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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 1, 2023 13:07:29 GMT -5
HBCU alums just like the rest of black society only care about the party! ....maybe it's me, but the tone of this statement sounds unsettling.... "Just like the rest of black society".....don't care for that one. The truth is unsettling at times, especially in todays society where the truth is sugar coated and people are lied to.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 1, 2023 13:37:16 GMT -5
When you say "HBCU alums (are) just like the rest of black society," that phrase breeds stereotypes and innuendos that any HBCU alum would check you on. "just like the rest of black society".....lay off the FOX news for a few days.
So BT told you about a relative who has seen some serious partying at LSU. Historically, Arizona State is known as a party school.
Out of curiosity, have you ever stated that "PWC alums just like the rest of white society only care about the party?"
If not, why?
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Post by AggieMac on Nov 1, 2023 13:55:06 GMT -5
Umm just a thought since we use this site frequently and outsiders often lurk this site for A&T information, should these arguments on what we mean by the rest of black society vs white society be discussed in private forum. I just fear that these sentiments may get in to the wrong hands and tarnish the reputation for A&T alums and fans.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 1, 2023 14:26:05 GMT -5
Nah, folks should be able to talk about these topics freely and in public. We are all college educated adults here.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 1, 2023 14:30:10 GMT -5
....and there needs to be no sidestepping. "Just like the rest of black society".....if the rest of this board doesn't think that phrase is unsettling, I'll step down. Tell me I'm wrong. I don't need to be right. Personally, that phrase jumped off the screen when I read it.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Nov 1, 2023 14:40:42 GMT -5
....and there needs to be no sidestepping. "Just like the rest of black society".....if the rest of this board doesn't think that phrase is unsettling, I'll step down. Tell me I'm wrong. I don't need to be right. Personally, that phrase jumped off the screen when I read it. You point is well taken superstar, but upon reading the post I didn't find it "unsettling"...this is a message board after all and people have their opinions and biases. Did he use a broad brush in describing HBCU fans or Black society in general...sure, but people folks on this and other forms of social media do that type of thing all the time. We are educated people and know that HBCUs and Black society are just as diverse in action and thought as the people that make up the group.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 1, 2023 14:42:03 GMT -5
The 100 percenters are bullying again. While I only agree partially with Aggie2039, I get exactly what he was trying to say. What is a "100 percenter" you may ask? They take all statements as 100% of all things. You have to be exact when you talk to them and you cant talk in generalizations to them or the come back is "Not ALL _____s" and think saying that proves you completely wrong. But Aggie2039, while its frustrating to have to always use "SOME, MOST, Majority" and words like that, the 100 percenters will not let generalizations go. It's in their blood. they have to say something. While Aggie2039 probably feels very passionate about his thoughts he is literally typing it to a board full of people HE KNOWS is not that way, so no need to get all worked up that he stated such. The 100 percenters have been growing on this board lately. Another term for 100 percenters is Word Police.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 1, 2023 14:47:53 GMT -5
....and there needs to be no sidestepping. "Just like the rest of black society".....if the rest of this board doesn't think that phrase is unsettling, I'll step down. Tell me I'm wrong. I don't need to be right. Personally, that phrase jumped off the screen when I read it. You point is well taken superstar, but upon reading the post I didn't find it "unsettling"...this is a message board after all and people have their opinions and biases. Did he use a broad brush in describing HBCU fans or Black society in general...sure, but people folks on this and other forms of social media do that type of thing all the time. We are educated people and know that HBCUs and Black society are just as diverse in action and thought as the people that make up the group. You missed one word.......SHOULD.......As in, "We are educated people and SHOULD know that HBCUs and black society are just as diverse in action and thought as the people that make up the group." I promise you this, go to a bar, barber shop, work lunch, work meeting, town hall meeting, etc.....if you say the phrase somebody/someone/some group "is just like the rest of____fill in the blank____" the looks and responses you get from the people in that room ain't gonna be pleasant.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 1, 2023 14:55:18 GMT -5
I rest my case, LOL
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 1, 2023 15:10:53 GMT -5
I think yall should understand now that Aggie2039 has a personal desire to see A&T move away from the traditional HBCU paradigm.
That agenda shapes his attitude towards A&T's current conference affiliation, the school's future demographic makeup and even its connection to the civil rights movement. For some reason, he has been hesitant to state that directly but it is pretty clear now.
He's entitled to that viewpoint, but you guys shouldn't be surprised when he shares it.
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Post by AggieMac on Nov 1, 2023 15:14:48 GMT -5
Nah, folks should be able to talk about these topics freely and in public. We are all college educated adults here. That's not my point. Yeah I know WE are college educated, but not all who lurk this site necessarily are. But carry on...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 1, 2023 15:16:40 GMT -5
I dont understand. What are you afraid that people will see?
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 1, 2023 15:25:11 GMT -5
When you say "HBCU alums (are) just like the rest of black society," that phrase breeds stereotypes and innuendos that any HBCU alum would check you on. "just like the rest of black society".....lay off the FOX news for a few days. So BT told you about a relative who has seen some serious partying at LSU. Historically, Arizona State is known as a party school. Out of curiosity, have you ever stated that "PWC alums just like the rest of white society only care about the party?" If not, why? I definitely doubt a HBCU alum would check me on it... Again the truth hurts, not my problem that it hurts your feelings. You lay off of "poor is me I need someone to save me tv". I deserve free stuff that other people work hard to achieve!!! I havent said it and dont plan on it, why? Because PWI fans actually attend games during basketball tournaments vs hangout in downtown Charlotte partying and drinking while games are being played. Ive been to a University of Iowa football game and people tailgate hard but they actually go in the game. Again, not my problem that you are offended by the truth.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 1, 2023 15:31:50 GMT -5
I think yall should understand now that Aggie2039 has a personal desire to see A&T move away from the traditional HBCU paradigm. That agenda shapes his attitude towards A&T's current conference affiliation, the school's future demographic makeup and even its connection to the civil rights movement. For some reason, he has been hesitant to state that directly but it is pretty clear now. He's entitled to that viewpoint, but you guys shouldn't be surprised when he shares it. BT, Please stop, I do not have a problem with school demographics or civil rights. Do I care? Honestly I do not. My #1 Priority its what is best for the growth of the university and current and future students from an academic perspective. I am not the sentimental type, that impedes good decision making. I despise the acceptance of mediocrity and not taking ownership of ones fate and or actions. HBCU lackluster performance on the court or field is always blamed on someone else vs developing a plan and executing. Nothing is stoping HBCU alums from donating to athletics for modern facilities and amenities.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 1, 2023 16:56:52 GMT -5
Exactly. That's why I said you wanted to see A&T move away from its connection to the civil rights movement.
A&T has historically been considered a bastion of civil rights and social change. You have stated repeatedly that you don't care that A&T and other HBCUs have been victims of systemic racism by conservative state governments and that we just need to get over it. So that tells me that you don't value the school's connection to the civil rights movement.
I am just making it plain for people who don't realize your position.
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