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Post by aggierattler on Apr 1, 2015 13:16:49 GMT -5
Any sense of the MEAC vote for this? I know FAMU voted against it, but who else did? Who was likely to vote against it? I thought that A&T and NCCU voted against this, too.
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Post by saabman on Apr 1, 2015 13:54:06 GMT -5
Any sense of the MEAC vote for this? I know FAMU voted against it, but who else did? Who was likely to vote against it? I thought that A&T and NCCU voted against this, too. does it really matter who voted for or against this game. What matters to me is we still do not know all the facts about this game. The MEAC and the institutional presidents should lay everything out on the table . why all the secrecy if this game is set in stone?
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Post by aggierattler on Apr 1, 2015 13:59:25 GMT -5
I thought that A&T and NCCU voted against this, too. does it really matter who voted for or against this game. What matters to me is we still do not know all the facts about this game. The MEAC and the institutional presidents should lay everything out on the table . why all the secrecy if this game is set in stone? AGREED 100%!!!!
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Post by DECKS on Apr 1, 2015 14:12:24 GMT -5
This is what was announced at tonight's AAF meeting about the Celebration Bowl: 1. Participating school gets 200,000 in complimentary tickets. 2. The remaining payout is 800,000 in cash. 3. The conference is still deciding whether the 800,000 will be split 80/20 or 70/30 between participating school and the conference. 4. Six year commitment. Just a question to ponder...If A&T goes as the MEAC representative, we would get $200,000 in complimentary tickets, right? The key word is "complimentary!" And the idea is all the money we make selling those tickets goes directly into our pockets! That said, let me just state that not one of those tickets will "not" be sold...even if we have to sell the last bunch of tickets at a discount or bogo (buy one get one free). I know this sounds dumb to suggest that we should try to sell every ticket at full face value but I wouldn't miss an opportunity to sell all the tickets no matter what. Here's a marketing idea, the first 500 fans that pre-order a ticket get a $2.00 reduction on the ticket. Or AAF members that donate over $500 annually get 25% off their second ticket purchased. Or active members of A&T Alumni Chapters get a 10% discount on the tickets. Or all Greensboro High School and Junior High School Students get a 10% discount on tickets. What I'm saying is it may be better to sell all the tickets and make some revenue money than to only sell a few tickets a full price. Also the more butts we can put in the Georgia Dome the greater the buzz will be for future games. And I expect the A&T football team to return for this game for the next 6 years or until ESPN pulls the plug on it! Think about it...10,000 to 15,000 A&T fans in the stands cheering for A&T. I think that's wishful thinking at best, especially when not everyone is on board. I'd honestly be surprised if we sold more than 1000 tickets especially when you'd be able to get them cheaper through Groupon.
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Post by bluehaze on Apr 1, 2015 15:22:03 GMT -5
I think that's wishful thinking at best, especially when not everyone is on board. I'd honestly be surprised if we sold more than 1000 tickets especially when you'd be able to get them cheaper through Groupon. That's why its best to get everyone on the same page. Change Management 101 "What's in it for me?" If our alumni and students know that the school directly benefits from purchasing tickets through the university, they will be more likely to pay the potential extra $5 that they would save by using Groupon. Also, where are these tickets being reserved? Are they on the 50 yard line? Club Level? Alot of unanswered questions...
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Post by marchingband1969 on Apr 1, 2015 15:24:39 GMT -5
If we can't sell any more than 1000 tickets shame on us. This is an opportunity to make some additional money for the athletic department and only 1000 Aggies step up to support the team, that's sad. Even if you dislike the concept of the game Aggies should still help sell tickets.
When I had a corporate job I hated it. But I showed up every day because it was the only way to support my family. I know lots of you hate the Celebration Bowl but currently it's the best way to make some extra money for the program.
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Post by AggiePride on Apr 1, 2015 15:53:41 GMT -5
does it really matter who voted for or against this game. What matters to me is we still do not know all the facts about this game. The MEAC and the institutional presidents should lay everything out on the table . why all the secrecy if this game is set in stone? AGREED 100%!!!!It matters because these institutions may be sitting down and planning an exit strategy or least beginning to think about the idea of switching conferences. This is all conjecture at this point, but if there is some difference of opinions in conference direction it would be helpful to know how the institutions aligned themselves.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 1, 2015 16:44:27 GMT -5
for some reason, a&t doesn’t have the “robust” following that we used to have. i mean, we used to pack ‘em into corbett even when we had a losing team, but not anymore. and we essentially “never” had an aggie stadium attendance figure that was less than 10k (barring inclement weather) no matter who we played, but now we do.
i think the reasons for our drop in support is primarily twofold. first, i think we have “out priced” our market. our tickets prices have “sky rocketed” over the last decade or so, essentially eliminating the nearby community walk up ticket purchases. also, both our football and basketball programs have hit “all time lows” over the last decade or so, and that especially hurts because football and men’s basketball are our main revenue generating sports.
at one point i thought that eventually our crowd would come back, especially since coach broadway now has our football program back to the upper echelon of the meac. but despite 3 winning seasons in a row, all of our crowd still hasn’t returned and i’m now beginning to give up hope that they ever will...
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Post by DECKS on Apr 1, 2015 19:22:03 GMT -5
Its a trend in all of college football. In spite of our smaller crowds we've still led the MEAC in attendance the last two years.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Apr 1, 2015 21:23:58 GMT -5
I think college sports attendance is generally down everywhere. When most of us alums were in college, A&T sports was practically the only game in town. Today there are so many other entertainment options. Plus with students having their own cars and more disposable income they leave campus to enjoy other entertainment.
But the biggest problem effecting attendance at A&T games...we have had really piss-poor teams. Nothing turns off a sports fan like sorry teams. Now we didn't have the greatest teams in the land when I was in school but we were not the worst. Our football and men's basketball teams have been awful for well over a decade. With so many other entertainment options why would a student or someone from the community pay good money to waste time watching a sorry A&T team play? We need 4 or 5 solid winning seasons and some better marketing in those sports before the crowds will come back.
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Post by saabman on Apr 1, 2015 21:25:25 GMT -5
It matters because these institutions may be sitting down and planning an exit strategy or least beginning to think about the idea of switching conferences. This is all conjecture at this point, but if there is some difference of opinions in conference direction it would be helpful to know how the institutions aligned themselves. Pride : From my understanding (I could be wrong) this game had been in the works for sometime. If it was going to be any blowback from the other MEAC institutions , I think something would have surfaced by now. Frankly I am NOT interested in what the others do. But it would be nice to have full contractual disclosure about this game. I'm just wondering why we are being fed bits and pieces.
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Post by aggieblackie on Apr 1, 2015 22:06:52 GMT -5
I will be glad when another topic appears. Some people are writing stuff to just be writing.
What's done is done, get over it. No one writing on this site can change anything.
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Post by saabman on Apr 2, 2015 10:20:52 GMT -5
I will be glad when another topic appears. Some people are writing stuff to just be writing. What's done is done, get over it. No one writing on this site can change anything. No one is trying to change anything. Just trying to get more information. Also if you do not like the topic you don't have to comment. From what I have Been reading all the post have been reasonable.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 2, 2015 11:36:16 GMT -5
Are we required to sell the tix at face value? If not, I'm with marchingband69, dump them joints for five bucks a pop. Screw everybody else, make whatever you can off of them.
My new working theory based on what I've read the AAF gave this year (outstanding job, btw) and what the bowl payout may be is this:
If you don't like the bowl, help to ensure the AAF can be counted on to donate more every year than the bowl pays. A lot more. For example, let's say the AAF is solidly against the bowl and donates 1.4 mill to athletics. A bowl participant can stand to make around 750 grand or so if all goes perfect. If this happens for two years, you think we'll still be in the MEAC?
Sheeeiiiii....
There's your battle plan.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Apr 2, 2015 11:42:32 GMT -5
Are we required to sell the tix at face value? If not, I'm with marchingband69, dump them joints for five bucks a pop. Screw everybody else, make whatever you can off of them. My new working theory based on what I've read the AAF gave this year (outstanding job, btw) and what the bowl payout may be is this: If you don't like the bowl, help to ensure the AAF can be counted on to donate more every year than the bowl pays. A lot more. For example, let's say the AAF is solidly against the bowl and donates 1.4 mill to athletics. A bowl participant can stand to make around 750 grand or so if all goes perfect. If this happens for two years, you think we'll still be in the MEAC? Sheeeiiiii.... There's your battle plan. Hey Doom, like your idea...you don't like the way things are going, buy your way out of it. By the way, if our alums start to give at this level, we will have a much better athletic program and look more attractive to other conferences. This is a pro-active approach to making a change.
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