A&T-roy
Official BDF member
Posts: 4,514
|
Post by A&T-roy on Nov 12, 2023 14:35:30 GMT -5
Most important point here is that he's fumbled in 4 straight games...1 getting close to the red zone and 2 on what could have been game tying/winning drives. He would be carrying the ball around with him all the time and players would be trying to take it from him if I were the coach...if it doesn't break some "being too mean" rules/laws. One of my favorite scenes from "The Program!" Darnell didn't fumble ANYMORE after the whole team dogpiled him in that Scissors Safety class at Eastern State U! Yep! And it was 4 out of the last 5. Forgot about Richmond.
|
|
|
Post by oldschool on Nov 12, 2023 14:45:25 GMT -5
I remember that fumble now, and it was at a crucial moment, but wasn’t there a kickoff return or punt return that was more critical? I can’t remember, I think that I need to watch it again. Most important point here is that he's fumbled in 4 straight games...1 getting close to the red zone and 2 on what could have been game tying/winning drives. He would be carrying the ball around with him all the time and players would be trying to take it from him if I were the coach...if it doesn't break some "being too mean" rules/laws. During the Broadway era in Tarik's early years I remember he fumbled against NCCU right at the goal line in Durham one year . After that happened Coach Gibbs would have Tarik run this drill after every practice where he would have to carry two balls ,one in each hand .Coach would blow his whistle ,and Tarik would start to run then he would blow the whistle again and Tarik would have to hit the ground hard ,if he fumbled either ball or he wasn't falling hard enough he would have to start all over again ,The goal was for him to run just 10 yards without fumbling . Sometimes it would take 30 or more minutes to complete this drill successfully ,one thing I noticed about Christian is the way he carries the ball in traffic ,he doesn't protect the ball with both hands.Coach Gibbs would have corrected this problem by now ,another example of players not being coached up correctly .
|
|
oleschoolaggie
Official BDF member
2009 Poster of the Year, 2009 Most Knowledgeable Poster
Posts: 24,205
|
Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 12, 2023 15:31:29 GMT -5
I remember that fumble now, and it was at a crucial moment, but wasn’t there a kickoff return or punt return that was more critical? I can’t remember, I think that I need to watch it again. Most important point here is that he's fumbled in 4 of the 5 last games...1 getting close to the red zone and 2 on what could have been game tying/winning drives. He would be carrying the ball around with him all the time and players would be trying to take it from him if I were the coach...if it doesn't break some "being too mean" rules/laws. hail nah, that ain't "being too mean"! i would've had his azz carrying a football with him every day, all day, even to class. and i'd tell the rest of the team to try to knock the football outta his arms if they saw him during the day, even if they had to sneak up on him to do it. after about 2 or 3 days of carrying the football all day, i think he'd learn not to fumble as often...
|
|
saabman
Official BDF member
Posts: 11,811
Member is Online
|
Post by saabman on Nov 12, 2023 16:34:33 GMT -5
Most important point here is that he's fumbled in 4 of the 5 last games...1 getting close to the red zone and 2 on what could have been game tying/winning drives. He would be carrying the ball around with him all the time and players would be trying to take it from him if I were the coach...if it doesn't break some "being too mean" rules/laws. hail nah, that ain't "being too mean"! i would've had his azz carrying a football with him every day, all day, even to class. and i'd tell the rest of the team to try to knock the football outta his arms if they saw him during the day, even if they had to sneak up on him to do it. after about 2 or 3 days of carrying the football all day, i think he'd learn not to fumble as often... His problem is not the ball being knocked away his problem is the ball being pried away from his arms . I-we used a drill called Take away for the defensive players and the skill players on offense for sprite points . 10 yard box each way 3 defensive players one runner. The runner had to get as close to the ten yard maker as possible with the ball with out going down . The 3 defensive players had to make the tackle and take the ball for extra points. On the defensive side one makes the hit and Post up the runner or slow his forward motion the other two focus on dislodging the ball from his arms. On the offensive side it teaches the runner to stay low (small box) drive with a forward lean driving his legs going forward and downward and not get posted up right and covering /cradling and protecting the ball with his arms chest and stomach..i.e like recovering a fumble . the runner should end up in a fetal position. That's how you teach a second effort Runner how to protect the ball. Christian only fumbles when he's in a crowd and that is because he allows people to get underneath him and post him up. That's why I say he is not a fumbler, because fumblers only need to be hit hard or grabbed hard by one individual and the ball will come out. Kristen's problem is he allows himself to get posted up and stops his forward lean once he learns to keep his forward lean and drive down it will be less of a chance of losing a fumble in a crowd, also he has to understand that you can't break every run you have to take and get what is given before the other tackler show up. But he is not a fumbler, he's just hasn't been taught how to properly cradle, protect and love the ball
|
|
|
Post by planoaggie on Nov 12, 2023 17:44:47 GMT -5
I still don't categorize him as a fumbler, but he does it at inopportune times, for sure.
Kenji Christian by football definition should be characterized as a "fumbler". He has fumbled in 5 out of 10 games. He fumbled in the 1st game of the season. In the NFL and most good D1 college teams that will get you benched, traded, or cut. The good coaches don't care about the reason you keep fumbling the ball, especially if they have talked with you and worked with you throughout the season. In my opinion our coaches get 2/3 of the blame and Kenji Christian gets 1/3. 1. KC for fumbling the football. 2. Coaches on teaching him proper technique in protecting the football (verbal and physical communication) or missing to teach him proper technique 3. Coaches on decision not to bench him or reduce his number of carries as a lesson to eliminate repetitive mistakes. We have other good RBs. Let us stop making excuses. Lots of little mistakes (coaches and players) together add up to big problems which is why we are in this predicament of only 1 win. This "systematic problem" is the reason why we can't put one complete game together where all phases of the game are working in sync. We have lots of little things to fix before we get good again and it may take all of next season.
|
|
saabman
Official BDF member
Posts: 11,811
Member is Online
|
Post by saabman on Nov 12, 2023 18:16:07 GMT -5
I still don't categorize him as a fumbler, but he does it at inopportune times, for sure.
Kenji Christian by football definition should be characterized as a "fumbler". He has fumbled in 5 out of 10 games. He fumbled in the 1st game of the season. In the NFL and most good D1 college teams that will get you benched, traded, or cut. The good coaches don't care about the reason you keep fumbling the ball, especially if they have talked with you and worked with you throughout the season. In my opinion our coaches get 2/3 of the blame and Kenji Christian gets 1/3. 1. KC for fumbling the football. 2. Coaches on teaching him proper technique in protecting the football (verbal and physical communication) or missing to teach him proper technique 3. Coaches on decision not to bench him or reduce his number of carries as a lesson to eliminate repetitive mistakes. We have other good RBs. Let us stop making excuses. Lots of little mistakes (coaches and players) together add up to big problems which is why we are in this predicament of only 1 win. This "systematic problem" is the reason why we can't put one complete game together where all phases of the game are working in sync. We have lots of little things to fix before we get good again and it may take all of next season. I can live with most of your statement.
|
|
|
Post by aggierattler on Nov 12, 2023 19:31:47 GMT -5
I still don't categorize him as a fumbler, but he does it at inopportune times, for sure.
Kenji Christian by football definition should be characterized as a "fumbler". He has fumbled in 5 out of 10 games. He fumbled in the 1st game of the season. In the NFL and most good D1 college teams that will get you benched, traded, or cut. The good coaches don't care about the reason you keep fumbling the ball, especially if they have talked with you and worked with you throughout the season. In my opinion our coaches get 2/3 of the blame and Kenji Christian gets 1/3. 1. KC for fumbling the football. 2. Coaches on teaching him proper technique in protecting the football (verbal and physical communication) or missing to teach him proper technique 3. Coaches on decision not to bench him or reduce his number of carries as a lesson to eliminate repetitive mistakes. We have other good RBs. Let us stop making excuses. Lots of little mistakes (coaches and players) together add up to big problems which is why we are in this predicament of only 1 win. This "systematic problem" is the reason why we can't put one complete game together where all phases of the game are working in sync. We have lots of little things to fix before we get good again and it may take all of next season. MY BAD! I can live with it, too.
When I made the statement, I hadn't gone back to look game-by-game at his fumbles. Like someone else here said, I didn't realize that he has had as many fumbles on his ledger as he does.
So, OK, I was wrong. No soft-peddling it or excuses...he's a serial, chronic fumbler so far.
|
|
|
Post by pj on Nov 12, 2023 19:40:32 GMT -5
I finally had a chance to see some of the game. I believe that Coach Brown will build a winner. It still is weird that we could not have a passing offense earlier in the season.
* URI had some nice signage around their field. * Their Broadcast had a sideline reporter. * Their Broadcast showed instant replays immediately, with their Logo flashing.
|
|
|
Post by planoaggie on Nov 12, 2023 19:49:01 GMT -5
Kenji Christian by football definition should be characterized as a "fumbler". He has fumbled in 5 out of 10 games. He fumbled in the 1st game of the season. In the NFL and most good D1 college teams that will get you benched, traded, or cut. The good coaches don't care about the reason you keep fumbling the ball, especially if they have talked with you and worked with you throughout the season. In my opinion our coaches get 2/3 of the blame and Kenji Christian gets 1/3. 1. KC for fumbling the football. 2. Coaches on teaching him proper technique in protecting the football (verbal and physical communication) or missing to teach him proper technique 3. Coaches on decision not to bench him or reduce his number of carries as a lesson to eliminate repetitive mistakes. We have other good RBs. Let us stop making excuses. Lots of little mistakes (coaches and players) together add up to big problems which is why we are in this predicament of only 1 win. This "systematic problem" is the reason why we can't put one complete game together where all phases of the game are working in sync. We have lots of little things to fix before we get good again and it may take all of next season. MY BAD! I can live with it, too.
When I made the statement, I hadn't gone back to look game-by-game at his fumbles. Like someone else here said, I didn't realize that he has had as many fumbles on his ledger as he does.
So, OK, I was wrong. No soft-peddling it or excuses...he's a serial, chronic fumbler so far.I am not putting the loss on him and I don't believe you are saying that either. Lots of blame to go all around. We all just wish he gets better at protecting the football.
|
|
|
Post by DOOMS on Nov 12, 2023 19:51:30 GMT -5
I’m sure opposing coaches have told their defensive players they can get the ball from him.
|
|
|
Post by planoaggie on Nov 12, 2023 20:01:56 GMT -5
I’m sure opposing coaches have told their defensive players they can get the ball from him. Absolutely and our coaches should have been reminding him all week that that is what the opposing players are thinking and will try.🙂
|
|
|
Post by aggierattler on Nov 12, 2023 20:15:42 GMT -5
MY BAD! I can live with it, too.
When I made the statement, I hadn't gone back to look game-by-game at his fumbles. Like someone else here said, I didn't realize that he has had as many fumbles on his ledger as he does.
So, OK, I was wrong. No soft-peddling it or excuses...he's a serial, chronic fumbler so far. I am not putting the loss on him and I don't believe you are saying that either. Lots of blame to go all around. We all just wish he gets better at protecting the football. Correct...I'm not pinning the loss on him.
|
|
A&T-roy
Official BDF member
Posts: 4,514
|
Post by A&T-roy on Nov 17, 2023 14:51:33 GMT -5
|
|