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Post by planoaggie on Oct 22, 2023 15:55:21 GMT -5
Is White getting better under current staff after redshirt pulled? If it has peaked, is his growth being limited by him, coaching, or both? We have 5 games to observe whether he is getting better, peaked, or regress. In the Richmond game White definitely did not look better. One could argue that he regressed in passing. One sack, 2 interception, no passing TDs, 37 passing yards, no individual or team rushing TDs, 57% completion, and RTG of 50.8 (his lowest to date in games he threw a pass). www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/5164567/kevin-white
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Oct 22, 2023 16:46:56 GMT -5
He’s been consistent….
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Post by planoaggie on Oct 22, 2023 16:50:24 GMT -5
consistently bad, the same, or improving?
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Post by aggie62 on Oct 22, 2023 16:58:29 GMT -5
IMO, the two things that White needs the most are:
1. More time from the offensive line to settle down and go throuh his progressions on pass plays 2. A better of mixture of play-calls to keep the defense guessing
If he gets these two things he'll be all right
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 22, 2023 17:08:48 GMT -5
IMO, the two things that White needs the most are: 1. More time from the offensive line to settle down and go throuh his progressions on pass plays 2. A better of mixture of play-calls to keep the defense guessing If he gets these two things he'll be all right #2 is highly dependent on #1. Personally, I think the game is too fast for him. He had no spring practice, arrived in the summer and was #3 on the depth chart. He needs a couple more years for the game to slow down and see more defenses.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 22, 2023 17:33:38 GMT -5
Imo he needs to hand the ball off.
A whole lot.
From different formations with different blocking schemes.
Say what you want, if Barnette was OC I’m willing to bet we’d be over 400 yards per game total offense right now with White at the helm. He NEVER had a qb with as much upside as White.
We can let go of the tummy quakes over White not being redshirted. Hopefully coach will realize somebody else needs to work with the qbs and run the offense and switch some positions regardless of his feelings on continuity.
Imo it remains to be see whether Whote has peaked with the current staff or not. There’s ultimately no way to know until the season has concluded.
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Post by bluhurricane on Oct 22, 2023 17:39:13 GMT -5
I think coaching is failing all the QB's. I don't see many adjustments if any at all. Cooke is an all conference talent that's about to go to waste because it would be crazy for teams to kick it to him anymore this year. How hard can it be to feature him on offense so teams can't key the run and kill our offense? Where's Amonte Jones?
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 22, 2023 17:45:19 GMT -5
Imo he needs to hand the ball off. A whole lot. From different formations with different blocking schemes. Say what you want, if Barnette was OC I’m willing to bet we’d be over 400 yards per game total offense right now with White at the helm. He NEVER had a qb with as much upside as White. We can let go of the tummy quakes over White not being redshirted. Hopefully coach will realize somebody else needs to work with the qbs and run the offense and switch some positions regardless of his feelings on continuity. Imo it remains to be see whether Whote has peaked with the current staff or not. There’s ultimately no way to know until the season has concluded. I know you are upset and all but let’s be realistic. I checked wssu stats and they are avg 299 yards a game, with a schedule that includes the likes of Shaw, Livingstone, St Aug, Lincoln and bluefield state…no shade to those schools but they aren’t powerhouse nationally ranked teams.
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Post by planoaggie on Oct 22, 2023 17:45:52 GMT -5
White is going to be ok no matter what. The question is will he improve over the remainder of "this season" or has he peaked and we are wasting opportunities to get him better for next year.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 22, 2023 17:46:10 GMT -5
I think coaching is failing all the QB's. I don't see many adjustments if any at all. Cooke is an all conference talent that's about to go to waste because it would be crazy for teams to kick it to him anymore this year. How hard can it be to feature him on offense so teams can't key the run and kill our offense? Where's Amonte Jones? Cooke drops a lot of open passes, he is fast but doesn’t have the best hands.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 22, 2023 17:48:04 GMT -5
White is going to be ok no matter what. The question is will he will improve over the remainder of "this season" or has he peaked and we are wasting opportunities to get him better for next year. He will improve, the more game reps the better…he is a true freshman. He learned what not to do this weekend, he won’t make the same mistake again. The other QBs will not improve, they aren’t getting game reps.
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Post by planoaggie on Oct 22, 2023 17:54:03 GMT -5
White is going to be ok no matter what. The question is will he improve over the remainder of "this season" or has he peaked and we are wasting opportunities to get him better for next year. He will improve, the more game reps the better…he is a true freshman. He learned what not to do this weekend, he won’t make the same mistake again. The other QBs will not improve, they aren’t getting game reps. That brings us to another question posted by some. Should we be playing more than one QB the rest of the season to build experience at the position for multiple QBs?
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 22, 2023 18:01:40 GMT -5
He will improve, the more game reps the better…he is a true freshman. He learned what not to do this weekend, he won’t make the same mistake again. The other QBs will not improve, they aren’t getting game reps. That brings us to another question posted by some. Should we be playing more than one QB the rest of the season to build experience at the position for multiple QBs? We definitely should, Brick got the short end of the stick by being judged off his performance against UAB and 2 drives vs NCCU. Your first start against a dominant team like UAB was unfair.
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Post by saabman on Oct 22, 2023 19:00:35 GMT -5
Is White getting better under current staff after redshirt pulled? If it has peaked, is his growth being limited by him, coaching, or both? We have 5 games to observe whether he is getting better, peaked, or regress. In the Richmond game White definitely did not look better. One could argue that he regressed in passing. One sack, 2 interception, no passing TDs, 37 passing yards, no individual or team rushing TDs, 57% completion, and RTG of 50.8 (his lowest to date in games he threw a pass). www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/5164567/kevin-whiteThe question should be has the team peaked, gotten better or regressed. White is only as effective as the Coaching and talent around him . For me it's all of the above excluding Peaked . You can see that White has the talent but in a team driven sport, it takes more then individual talent.Unit execution and application is the key at this level . That is what this team is lacking. You either peak as a unit or you regress as a unit that has talented players. So it about more then just White . White is just a freshman quarterback with untapped Talent and his development or regression depends on the development or regression of the talent around him. The coaches have to do better .
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Post by saabman on Oct 22, 2023 19:23:16 GMT -5
IMO, the two things that White needs the most are: 1. More time from the offensive line to settle down and go throuh his progressions on pass plays 2. A better of mixture of play-calls to keep the defense guessing If he gets these two things he'll be all right He was only sacked one time , he was only hurried one time. He must learn how to extend plays horizontally before he chooses to go vertically. This gives his receivers time to reset their routes to flow back to him, this is not uncommon for freshman quarterbacks. Watch the receivers for Richmond, when their quarterbacks went horizontal they worked their way back to him, whereas our receivers was just stopped and watched. that is one thing that is learned in receiving 101 to always work yourself back to the quarterback when he is in trouble. Our receivers rarely do that. Like I said there's enough blame to go around. But one thing I know for sure. If white is to develop into the quarterback that we think he will be the athletes around him must develop and execute at the same pace. This is not a one-man show. This is about the unit .
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