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Post by The Professor on Nov 6, 2023 21:27:15 GMT -5
It was, actually, both and more time on campus for our athletes. Earl didn't want to say bad things about the MEAC in the public square. I know because I was in a mtg where he told some of the issues. He also didn't tell all of the good things. At least one being the ESPN+ package where we could see ALL of our football games, men's & women's basketball games and some number of Volleyball, Baseball and Softball contests. The MEAC wasn't using ESPN+ in 2019, furthermore to this day the MEAC does not stream all sports. Facts matter............
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Post by saabman on Nov 6, 2023 21:27:40 GMT -5
Some on here need to go back and read their older post . I remember myself and a few others stating that the reasons that the Chancellor,AD and the BOT gave us for playing follow the leader conference jumping was a Lie . I also stated the it wasn't about the conference but a personal beef/ dislike between the Hampton and A&T Chancellors and the MEAC commissioner . Got a lot off blow back from that but it was the truth. A lot on here cosigned the move or moves and believed every word, but now are taking shots at others become we are not dominant any more ,after it all came out that those that didn't believe what Martin,AD and BOT were selling was actually the truth š GOH š . Yes we are getting Waxed but that is to be expected anytime to move from one level of competition to another . Hell some of you act as if we are Alabama š. As my father would say " take you a$$ whopping and get back up and keep fighting , the better you get the more you will win" when I was boxing Golden Gloves . So of you need to stop š or at least remember what you posted about a subject before you speak š
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 6, 2023 22:07:03 GMT -5
The 100 percenters are bullying again. While I only agree partially with Aggie2039, I get exactly what he was trying to say. What is a "100 percenter" you may ask? They take all statements as 100% of all things. You have to be exact when you talk to them and you cant talk in generalizations to them or the come back is "Not ALL _____s" and think saying that proves you completely wrong. But Aggie2039, while its frustrating to have to always use "SOME, MOST, Majority" and words like that, the 100 percenters will not let generalizations go. It's in their blood. they have to say something. While Aggie2039 probably feels very passionate about his thoughts he is literally typing it to a board full of people HE KNOWS is not that way, so no need to get all worked up that he stated such. The 100 percenters have been growing on this board lately. Another term for 100 percenters is Word Police. Monster - You FINALLY got something right! And, yeah, 2039 went too far. I know quite a few that don't like to party, attend games for the games, etc. Count me as one MOST of the time. I party before and/or after! 2039 should have said something like 'a lot', 'many', 'quite a few', etc. That way those that aren't just out to party won't get offended. #WordPoliceDat
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Post by saabman on Nov 6, 2023 22:24:06 GMT -5
Does #7 NCCU or #13 FAMU really have their eyes on the playoff prize? The donāt care about the playoffs, and their respective conferences have opted out and given up their automatic playoff birth. The celebration bowl is their goalā¦nothing wrong with that, but we have to be honest in saying their national rankings are meaningless because at the end of season their rankings become void. Don't disagree one bit...my problem is with the lack of a financial benefit with FCS playoffs, compared to FBS playoffs. If they want host teams to pay for home games and if the games really aren't packing stadiums (ie. no excitement for the FCS playoffs).....it's hard for me to clamor for the playoffs when there really isn't anything to gain from participating within them. Put some money into it, financially rewarding teams for being in it and winning games from round to round..... Have the NCAA advertise it like FBS playoffs.... Have a selection committee rank teams every week until the playoffs go down.... Make the FCS playoffs matter. As currently constructed, they just don't resonate to the general sports fan. The NCAA has been trying for years to find parties/sponsors for there playoff games, no takers that is until the CB . The CB is the only NCAA sanctioned FCS Bowl game and was supposed to be a catalyst for an FCS system of bowl games. But again no takers or interest in the other FCS programs ,teams or conferences. Like it or not the CB is a money $$$ maker for D1 HBCU FCS participating programs and their institutions. They may not play for the FCS championship but that is there sacrifice and good luck not to have to compete against a deck that is stacked against them. Also there is always the option to get an at-large invite with the proper scheduling and OOC wins in case they fall short of the CB . In saying that I don't care what goes on with FAMU or NCCU or even the SWAC or MEAC ,but I will support and wish them well. Because there is no going back for A&T now so looking back is not and option for me that is . Again no sponsoring organization is interested in a FCS Bowl playoff format and there is nothing the NCAA can do about that .
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 6, 2023 22:29:08 GMT -5
Dude, I've been showing up for 40+ years at Aggie Stadium. My parents took me to the 1st game at Aggie Stadium when we christened it by playing WSSU (no lights then; it wasn't even in a complete horseshoe configuration; no track either). I'm a devoted Aggie alumnus and supporter......and with all of that being said, I have a right to question what the hell is the end-game when it comes to Aggie athletics. We can respectfully disagree with the direction of Aggie athletics.....I just don't understand how joining the CAA propels us athletically. Beating a High Point, NCCU, or Elon goes a lot further in this region than beating an Albany, Delaware, or Stony Brook. I am not knocking the CAA.....I just don't see where it truly benefits the plight of Aggie athletics NSS - Based on the "promise" the CAA gave us that they would split into divisions I expect/understand we'll see North & South divisions next year. They didn't do it this year because there were only 15 football playing schools. As a result, they announced 3 team pods where you would play the 2 teams in your pod every year (ours was gonna be Elon & Campbell) and other pods on some schedule that l didn't try very hard to understand. It seemed like the CAA went after Howard to be the 16th football playing school but Howard decided to stay in the MEAC. As a result, Bryant became the 16th and will join next year. I understand there will be 2 8 team divisions with ours (South) consisting of: 1. A&T 2. Elon 3. Campbell 4. Hampton 5. Richmond 6. W&M 7. Towson 8. Delaware We'll play the 7 teams in our division every year and one North team every year. One year we'll go to a North team and the next year a North team will come to us. That will be 8 conference games which will leave us 3 games to schedule outside the conference (probably an FBS, NCCU and somebody else). I don't know how other sports are expected to done.
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Post by saabman on Nov 6, 2023 22:38:40 GMT -5
Don't disagree one bit...my problem is with the lack of a financial benefit with FCS playoffs, compared to FBS playoffs. If they want host teams to pay for home games and if the games really aren't packing stadiums (ie. no excitement for the FCS playoffs).....it's hard for me to clamor for the playoffs when there really isn't anything to gain from participating within them. Put some money into it, financially rewarding teams for being in it and winning games from round to round..... Have the NCAA advertise it like FBS playoffs.... Have a selection committee rank teams every week until the playoffs go down.... Make the FCS playoffs matter. As currently constructed, they just don't resonate to the general sports fan. Neither does any other sport that we compete in with the NCAA with maybe the exception of March Madness. My stance is if Celebration Bowl is better than playoffs then where is the HBCU March Madness , HBCU World Series , HBCU Softball tournament , etc. Why not since it's no money, because it's no money in those other sports either except for Mens Bball You can't have it both ways . We always talk about inclusion now that we are included people are asking why not this or that and formulating excuses to why . Look the CB was an experiment that only worked out for hbcus because of the fan base interest and the Curiosity of others. Don't make this more than it is. As I stated a long time ago our people do not realize what they have until they give it away to someone else.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 6, 2023 22:44:34 GMT -5
Dude, I've been showing up for 40+ years at Aggie Stadium. My parents took me to the 1st game at Aggie Stadium when we christened it by playing WSSU (no lights then; it wasn't even in a complete horseshoe configuration; no track either). I'm a devoted Aggie alumnus and supporter......and with all of that being said, I have a right to question what the hell is the end-game when it comes to Aggie athletics. We can respectfully disagree with the direction of Aggie athletics.....I just don't understand how joining the CAA propels us athletically. Beating a High Point, NCCU, or Elon goes a lot further in this region than beating an Albany, Delaware, or Stony Brook. I am not knocking the CAA.....I just don't see where it truly benefits the plight of Aggie athletics NSS - Based on the "promise" the CAA gave us that they would split into divisions I expect/understand we'll see North & South divisions next year. They didn't do it this year because there were only 15 football playing schools. As a result, they announced 3 team pods where you would play the 2 teams in your pod every year (ours was gonna be Elon & Campbell) and other pods on some schedule that l didn't try very hard to understand. It seemed like the CAA went after Howard to be the 16th football playing school but Howard decided to stay in the MEAC. As a result, Bryant became the 16th and will join next year. I understand there will be 2 8 team divisions with ours (South) consisting of: 1. A&T 2. Elon 3. Campbell 4. Hampton 5. Richmond 6. W&M 7. Towson 8. Delaware We'll play the 7 teams in our division every year and one North team every year. One year we'll go to a North team and the next year a North team will come to us. That will be 8 conference games which will leave us 3 games to schedule outside the conference (probably an FBS, NCCU and somebody else). I don't know how other sports are expected to done. I do not see us going to divisions...I believe we will have 4 team PODs. Divisions were not done for basketball or volleyball. A&T, Elon, Campbell and HU/Richmond... The goal will be 1 plane flight a year.
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Post by saabman on Nov 6, 2023 22:45:01 GMT -5
Dude, I've been showing up for 40+ years at Aggie Stadium. My parents took me to the 1st game at Aggie Stadium when we christened it by playing WSSU (no lights then; it wasn't even in a complete horseshoe configuration; no track either). I'm a devoted Aggie alumnus and supporter......and with all of that being said, I have a right to question what the hell is the end-game when it comes to Aggie athletics. We can respectfully disagree with the direction of Aggie athletics.....I just don't understand how joining the CAA propels us athletically. Beating a High Point, NCCU, or Elon goes a lot further in this region than beating an Albany, Delaware, or Stony Brook. I am not knocking the CAA.....I just don't see where it truly benefits the plight of Aggie athletics NSS - Based on the "promise" the CAA gave us that they would split into divisions I expect/understand we'll see North & South divisions next year. They didn't do it this year because there were only 15 football playing schools. As a result, they announced 3 team pods where you would play the 2 teams in your pod every year (ours was gonna be Elon & Campbell) and other pods on some schedule that l didn't try very hard to understand.Ā It seemed like the CAA went after Howard to be the 16th football playing school but Howard decided to stay in the MEAC. As a result, Bryant became the 16th and will join next year. I understand there will be 2 8 team divisions with ours (South) consisting of: 1. A&T 2. Elon 3. Campbell 4. Hampton 5. Richmond 6. W&M 7. Towson 8. Delaware We'll play the 7 teams in our division every year and one North team every year. One year we'll go to a North team and the next year a North team will come to us. That will be 8 conference games which will leave us 3 games to schedule outside the conference (probably an FBS, NCCU and somebody else). I don't know how other sports are expected to done.Ā Should be the same format depending on what sports are afforded or not at each institution in non revenue sports .
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 6, 2023 23:17:16 GMT -5
NSS - Based on the "promise" the CAA gave us that they would split into divisions I expect/understand we'll see North & South divisions next year. They didn't do it this year because there were only 15 football playing schools. As a result, they announced 3 team pods where you would play the 2 teams in your pod every year (ours was gonna be Elon & Campbell) and other pods on some schedule that l didn't try very hard to understand. It seemed like the CAA went after Howard to be the 16th football playing school but Howard decided to stay in the MEAC. As a result, Bryant became the 16th and will join next year. I understand there will be 2 8 team divisions with ours (South) consisting of: 1. A&T 2. Elon 3. Campbell 4. Hampton 5. Richmond 6. W&M 7. Towson 8. Delaware We'll play the 7 teams in our division every year and one North team every year. One year we'll go to a North team and the next year a North team will come to us. That will be 8 conference games which will leave us 3 games to schedule outside the conference (probably an FBS, NCCU and somebody else). I don't know how other sports are expected to done. I do not see us going to divisions...I believe we will have 4 team PODs. Divisions were not done for basketball or volleyball. A&T, Elon, Campbell and HU/Richmond... The goal will be 1 plane flight a year. I believe Football will be the only sport with 16 participating schools. I'd be surprised if they do pods. Delaware would be the farthest away, at about 6 hrs. Don't know if that would be a flight. And if Delaware isn't a flight there would only be a flight every other year to a North school.
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 6, 2023 23:18:01 GMT -5
NSS - Based on the "promise" the CAA gave us that they would split into divisions I expect/understand we'll see North & South divisions next year. They didn't do it this year because there were only 15 football playing schools. As a result, they announced 3 team pods where you would play the 2 teams in your pod every year (ours was gonna be Elon & Campbell) and other pods on some schedule that l didn't try very hard to understand. It seemed like the CAA went after Howard to be the 16th football playing school but Howard decided to stay in the MEAC. As a result, Bryant became the 16th and will join next year. I understand there will be 2 8 team divisions with ours (South) consisting of: 1. A&T 2. Elon 3. Campbell 4. Hampton 5. Richmond 6. W&M 7. Towson 8. Delaware We'll play the 7 teams in our division every year and one North team every year. One year we'll go to a North team and the next year a North team will come to us. That will be 8 conference games which will leave us 3 games to schedule outside the conference (probably an FBS, NCCU and somebody else). I don't know how other sports are expected to done. Should be the same format depending on what sports are afforded or not at each institution in non revenue sports . The other sports don't have 16 teams like football.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Nov 7, 2023 7:30:49 GMT -5
That was specifically about the Covid-19 testing and how that was handled, NOT overall poor leadership of the conference that had us researching other conferences since 2013/14. Like come on.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 7, 2023 7:44:20 GMT -5
We were still in the conference when he made those negative public comments about Dennis Thomas and the MEAC leadership. He even said he wanted to go "scorched earth" against them.
You said it would be idiotic to do such a thing.
Do you still stand by that or not?
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 7, 2023 8:04:21 GMT -5
That was specifically about the Covid-19 testing and how that was handled, NOT overall poor leadership of the conference that had us researching other conferences since 2013/14. Like come on. West coast, do not look into the light. You canāt reason with some people.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 7, 2023 8:18:45 GMT -5
Both of yall routinely make emotional statements without even bothering to do any research. Then when you get proven wrong (often), yall are quick to change the subject.
All I ask is that you be accurate if you are going to make bold statements.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Nov 7, 2023 9:28:56 GMT -5
Both of yall routinely make emotional statements without even bothering to do any research. Then when you get proven wrong (often), yall are quick to change the subject. All I ask is that you be accurate if you are going to make bold statements. Hereās the quote that has Bornthrilla disagreeing with me, yet again: Wishing heād gone āscorched earthā regarding how the conference handled their COVID 19 tests for the tournament IS NOT specifically saying the conference is poorly ran OVERALL. No administrator is not ever going to publicly bad mouth a commissioner that he or she likely voted for to be hired. Theyāre also not going to publicly bad mouth other Chancellors and Presidents. They will cross paths and will partner with each other in some capacity on a host of items that are outside of the athletic realm. But to sit here and say that MEAC members werenāt in bad shape in the 2010s enrollment-wise, financially, or athletically in multiple sports is inaccurate. You just will never hear our admins say that publicly. However, I recall these statements made during private meetings.
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