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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 2, 2010 12:26:28 GMT -5
I don't understand the "dead period". Are coaching allowed to talk directly to the kid or parent any time other than these dead periods? I thought there was a greater restriction on direct contact than two and 1/2 weeks of the year. Plus, I want to understand the restriction on evaluating talent. Can a coach show up an unlimited number of times at a player's game, whether high school or AAU? What is the difference between the "dead" and "quiet" periods. during a " dead period", virtually "all" recruiting activities are temporarily shut down. meaning you can't visit, call, text, evaluate in person, nothing. any contact or in person evaluations are illegal. during a " quiet period", "in-person" recruiting activities are permitted but limited to on campus contact. so you can recruit them while on campus but not at other venues. you also have " evaluation periods" which means a coach can evaluate prospects but cannot conduct off-campus visits. then there's " contact periods" which means a coach can conduct in-person, off-campus evaluations and contacts. this is when coaches can make home visits to recruits amongst other things. 77, the rules are very complex, as you can imagine. so i can't explain it all in detail. but in general, that's what it means. there are other restrictions regarding when and how a coach can communicate with a prospect. for example, there's certain times of the year that a coach can mail recruiting materials and certain times they can't. likewise, there's certain times a coach can contact a recruit by telephone and certain times they can't. a coach can't show up unlimited numbers of times at a player's games, they can only do that certain periods of time. and in terms of aau tournaments, a coach can only attend "ncaa certified" tournaments, not any and all aau tournaments. there's a whole lot more to the requirements, but i tried to give you a high level of what they are... |
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Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 2, 2010 12:26:32 GMT -5
I don't see what the debate here is. Bibbs' accomplishments are historic and legendary. She is won big everywhere she's been. She has built dominant programs from the ground up everywhere she's been. She has beaten bigger schools who have much larger budgets everywhere she's been. She has won with a diverse group of assistant coaches. Bibbs did not start winning games or getting great players in 2005. The teams she had back at Grambling would probably beat this year's A&T team worse than LSU did. That was when she really had Beatdowns Unlimited. Regardless of what folks on a message board think about her, no one can refute her resume or her proven formula for excellence. So what are we arguing about here? Can't refute nothing you've said. Frisco asked me my opinion on why I thought she was successful. I gave it and I'm waiting for what he thinks. Oleschool saw something and went crazy as usual. lol |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 2, 2010 12:42:39 GMT -5
So I guess evaluating talent is not considered being on the recruting trail. Is it not possible you identify talent that you are intrseted in while oberving an AAU team ? But I guess on your very narrow evalutaing is far different than recruting. I am sorry but Oldschools post has far more credibility than yours. Again you are only twisting word and definitions as usually. She does not recruit . Please!!! I am not in love with every thing that happens at T either but why do you waste so much energy looking for something to question. In addition if someone sends a high school player a letter that indicates to me that you are recruting that kid. Nobody said they gave her an offer; but schools can back off of recruits just like a recruit can back off of a school. Now if Baylor sent every girls high school b-ball player in the nation a letter I would tend to agree with your analysis, but we know that aint the case! Dude, you sound soooooo uninformed. Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone. lol And Baylor sends out dozens and dozens of letters a year man. I know the former aggie (do your homework) that is affiliated with Butler and asked her personally about the kid in question. Getting a letter is NOT recruitment (you can't be serious). I'm not sure where you're coming from about not being happy what happens at T. I'm not complaining about anything. And you forgot to answer the question about why you think Bibbs has been successful. c'mon bigboy, your post is so full of "misinformation" its ridiculous! for example, you stated (and these are your exact words); "Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone."that's a bunch of bull! no you can't evaluate at aau tournaments all year! a coach can only evaluate talent at an aau tournament during "designated periods" based on the ncaa recruiting calendar. and a coach can only attend "ncaa certified" aau tournaments, not just any aau tournament. only a hand full of aau tournaments are "ncaa certified"... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 2, 2010 12:47:09 GMT -5
Oleschool saw something and went crazy as usual. lol i can finally agree with you! i went crazy because you're spewing a bunch of "misinformation" out there! the republicans attack on obama's health care has nothing on you! you're just making a bunch of statements that simply aren't true... |
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Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 2, 2010 12:57:48 GMT -5
Dude, you sound soooooo uninformed. Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone. lol And Baylor sends out dozens and dozens of letters a year man. I know the former aggie (do your homework) that is affiliated with Butler and asked her personally about the kid in question. Getting a letter is NOT recruitment (you can't be serious). I'm not sure where you're coming from about not being happy what happens at T. I'm not complaining about anything. And you forgot to answer the question about why you think Bibbs has been successful. c'mon bigboy, your post is so full of "misinformation" its ridiculous! for example, you stated (and these are your exact words); "Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone."that's a bunch of bull! no you can't evaluate at aau tournaments all year! a coach can only evaluate talent at an aau tournament during "designated periods" based on the ncaa recruiting calendar. and a coach can only attend "ncaa certified" aau tournaments, not just any aau tournament. only a hand full of aau tournaments are "ncaa certified"... No oleschool. I wasn't saying that a coach can evaluate tournies all year. I meant like film, games (during the appropriate time on the road), calls to other coaches etc. Think about it man, AAU tournaments don't last all year. I couldn't have possibly meant that she could evaluate tournies all year. Not to mention, that she has to coach for 4 months. C'mon man, think. Like I said, I think you're looking for an argument. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 2, 2010 13:05:44 GMT -5
I don't see what the debate here is. So what are we arguing about here? the debate is centered around aahhbigboy's claim that coach bibbs "doesn't recruit" her players. he implies that all she does is delegate her assistants who then does all of her recruiting for her (a backhand way of saying robinson and her current assistants deserve all the credit for her recruits). as if bibbs has nothing to do with it... |
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Apr 2, 2010 13:14:23 GMT -5
When's the recruiting period? Frisco. Have u been scouting texas for her? Supposedly there are a few unsigned stars: Amber Orrange, Ronnisha Major, Britney Hardy, Krystal Forthan With the big debate going on about Bibbs, I don't foresee any feedback on your inquiry. Of course, they may not be familiar with any of the players. Perhaps someone from Texas will enlighten the board. Other MEAC teams have made inroads into TX. Good example is Hampton. |
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Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 2, 2010 13:20:56 GMT -5
I don't see what the debate here is. So what are we arguing about here? the debate is centered around aahhbigboy's claim that coach bibbs "doesn't recruit" her players. he implies that all she does is delegate her assistants who then does all of her recruiting for her (a backhand way of saying robinson and her current assistants deserve all the credit for her recruits). as if bibbs has nothing to do with it... Come on man. Why are you even going there? It is so obvious that I don't want to have anything to do with that man. Thrilla and anyone else reading, I don't want to have anything to do with a Robinson argument. I don't even want to mention the name. You guys should really let it go. |
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Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 2, 2010 13:21:44 GMT -5
Sixties, still interested in your opinion on the success. Are you going to answer?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 2, 2010 13:23:13 GMT -5
c'mon bigboy, your post is so full of "misinformation" its ridiculous! for example, you stated (and these are your exact words); "Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone."that's a bunch of bull! no you can't evaluate at aau tournaments all year! a coach can only evaluate talent at an aau tournament during "designated periods" based on the ncaa recruiting calendar. and a coach can only attend "ncaa certified" aau tournaments, not just any aau tournament. only a hand full of aau tournaments are "ncaa certified"... No oleschool. I wasn't saying that a coach can evaluate tournies all year. I meant like film, games (during the appropriate time on the road), calls to other coaches etc. Think about it man, AAU tournaments don't last all year. I couldn't have possibly meant that she could evaluate tournies all year. Not to mention, that she has to coach for 4 months. C'mon man, think. Like I said, I think you're looking for an argument. talk about conflicting statements! omg! bigboy, both of the following statements below were just made by you and they both " contradict" each other. like i said before, you're just "playing on words" to support your argument. when one tells the truth, you "never" make conflicting statements like this (and these are your exact words); first you say; " Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone."then you come right back and say; " No oleschool. I wasn't saying that a coach can evaluate tournies all year."  so no, i'm not just trying to argue. looks to me that you're arguing with yourself!  and by the way, another point of correction. aau tournaments are held "year round". just that the vast majority of aau tournaments are held from march to august... |
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Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 2, 2010 13:58:25 GMT -5
The point I was trying to make was that you can look for talent all year long without actually recruiting a player (by film etc.). Like, just because somebody is in the building, it doesn't mean they are recruiting.
I swear, I need footnotes when talking to you bruh.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 2, 2010 14:50:43 GMT -5
The point I was trying to make was that you can look for talent all year long without actually recruiting a player (by film etc.). Like, just because somebody is in the building, it doesn't mean they are recruiting. I swear, I need footnotes when talking to you bruh. so basically, when you made the comment below, you meant "being at" an aau tournament means the same thing as watching video? negro, publeeze...  "Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone." |
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Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 2, 2010 15:06:35 GMT -5
The point I was trying to make was that you can look for talent all year long without actually recruiting a player (by film etc.). Like, just because somebody is in the building, it doesn't mean they are recruiting. I swear, I need footnotes when talking to you bruh. so basically, when you made the comment below, you meant "being at" an aau tournament means the same thing as watching video? negro, publeeze... "Everybody evaluates at aau tournaments and I'm pretty sure Bibbs was there doing just that. You can do that all year and not talk to anyone." No, you said that. I said that there are different ways to evaluate. And she was probably (because I don't know) there doing just that. Evaluating. Just like you can evaluate film. And you can evaluate all year long and not recruit. That was my point. And no it is not the same thing Mr. Oleschool. I don't know how to make it easier for you to understand. I've accused you of this before. Read what I'm writing. Stop believing the voices in your head. Those are not my thoughts. lol You get the last word. This is petty. Frisco, where are you? Would love to hear your thoughts on the success. Mighty funny you got missing. |
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Apr 2, 2010 15:21:59 GMT -5
Who gives a flip when she came. The point at hand is you (ahhbigboy) said she does not recruit!!!!!
And to answer you question why is she succesful?
1. She is a great recuiter !!!!!
2. Players get better from the time they set foot on campus until they leave. (Tweet, BTJ, Smalley, etc.)
3. X and O's of Coaching. (beat teams with better talent)
4. She is great people person.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Apr 2, 2010 15:28:48 GMT -5
Ok, I see. Just wanted to see what you thought. What team did they beat with better talent? I'm not saying they didn't, I'm just drawing a blank right now.
BTJ did get much better from her junior to senior year too! Gotta agree. I think she went to China that summer if I remember correctly.
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