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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 20:32:12 GMT -5
Quick really needed this game. Also, Klugh needs work but he is a true freshman. He will be alright. The Howard game will be a game where we need to pass well to win the game. The Bison offense will put up points.
Realistically, the next 3 - 4 games will be key for us and the passing game will be needed in order to win these games and make the playoffs.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 20, 2014 20:36:52 GMT -5
What does UNC have to do with this discussion? They need to worry about holding ECU under 50 points when they play them. They won't learn how to do it by playing us a week or two before they play the Pirates........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 20:49:37 GMT -5
Our Aggies did have a very valiant effort and challenge with Coastal Carolina and Elon (who is currently beating FBS transitioning Charlotte). This game was needed to fine tune things and find a rhythm in our offense before our tough Conference stretch.
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Post by aggie62 on Sept 20, 2014 20:54:19 GMT -5
I saw Klugh tonight for first time and, IMO, Quick is definitely our best hope at this time, even allowing for the fact that Klugh was operating with the 2nd team O-Line. And it was good to see Klugh get some important playing time.
I was also glad to see Quick put some air under his long passes and allow our fast receivers run under the ball. Tonight, this paid off for him and the team with that long TD pass.
By the way, ECU is for real, we need to play like them next year when we meet UNC. That would be great.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 20, 2014 21:12:53 GMT -5
You don't find your rhythm against MEAC and FCS schools by playing the likes of Chowan. Chowan was woefully inept. Hey, I know it looked good seeing Quick throw the 55-yard bomb to Griffin.....but he wasn't pressured. He had all day to throw out there today.
Never judge the rhythm of a team when it is going against a team that has NO RHYTHM.
For all of those saying games like this help establish team rhythm.......check our recent history:
2013: Our rhythm was great after we beat VUL 59-12.........the following week: Morgan 24, A&T 23 2012: Our rhythm was really souped up after beating WVSU 77-0 and VUL 40-7 in consecutive weeks.......the following week: Morgan 21, A&T 18 2011: We gained some rhythm after we beat VUL 38-7.....the following week: Appalachian State 58, A&T 6
I'm quoting from the old author and British politician Edmund Burke: THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THEIR HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT....
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 20, 2014 21:37:19 GMT -5
I say this was a very successful day...we did what we were suppose to do, we worked on our passing and running game, we allowed some 2nd and 3rd string players to get some game experience, our defense was solid again and no one got hurt. This one game will neither make or break our team...so let's spend the week getting ready for our first MEAC game. Howard will be tough but we've already had some tough games and we have proven we are legitimate. Let's beat Howard and worry about the rest of the conference later.
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Post by AggieMac on Sept 20, 2014 21:53:46 GMT -5
Nabor,how did I know you were gonna play devil's advocate for the aftermath of this game. Yes, this team was D2 and we slaughtered them like we did against all of the other D2 schools in the last few years, but c'mon bruh you have to be honest in believing this team is different then in years past. I'm not beating my chest like Central fans did when they whooped on ECSU and got smacked against Charlotte the next week at home, who by the way loss to Elon today . However this game gave our back-ups quality playing time which I could see they really needed, because they struggled a bit. Klugh needed this game, Cartwright needed this game along with the rest of the bench on both sides of the ball. I know we are all looking at the playoff picture, but you have to be reasonable in thinking about where we came from to now. Broadway knows exactly what he is doing. Each year he has been honest about the outlook of this team. This is the FIRST year where he has said that "we are here now." This year is a lot different then in years past, we have solid team now with quality depth which was missing ever since Broadway has been here. This game will not have us moving backwards.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 20, 2014 22:09:53 GMT -5
This game will not have us moving backwards. The three past years have told you what games like this do.......these games don't move us forward. We can all agree to disagree on this one. I have a different viewpoint on this one. I want EVERY SINGLE GAME BEFORE CONFERENCE PLAY TO BE TOUGH. Why? Because by the time the MEAC schedule rolls around, it should be like a driving a bicycle downhill..... The MEAC is a weak FCS conference. That doesn't mean we have to be a weak football program. We need to schedule tough teams for the first 4 weeks of our schedule to where the MEAC will be a walk through the park. Does it guarantee that we'll go undefeated in conference.......by no means. But we cannot keep on playing bogus teams and think our rhythm will magically improve and carry over into the MEAC. The 3 past years have proven this out. The starting team isn't better after playing Chowan. The backups aren't better after playing Chowan. Coach Broadway and his staff aren't smarter after playing Chowan. You may not think we're moving backwards, but to me, the question should be are we moving forward?? With this scrimmage tonight......NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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Post by The Professor on Sept 20, 2014 22:58:19 GMT -5
As much as i hate to admit it , man has a point. And a strong one with facts to back it up
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 21, 2014 0:10:20 GMT -5
This game will not have us moving backwards. The three past years have told you what games like this do.......these games don't move us forward. We can all agree to disagree on this one. I have a different viewpoint on this one. I want EVERY SINGLE GAME BEFORE CONFERENCE PLAY TO BE TOUGH. Why? Because by the time the MEAC schedule rolls around, it should be like a driving a bicycle downhill..... The MEAC is a weak FCS conference. That doesn't mean we have to be a weak football program. We need to schedule tough teams for the first 4 weeks of our schedule to where the MEAC will be a walk through the park. Does it guarantee that we'll go undefeated in conference.......by no means. But we cannot keep on playing bogus teams and think our rhythm will magically improve and carry over into the MEAC. The 3 past years have proven this out. The starting team isn't better after playing Chowan. The backups aren't better after playing Chowan. Coach Broadway and his staff aren't smarter after playing Chowan. You may not think we're moving backwards, but to me, the question should be are we moving forward?? With this scrimmage tonight......NOT EVEN CLOSE. Yeah, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. The big difference to me is who is the focal point of the offense. The past three years, it was Kindle. This year, it's Quick... different skill sets and different strengths/weaknesses. The DII games in previous years did nothing to help Kindle's weaknesses (keeping his feet while running and keeping his focus in the midst of pressure). Quick's weaknesses were his rhythm/timing/accuracy in the passing game and decisiveness in decision-making. I think that he got a confidence boost in all of those areas tonight. We didn't need the passing game much in the AA&M game. We've just played two fast FCS defenses in CCU and Elon (who by the way, beat Charlotte tonight 20-13). Between having to practice against our defense and playing those defenses, Quick really hasn't caught a break. He had time tonight, but he didn't TAKE long to make his decisions on a lot of his throws. That to me was progress.... and it was the perfect time for the easier game. Another thing. When we were sitting with Jay "Sky" Walker at the Elon game, his biggest critique on Quick was that he wasn't putting enough air on his longer throws...too flat. The deep ball to Griffin actually showed a good bit of touch to allow Xavier to run under it. It looks like something he has been working on. For a QB like Quick who hasn't had a lot of reps over his 3 years... you can't convince me that play won't help his confidence in cutting loose on some throws with more decisiveness. Quick had 78 pass attempts in his first 2 years combined. Counting tonight, Quick has 96 this year (51-96, 524 yds, 3 TDs, 3 INTs) heading into conference play.... with no one looking over his shoulder. All these reps matter. Howard's defense is somewhere between Chowan and CCU/Elon. Coach Broadway said before the game that we have to throw the ball to keep teams from loading up the box, even if we miss some. I have more hopeful confidence in our offensive design as we get ready to roll to Howard.
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Post by dubius on Sept 21, 2014 1:01:35 GMT -5
I thought this game was valuable in the sense that the 2nd string was exposed to a real game situation and we can really see our depth.
The 2nd string defense looked pretty good.
The 2nd string offense scares me. How many points were scored in the 2nd half (by the offense)? - zero. No drives that could even put us in FG range. We are not deep on O and one or two injuries away from a bad year. The solution is to work a few 2nd stringers into games so that they can be mentored by the first string in order to improve our depth.
It should now be very clear to the coaches what kind of team we have and how they should be positioned to win.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Sept 21, 2014 7:28:17 GMT -5
Naborhood,
You are missing the point. I could see your point if Chowan had been the second D11 team on the schedule. Looking at the first 4 "out of conference" games you have to say on paper it was a challenge; this was no 4 game cupcake walk. To me you have to look at the quality of opponent for the first four games not just a single game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 7:46:22 GMT -5
The three past years have told you what games like this do.......these games don't move us forward. We can all agree to disagree on this one. I have a different viewpoint on this one. I want EVERY SINGLE GAME BEFORE CONFERENCE PLAY TO BE TOUGH. Why? Because by the time the MEAC schedule rolls around, it should be like a driving a bicycle downhill..... The MEAC is a weak FCS conference. That doesn't mean we have to be a weak football program. We need to schedule tough teams for the first 4 weeks of our schedule to where the MEAC will be a walk through the park. Does it guarantee that we'll go undefeated in conference.......by no means. But we cannot keep on playing bogus teams and think our rhythm will magically improve and carry over into the MEAC. The 3 past years have proven this out. The starting team isn't better after playing Chowan. The backups aren't better after playing Chowan. Coach Broadway and his staff aren't smarter after playing Chowan. You may not think we're moving backwards, but to me, the question should be are we moving forward?? With this scrimmage tonight......NOT EVEN CLOSE. Yeah, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. The big difference to me is who is the focal point of the offense. The past three years, it was Kindle. This year, it's Quick... different skill sets and different strengths/weaknesses. The DII games in previous years did nothing to help Kindle's weaknesses (keeping his feet while running and keeping his focus in the midst of pressure). Quick's weaknesses were his rhythm/timing/accuracy in the passing game and decisiveness in decision-making. I think that he got a confidence boost in all of those areas tonight. We didn't need the passing game much in the AA&M game. We've just played two fast FCS defenses in CCU and Elon (who by the way, beat Charlotte tonight 20-13). Between having to practice against our defense and playing those defenses, Quick really hasn't caught a break. He had time tonight, but he didn't TAKE long to make his decisions on a lot of his throws. That to me was progress.... and it was the perfect time for the easier game. Another thing. When we were sitting with Jay "Sky" Walker at the Elon game, his biggest critique on Quick was that he wasn't putting enough air on his longer throws...too flat. The deep ball to Griffin actually showed a good bit of touch to allow Xavier to run under it. It looks like something he has been working on. For a QB like Quick who hasn't had a lot of reps over his 3 years... you can't convince me that play won't help his confidence in cutting loose on some throws with more decisiveness. Quick had 78 pass attempts in his first 2 years combined. Counting tonight, Quick has 96 this year (51-96, 524 yds, 3 TDs, 3 INTs) heading into conference play.... with no one looking over his shoulder. All these reps matter. Howard's defense is somewhere between Chowan and CCU/Elon. Coach Broadway said before the game that we have to throw the ball to keep teams from loading up the box, even if we miss some. I have more hopeful confidence in our offensive design as we get ready to roll to Howard. Speaking of Jay Walker, we do play Howard next Saturday and their defense looks ripe for Quick to further gel with his receivers in the passing game. Their performance last night against Chowan was simply practice for the next 3 games. If MEAC defenses have to focus on stopping quick from running and passing, those running lanes got just that much wider for Cohen. Man lets face it... A&T might have a monster on its hands and we just do not know how good this team is, yet.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 21, 2014 8:01:47 GMT -5
Naborhood, You are missing the point. I could see your point if Chowan had been the second D11 team on the schedule. Looking at the first 4 "out of conference" games you have to say on paper it was a challenge; this was no 4 game cupcake walk. To me you have to look at the quality of opponent for the first four games not just a single game. You seriously cannot group the Chowan game into the AAMU/Coastal/Elon games and say the 4 OOC games were a challenge. If you want to say the 3 games were a challenge, I'll agree with you. As I said before, our program needs as many legitimate challenges it can get before conference play starts. The MEAC has not been a strong FCS conference for numerous years. EVERY GAME COUNTS - I don't believe in throwaway weeks when we're in a conference as weak as ours. You can have throwaway weeks when you're in the Missouri Valley or Colonial Conference, because before your regular season ends, you have seen the best out there in the FCS....those teams reside in your conference. ......Not in the MEAC...... Before I went to sleep last night, I felt better about our football team....why: 1) Coastal blasted FAMU 48-3 (we fought them tooth and nail; Coastal also blasted SCSU) 2) Elon beat Charlotte (we beat Elon; Charlotte destroyed Central) It wasn't because of the Chowan game last night. The more information we can gather about the rest of the FCS and how we fit in it, the better of a program we'll be. FYI......THE ATTENDANCE LAST NIGHT WAS 13,184.....I was pleasantly surprised when I walked in the stadium last night. Aggie football is definitely getting people excited enough to come back to Aggie Stadium. That's a huge credit to Broadway, his staff, and the athletic dept.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 21, 2014 9:23:46 GMT -5
If you look in the sports section today a lot of schools played "Chowans!". Hey we blew them away early in the game, got our sub's some game time experience and had a good turnout. So why are we still debating the decision to play Chowan? Lighten up on the AD and coaching staff's scheduling decisions and enjoy the victory. The games over and no harm and no foul. Let's focus on next week's game against Howard. It's time to show the MEAC that we are back and this is our year!
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