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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 10, 2021 7:10:50 GMT -5
6'1 didn't matter, Keyes and Bell bodied those guys. They were strong as hell. Bell bodied out of conference guys also. Only team he couldn't do it to was Duke. The Big South is slight better in football but not that much better. These last few FAMU squads could hold their own in the Big South. Bell best games were against subpar competition, BS top teams are a lot better So Alcorn, Grambling and FAMU just sucked huh? They couldn't have beaten anyone in the Big South that year? Not Hampton, Campbell, CSU, or Gardner Webb...Robert Morris maybe? Man what about ECU, Jacksonville State. They would both suck in the Big South during Bells years also huh? Thats laughable.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 10, 2021 7:13:49 GMT -5
In my opinion, Bell's best overall game was the 2017 Celebration Bowl against Grambling.
That was a master class in route running.
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 10, 2021 7:56:49 GMT -5
Bell best games were against subpar competition, BS top teams are a lot better So Alcorn, Grambling and FAMU just sucked huh? They couldn't have beaten anyone in the Big South that year? Not Hampton, Campbell, CSU, or Gardner Webb...Robert Morris maybe? Man what about ECU, Jacksonville State. They would both suck in the Big South during Bells years also huh? Thats laughable. Yes they did suck and he didn’t show up vs ECU or Jacksonville state. Bell had 2 catches for 6 yards vs Jacksonville www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401030241Bell had 6 for 65 vs ecu…again, his best games were versus lower level competition. Bell had zero catches vs FAMU the entire first half and didn’t play the second half🤷🏾♂️ www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401180853Hence the reason he had no nfl tryout and no free agent contract. The facts/nfl don’t lie Your lack of facts and emotion vs logic is laughable.
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Post by Gator on Aug 10, 2021 8:23:12 GMT -5
So Alcorn, Grambling and FAMU just sucked huh? They couldn't have beaten anyone in the Big South that year? Not Hampton, Campbell, CSU, or Gardner Webb...Robert Morris maybe? Man what about ECU, Jacksonville State. They would both suck in the Big South during Bells years also huh? Thats laughable. Yes they did suck and he didn’t show up vs ECU or Jacksonville state. Bell had 2 catches for 6 yards vs Jacksonville www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401030241Bell had 6 for 65 vs ecu…again, his best games were versus lower level competition. Bell had zero catches vs FAMU the entire first half and didn’t play the second half🤷🏾♂️ www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401180853Hence the reason he had no nfl tryout and no free agent contract. The facts/nfl don’t lie Your lack of facts and emotion vs logic is laughable. Facts are subject to interpretation! Your quite selective in your presentation/data of Eligah Bell. To be honest, it's laughable! You do a dis-service to the young man and his entire body work while at A&T. Many of us remember his freshman year and the impact he made. Games such as Richmond, Elon, Kent State, Charlotte, FAMU Homecoming a few years ago, and many more. I'm of the opinion, Bell is a victim of NFL politics. You run higher than a 4.6 as a receiver, you're automatically a free agent signee. As for lower level competition, that can apply to all who have been drafted from DII or FCS programs.
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Post by aggieswag on Aug 10, 2021 8:43:20 GMT -5
So Alcorn, Grambling and FAMU just sucked huh? They couldn't have beaten anyone in the Big South that year? Not Hampton, Campbell, CSU, or Gardner Webb...Robert Morris maybe? Man what about ECU, Jacksonville State. They would both suck in the Big South during Bells years also huh? Thats laughable. Yes they did suck and he didn’t show up vs ECU or Jacksonville state. Bell had 2 catches for 6 yards vs Jacksonville www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401030241Bell had 6 for 65 vs ecu…again, his best games were versus lower level competition. Bell had zero catches vs FAMU the entire first half and didn’t play the second half🤷🏾♂️ www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401180853Hence the reason he had no nfl tryout and no free agent contract. The facts/nfl don’t lie Your lack of facts and emotion vs logic is laughable. I would have to agree with this. From the cheap seats I sit in, when we needed a score or a play the most the go to was Leslie, everyone in the stands felt the same way. The hype was good and we all went along with it because that’s what we fans are supposed to do. But I never thought he showed any nfl prowess. Leslie on the otherhand does. He’s all Bells hype but he going show up. That’s why I was surprised that banks beat him out.
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 10, 2021 8:44:09 GMT -5
Facts are subject to interpretation! Your quite selective in your presentation/data of Eligah Bell. To be honest, it's laughable! You do a dis-service to the young man and his entire body work while at A&T. Many of us remember his freshman year and the impact he made. Games such as Richmond, Elon, Kent State, Charlotte, FAMU Homecoming a few years ago, and many more. I'm of the opinion, Bell is a victim of NFL politics. You run higher than a 4.6 as a receiver, you're automatically a free agent signee. As for lower level competition, that can apply to all who have been drafted from DII or FCS programs. Yiu can laugh all you want, here you guys go with the victim mindset. He didn’t fall victim to politics, even a blind man saw that he wasn’t a nfl caliber receiver. He would have made a great TE. Yiu guys and your Aggie glasses, guys drafted at the FCs level dominate every week and especially during big games. He disappeared and had multiple drops during big games, he was a good lower level FCS player. He dominated in games vs two of the lowest ranked conferences in FCS🤷🏾♂️.
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 10, 2021 8:55:14 GMT -5
Bell best games were against subpar competition, BS top teams are a lot better So Alcorn, Grambling and FAMU just sucked huh? They couldn't have beaten anyone in the Big South that year? Not Hampton, Campbell, CSU, or Gardner Webb...Robert Morris maybe? Man what about ECU, Jacksonville State. They would both suck in the Big South during Bells years also huh? Thats laughable. How many MEAC and SWAC teams are ranked in the top 25 again? Zero!!!! The BS has more ranked teams than the two conferences combined so yes the competition is better in the BS.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 10, 2021 9:01:14 GMT -5
Facts are subject to interpretation! Your quite selective in your presentation/data of Eligah Bell. To be honest, it's laughable! You do a dis-service to the young man and his entire body work while at A&T. Many of us remember his freshman year and the impact he made. Games such as Richmond, Elon, Kent State, Charlotte, FAMU Homecoming a few years ago, and many more. I'm of the opinion, Bell is a victim of NFL politics. You run higher than a 4.6 as a receiver, you're automatically a free agent signee. As for lower level competition, that can apply to all who have been drafted from DII or FCS programs. Yiu can laugh all you want, here you guys go with the victim mindset. He didn’t fall victim to politics, even a blind man saw that he wasn’t a nfl caliber receiver. He would have made a great TE. Yiu guys and your Aggie glasses, guys drafted at the FCs level dominate every week and especially during big games. He disappeared and had multiple drops during big games, he was a good lower level FCS player. He dominated in games vs two of the lowest ranked conferences in FCS🤷🏾♂️. NFL caliber and a good college competitor and player can be 2 different things. He disappeared at Duke, I've said that on this board several times. I've said several times he wasn't fast enough to get drafted and probably wouldn't. So not sure where Aggie colored glasses comment comes from. You obviously dont read what I post much. He was doubled all game a FAMU. Against Jacksonville State 1 of those catches you tried to dismiss was a BULLY BALL catch in the endzone that we don't win without. So, I think you are being very selective. His body of work is impressive. His dominance in multiple games was impressive. Gator said it best. You lost all credibility with "Alcorn, Grambling and FAMU" sucked. Besides Monmouth and Kennesaw, who is so great in the Big South or has been great in the Big South? They have NEVER been good top to bottom. Thats why we are pre-season 3rd. Everyone else is MEAC level comp. Anyways, lets back all the way up. The question was, is Jump Ball U(the back shoulder throws and endzone corner routes that Bell and Keyes ran for 7 years straight) going to continue? Has nothing to do with how good Bell was or not. Doesn't matter how good Keyes was or not. It's been a staple in our offense for 7 years at least. Will we continue to run those routes and with who is the subject?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 10, 2021 9:30:39 GMT -5
The question was, is Jump Ball U(the back shoulder throws and endzone corner routes that Bell and Keyes ran for 7 years straight) going to continue? I dont see why not. Korey Banks, Leslie and Ron Hunt are still on the roster. All those guys are high risers. Plus, some of the most incredible jump ball plays I have witnessed in A&T practices were actually made by Jordan McDaniel.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 10, 2021 10:04:39 GMT -5
The question was, is Jump Ball U(the back shoulder throws and endzone corner routes that Bell and Keyes ran for 7 years straight) going to continue? I dont see why not. Korey Banks, Leslie and Ron Hunt are still on the roster. All those guys are high risers. Plus, some of the most incredible jump ball plays I have witnessed in A&T practices were actually made by Jordan McDaniel. I agree with you, but those routes should not be Leslie's. Our #1 should have a more balanced route tree called for him. At least I hope he does.
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Post by saabman on Aug 10, 2021 10:19:12 GMT -5
Facts are subject to interpretation! Your quite selective in your presentation/data of Eligah Bell. To be honest, it's laughable! You do a dis-service to the young man and his entire body work while at A&T. Many of us remember his freshman year and the impact he made. Games such as Richmond, Elon, Kent State, Charlotte, FAMU Homecoming a few years ago, and many more. I'm of the opinion, Bell is a victim of NFL politics. You run higher than a 4.6 as a receiver, you're automatically a free agent signee. As for lower level competition, that can apply to all who have been drafted from DII or FCS programs. Yiu can laugh all you want, here you guys go with the victim mindset. He didn’t fall victim to politics, even a blind man saw that he wasn’t a nfl caliber receiver. He would have made a great TE. Yiu guys and your Aggie glasses, guys drafted at the FCs level dominate every week and especially during big games. He disappeared and had multiple drops during big games, he was a good lower level FCS player. He dominated in games vs two of the lowest ranked conferences in FCS🤷🏾♂️. If you would have said that Bell was not an NFL Caliber athlete at that position WR , I would have agreed with you 100% . But to down play the youngmans accomplishments to make your point is a Petty Act of disrespect . This is my assessment of Bell and why he was over looked. 1. Speed 2. Numbers (WR in his class) 3. Route application 4. FCS player 5. Potential that needs to be developed 6. Not enough time for a NFL team to develop him 7. Showed no other potential play another position ie return kicks and not fast enough for other special teams duties . But those things do not diminish the accomplishments this young man achieved at the Collegiate level . Do I think he should have gotten a cup of coffee in the show , yes he should have , do I think that A&T prepared him for the next level NO . Truthfully speaking no disrespect but A&T WR's run basically Vanilla predictable routes who do you blame for that the coaches are the WR . Also I have always said that Bell would have made a Great TE because of his physical ability and the way he attacked the ball but I'm not the coach . Do not drop salt on the young man's outstanding career because he didn't get and invitation to the show .
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Post by saabman on Aug 10, 2021 10:39:25 GMT -5
I dont see why not. Korey Banks, Leslie and Ron Hunt are still on the roster. All those guys are high risers. Plus, some of the most incredible jump ball plays I have witnessed in A&T practices were actually made by Jordan McDaniel. I agree with you, but those routes should not be Leslie's. Our #1 should have a more balanced route tree called for him. At least I hope he does. 100% but history has away of repeating itself . This jump ball BS has to stop . Our receivers should be more balanced as you stated . What good is a Jump Ball when you can't Stretch the field Horizontally or Vertically . These sideline Vanilla route have to stop let the recievers run and learn to use the TE especially in the Red zone .
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 10, 2021 10:42:08 GMT -5
Facts are subject to interpretation! Your quite selective in your presentation/data of Eligah Bell. To be honest, it's laughable! You do a dis-service to the young man and his entire body work while at A&T. Many of us remember his freshman year and the impact he made. Games such as Richmond, Elon, Kent State, Charlotte, FAMU Homecoming a few years ago, and many more. I'm of the opinion, Bell is a victim of NFL politics. You run higher than a 4.6 as a receiver, you're automatically a free agent signee. As for lower level competition, that can apply to all who have been drafted from DII or FCS programs. Yiu can laugh all you want, here you guys go with the victim mindset. He didn’t fall victim to politics, even a blind man saw that he wasn’t a nfl caliber receiver. He would have made a great TE. Yiu guys and your Aggie glasses, guys drafted at the FCs level dominate every week and especially during big games. He disappeared and had multiple drops during big games, he was a good lower level FCS player. He dominated in games vs two of the lowest ranked conferences in FCS🤷🏾♂️. Hold on a minute now...facts are facts you are right. But, I don't see that FACT that Bell had a touchdown catch in each of the games you mentioned: ECU & Jacksonville State. Wonder why it isn't in the statistical data? Go back and look at the highlights, he catches a touchdown between his legs against Jacksonville and a 7 yard TD grab against ECU. These are NOT alternative facts, either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 10:47:32 GMT -5
I dont see why not. Korey Banks, Leslie and Ron Hunt are still on the roster. All those guys are high risers. Plus, some of the most incredible jump ball plays I have witnessed in A&T practices were actually made by Jordan McDaniel. I agree with you, but those routes should not be Leslie's. Our #1 should have a more balanced route tree called for him. At least I hope he does. We're going to be seeing a bunch of Fowler to Leslie over the middle and terrorizing deep safeties this Fall. And Leslie is a good route runner. I clearly remember seeing Leslie break down Norfolk's good corners, making them look bad. He also made Alcorn's secondary look stupid and those weren't over the shoulder jump passes. We're about to see one explosive offense this fall to likes we've never seen from an Aggie offense.
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 10, 2021 11:53:53 GMT -5
Yiu can laugh all you want, here you guys go with the victim mindset. He didn’t fall victim to politics, even a blind man saw that he wasn’t a nfl caliber receiver. He would have made a great TE. Yiu guys and your Aggie glasses, guys drafted at the FCs level dominate every week and especially during big games. He disappeared and had multiple drops during big games, he was a good lower level FCS player. He dominated in games vs two of the lowest ranked conferences in FCS🤷🏾♂️. Hold on a minute now...facts are facts you are right. But, I don't see that FACT that Bell had a touchdown catch in each of the games you mentioned: ECU & Jacksonville State. Wonder why it isn't in the statistical data? Go back and look at the highlights, he catches a touchdown between his legs against Jacksonville and a 7 yard TD grab against ECU. These are NOT alternative facts, either. Who cares about 1 touchdown in an entire 4 quarters when you only had 2 catches. Your number 1 all everything wide receiver had 2 catches in one of the most important games of the season. Let that sink in 6 yards 6 yards total for the number 1 receiver… But hey that satisfies yiu so be happy
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