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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 18, 2021 14:54:52 GMT -5
This is what you're up against from the SWAC schools Even Norfolk still recruiting...They will probably be bigger than us this upcoming season again. As A&T alums we should be outraged by this!
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Post by aggiestats on Jul 19, 2021 9:17:38 GMT -5
I think people need to realize that BGMM is in a unique situation compare to other HBCU band programs. The BGMM is not aligned to a School of Music or a College of Arts & Sciences. Other programs are able to fund so many scholarships not because of alumni giving but because of their department's annual budget. This puts the BGMM at a severe disadvantage. Our program will never be as large as FAMU, Southern, Jackson State, and Norfolk. We can do better at funding but we must manage expectations. We do exceptionally well given our funding challenges. Also, most selective HBCUs have smaller bands. Only FAMU would be the exception.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 19, 2021 11:15:23 GMT -5
I think people need to realize that BGMM is in a unique situation compare to other HBCU band programs. The BGMM is not aligned to a School of Music or a College of Arts & Sciences. Other programs are able to fund so many scholarships not because of alumni giving but because of their department's annual budget. This puts the BGMM at a severe disadvantage. Our program will never be as large as FAMU, Southern, Jackson State, and Norfolk. We can do better at funding but we must manage expectations. We do exceptionally well given our funding challenges. Also, most selective HBCUs have smaller bands. Only FAMU would be the exception. I understand your point and you are correct but, these are all the reasons we can't have bigger and better. We have the resources to do it...also it seems to me we use the slogan "Aggies Do!" when it's convenient. We see what the need is, I just don't understand why we cannot meet it. Every time someone brings up the shortcomings and limitations of the band, it's a satisficing type of attitude and that's where the injustice is.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 19, 2021 11:17:24 GMT -5
We have the resources to do it...also it seems to me we use the slogan "Aggies Do!" when it's convenient. Ohsix with the mic slam.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 19, 2021 12:05:46 GMT -5
I think people need to realize that BGMM is in a unique situation compare to other HBCU band programs. The BGMM is not aligned to a School of Music or a College of Arts & Sciences. Other programs are able to fund so many scholarships not because of alumni giving but because of their department's annual budget. This puts the BGMM at a severe disadvantage. Our program will never be as large as FAMU, Southern, Jackson State, and Norfolk. We can do better at funding but we must manage expectations. We do exceptionally well given our funding challenges. Also, most selective HBCUs have smaller bands. Only FAMU would be the exception. I understand your point and you are correct but, these are all the reasons we can't have bigger and better. We have the resources to do it...also it seems to me we use the slogan "Aggies Do!" when it's convenient. We see what the need is, I just don't understand why we cannot meet it. Every time someone brings up the shortcomings and limitations of the band, it's a satisficing type of attitude and that's where the injustice is. It’s not a priority 🤷🏾♂️
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 19, 2021 14:34:20 GMT -5
I understand your point and you are correct but, these are all the reasons we can't have bigger and better. We have the resources to do it...also it seems to me we use the slogan "Aggies Do!" when it's convenient. We see what the need is, I just don't understand why we cannot meet it. Every time someone brings up the shortcomings and limitations of the band, it's a satisficing type of attitude and that's where the injustice is. It’s not a priority 🤷🏾♂️ That's an understatement. That is clear!! It only becomes a priority when another visiting band comes to our stadium and blows the roof off the mutha...i.e. BCU.
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Post by aggiestats on Jul 19, 2021 15:00:26 GMT -5
I do believe the band should be funded to have a better band facilities and at least 10% of the band on scholarships but we still have the largest HBCU band in NC. What would be the ROI for having a larger band? Surely BCU, Talladega, and others are overspending. Also, since we are in the Big South is it worth it?
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Post by Maxell on Jul 19, 2021 16:18:06 GMT -5
I think people need to realize that BGMM is in a unique situation compare to other HBCU band programs. The BGMM is not aligned to a School of Music or a College of Arts & Sciences. Other programs are able to fund so many scholarships not because of alumni giving but because of their department's annual budget. This puts the BGMM at a severe disadvantage. Our program will never be as large as FAMU, Southern, Jackson State, and Norfolk. We can do better at funding but we must manage expectations. We do exceptionally well given our funding challenges. Also, most selective HBCUs have smaller bands. Only FAMU would be the exception. Since when is the band not associated with the Department of Music? COLLEGE OF ARTS, HUMANITIES AND SOCIAL SCIENCES www.ncat.edu/cahss/departments/visual-and-performing-arts/music-program/index.phpMUSIC PROGRAM The North Carolina A&T Music Program has been fully accredited by the National Association of Schools of Music (NASM) since 1991. We offer three degree programs for students wishing to pursue a career in music. Our low student-teacher ratio ensures individual attention, and our faculty have studied with some of the world's finest musicians at leading colleges and universities. We emphasize career development and can place our graduates in competitive graduate schools or assist them in professional careers. The Greater Greensboro Area is rich with performance opportunities and a consortium agreement with several other colleges/universities allows a wide range of flexibility in available courses. On campus you may participate in the University Concert, Symphonic, and Marching Bands; the University Choir; Chamber Singers, Jazz Ensemble, Vocal Jazz Ensemble, Opera Workshop; or Brass, Woodwind, and Percussion Ensembles. For additional information regarding the Music Program, or to schedule an audition, please contact the Music Program office at 336-285-2010. You may also send an email to Dr. John Henry, Jr.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 19, 2021 17:16:53 GMT -5
I think they moved the marching band under the Auxiliary Services umbrella so, it doesn't roll up to the Music Dept. administration. But, in the end, you should always want the best out of the university, hell, it can be checkers...we should want the best checkers players possible and they should be funded with proper resources. It shouldn't matter that you don't care about checkers, if it is a program at the university that you head, support or whatever your role; you should want it to be top tier...PERIOD!
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 19, 2021 19:44:32 GMT -5
I understand your point and you are correct but, these are all the reasons we can't have bigger and better. We have the resources to do it...also it seems to me we use the slogan "Aggies Do!" when it's convenient. We see what the need is, I just don't understand why we cannot meet it. Every time someone brings up the shortcomings and limitations of the band, it's a satisficing type of attitude and that's where the injustice is. It’s not a priority 🤷🏾♂️ Bingo! Give that man a cigar! Until the Administration views the BGMM a priority, it will continue to be underfunded and undersized!
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 19, 2021 19:52:04 GMT -5
I do believe the band should be funded to have a better band facilities and at least 10% of the band on scholarships but we still have the largest HBCU band in NC. What would be the ROI for having a larger band? Surely BCU, Talladega, and others are overspending. Also, since we are in the Big South is it worth it? If we patterned the bgmm for performing in the Big South we could cut back to the "Pep Band" size and do well. This ain't about being the biggest or best HBCU band in the state ...this is about being the biggest and best band for a proud University like A&T. Period!
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Post by Maxell on Jul 19, 2021 20:57:26 GMT -5
I understand your point and you are correct but, these are all the reasons we can't have bigger and better. We have the resources to do it...also it seems to me we use the slogan "Aggies Do!" when it's convenient. We see what the need is, I just don't understand why we cannot meet it. Every time someone brings up the shortcomings and limitations of the band, it's a satisficing type of attitude and that's where the injustice is. It’s not a priority 🤷🏾♂️ Y'all forgive me in advance. In one of the town halls earlier this year, someone brought up the band funding to Chancellor Martin and he downright got upset and said that the school budgets plenty for the band ($800K+) and he wasn't entertaining that question further. Frankly, I was kinda taken aback by his response that day. It implied that there had been multiple discussions prior on the subject.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 19, 2021 21:52:15 GMT -5
It’s not a priority 🤷🏾♂️ Y'all forgive me in advance. In one of the town halls earlier this year, someone brought up the band funding to Chancellor Martin and he downright got upset and said that the school budgets plenty for the band ($800K+) and he wasn't entertaining that question further. Frankly, I was kinda taken aback by his response that day. It implied that there had been multiple discussions prior on the subject. ncatsualumni.org/replay-video-n-c-at-alumni-town-hall/Around 2:15 min mark…he didn’t throw out a number but did say a small percentage of alums donate to the band that they love.
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Post by 919aggie on Jul 19, 2021 22:20:28 GMT -5
It’s not a priority 🤷🏾♂️ Y'all forgive me in advance. In one of the town halls earlier this year, someone brought up the band funding to Chancellor Martin and he downright got upset and said that the school budgets plenty for the band ($800K+) and he wasn't entertaining that question further. Frankly, I was kinda taken aback by his response that day. It implied that there had been multiple discussions prior on the subject. I was confused at his response....I guess its an issue that keeps coming up. We already have one of the worst collegiate band rooms along with the smallest budget..But hey #AggiesDo
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 19, 2021 22:34:05 GMT -5
Y'all forgive me in advance. In one of the town halls earlier this year, someone brought up the band funding to Chancellor Martin and he downright got upset and said that the school budgets plenty for the band ($800K+) and he wasn't entertaining that question further. Frankly, I was kinda taken aback by his response that day. It implied that there had been multiple discussions prior on the subject. I was confused at his response....I guess its an issue that keeps coming up. We already have one of the worst collegiate band rooms along with the smallest budget..But hey #AggiesDo He is confused too, he fields questions from alums about the band but those questions don’t turn into donations for the band. If it’s such an issue why aren’t people donating
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