead to another tipping point wherein people won't even bother to come anywhere near campus game day. It's admirable that many of our die-hard posters and Donald Trumps-in-training see no downside to this decision. I just wonder how many folks who ain't die-hard will see this as the last straw and decide to stay home.
I imagine short lines outside the tailgate areas as local folks walk away from the line disgusted once they realize they have to pay to enter the tailgate area. I also imagine ingenious folks just setting up tailgates outside the pay zone. As word gets out, even homecoming will resemble a Del State game on a non-event weekend.
A jerk chicken shack in DC charged me five cents for a bag the other day. I said "if this chicken wasn't so good I would never return." The lady just smiled because she knew the chicken was good.
Our chicken ain't good, and we're charging way more than five cents for it. This might work at some schools, but I'm of the opinion it's not the right time at A&T. The majority of the schools where this works are the only show in town and have winning records. We provide neither. Had it be implemented during the Hayes years, by now it would be habitual and no one would complain. In my opinion it's simply more than the market will bear. Especially considering the continuing economic decline. I expect attendance to drastically decline, and with it fan interest.
We're trying to do things like division I programs in bits and pieces. We directly depend on revenue from ticket sales, most d-1 programs do not and couldn't care less if anybody shows up. They have other revenue streams, the likes of which we haven't bothered to tap.
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Post by Bigboy on Apr 19, 2011 13:18:33 GMT -5
I can foresee a lot of cussing out of people at the gates when this Fan Zone thing is implemented, especially at homecoming!!! This should be very interesting to say the least!!
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Post by trues on Apr 19, 2011 13:23:50 GMT -5
I totally agree Dooms.
You inherit this problem when you bring in a White AD. He try to run things like the other side. Appalachian I can understand But lets be 100 there is a large gap between blacks and whites income. And add to the fact that A&T football team is not in high demand. The timing is bad. They going about it the wrong way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 13:25:45 GMT -5
Umm...
Lets just wait and see how this turns out.
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Post by Maxell on Apr 19, 2011 13:34:21 GMT -5
If it increases revenue which in turn allows us to put a better product on the field then go for it. The non-payers will be mad no matter what. As far as Homecoming is concerned people blow hundreds of dollars that weekend. Let them get mad.
The good thing is that if it doesn't work, it's easy to change back.
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Post by Maxell on Apr 19, 2011 13:39:54 GMT -5
You inherit this problem when you bring in a White AD. You've got to be kidding me. right? The AD wasn't "brought in". He has been at A&T for over a decade. I can't believe you even went there. Sad.
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