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Post by jaffejoffa on Dec 1, 2007 13:53:48 GMT -5
Since it can be assumed that Fobbs will not be removed , what will your feelings be if he happens to luck up and go 7-4 next year. Do you think Battle will let him stay, or does he need another year to pull the trigger? Do you think a winning record next year justifies him getting another chance, or is he a lame duck and the damage done over the past years too much.
I think that he is a loser, has never known what it feels like to be a consistent winner and is waaaaayy in over his head. No changes to the current staff ? Seriously ? Dude, something you're doing hasn't been working, and you're going to continue with the same exact plan and people in place?
Does our head coach have to submit to random drug testing like the players do, because crack is my only justification to some of the things this guy does...
We all love A&T too much and have to much Aggie Pride to let a dude (who admittedley didnt even know where A&T or Greensboro was before his interview) run this program into the ground (further into the ground).
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Post by aggiejazz on Dec 1, 2007 14:09:14 GMT -5
That is an easy one. Fobbs stays for another two years If he wins 6 or more wins.
That hard question is what to do if Fobbs wins 4 or 5 games.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 1, 2007 15:45:09 GMT -5
I think its still too early to say this staff will remain totally the same next year. Reportedly, Battle is giving him enough money to hire a offensive coordinator ... if Fobbs wants to.
In my opinion, if Fobbs is serious about turning things around he will bring in a real OC/quarterback coach, promote Frenchers in some capacity, and fire at least one current staff member.
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Post by jaffejoffa on Dec 1, 2007 16:03:42 GMT -5
So if he hires and OC, does he take a paycut down to the $110,000 range that Small was in ?? Of course he will refuse a paycut, but hopefully that'll irk Battle enough to fire him next year. Take $50,000 off of Fobbs salary, add about 15-20k to it, and we can get a hell of an OC. -He will not demote himself from OC, because that will be admitting failure, and make it seem that the Chancellor is running the football program and calling the shots. Its almost too late to fire any coaches now, Christmas is a few weeks away, and recruiting and planning has already kicked off. Born, any plans to do a post season interview, or is he ducking any and all reporters and questions right about now? I would be. Fobbs, I'm offering my consulation free of charge. If I was Fiasco, I would take a paycut now, and hopefully go .500 next year to save your a$$. That "might" buy you a couple of more years with Battle( 3yrs x $110,000 = $330,000) (330-160= +140) or refuse a paycut and get the axe. (1yr x $160,000 = $160,000). Shame on you Sir !! Shame on You !
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 1, 2007 18:45:32 GMT -5
He has reportedly been out on the recruiting trail since the end of this season.
I have not tried to schedule any interviews with him. However he has always been accommodating to my interview requests in the past. In fact, I have never known him to shun any of his media responsibilities since he has been at A&T.
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Post by aggiechamp on Dec 1, 2007 23:14:36 GMT -5
Folks, we should stop with this Fobbs should/would/might/voluntarily take a pay cut. Why would he? He has a contract. We gave him the contract to get him to be our head coach/offensive coordinator. Presumably, we gave him as much money as we gave him because he was making as much or more as the running backs coach at A&M. Why would/should he voluntarily take a pay cut to bring in an offensive coordinator. Get real. How many of you would voluntarily take a pay cut? Let's focus on real solutions to the football program. If we believe he needs an offensive cooordinator/needs to be fired, we---the school and the fans--- need to come up with the money to pay for it. Don't blame Fobbs for forcing us to live with the deal that we gave him.
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Post by DECKS on Dec 2, 2007 0:09:13 GMT -5
Fobbs made $107,000 as the running backs coach at A&M.
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Post by Trueaggie on Dec 2, 2007 5:42:17 GMT -5
I noticed a couple of interesting statements above; such as Battle has agreed to pay for an OC. If battle hires an OC that will help the team surely win more games; the fact that he has to do that regardless of how Fobbs' next two years turn out means his contract will not be renewed. Keeping Fobbs is not about believing he is the right man vs. showing potential big donors that A&T is financially responsible with money given to the school. Battle made a good decision when he reassigned DT to another job; we can not afford to give away the kind of money we did the the previous ADs' and coaches.
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Post by Tee-Sharp on Dec 2, 2007 9:00:04 GMT -5
If Fobbs (and recruits) truly believes that he is going to be released at the end of his contract then our recruiting for the next two years is going to be atrocious and will probably set the program back another 4 years. Hopefully, Fobbs still believes that he can set this program straight and is recruiting with zest under that belief. Whether we like him or not, I hope he realizes that he can still save his job. I wouldn’t want this program to operate under a lame duck coach. Either fire him now or support him/support program.
As for the $165k, if A&T has to go out and hire an offensive coordinator because Fobbs is unable to properly perform this function, then he could soothe some feelings by willingly restructuring his contract. Just a suggestion.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 2, 2007 10:06:59 GMT -5
Fobbs has already voluntarily given up the OC title. He does not call the offensive plays and, to my knowledge, has had other staff members put together the offensive gameplan since he first got here.
I don't know if that is a breech of contract or not, but I don't think it is what the fans had in mind when he was first hired.
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Post by krazykev on Dec 2, 2007 10:27:27 GMT -5
In Fobbs first year his son Jamal Fobbs and OL coach Ken Ray were calling the plays. This past season Ken Ray was calling the plays with the help of Dwike in some way. Fobbs never intended on calling the plays. Now I think Fobbs may have some final say in the play that is run or the 12 scripted plays at the beginning of the game.
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Post by dj98 on Dec 2, 2007 11:19:45 GMT -5
(12 scripted plays at the beginning of the game.)
Ain't no 12 plays scripted at the begining of the game........
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Post by jaffejoffa on Dec 2, 2007 13:52:16 GMT -5
The first two possessions of the game are scripted .....
-Bornthrilla, so has Fobbs officially announced that he has given up OC duties ? I thought that he still carried the OC title, but delegated the responsibilites to Ray. If so, that has to be grounds for breach of contract or a mandatory restructuring of that contract. Maybe BDF can sue. Dooms ? lol... Hey, at least we'd get some national press. Has a coach ever been sued for breach of contract for not performing his contractual duties ?
Fobbs, I'm issuing a formal plea for you to resign effective immediatley...It's the only honorable thing for a man to do in this situation.
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Post by aggiechamp on Dec 2, 2007 14:16:49 GMT -5
The first two possessions of the game are scripted ..... -Bornthrilla, so has Fobbs officially announced that he has given up OC duties ? I thought that he still carried the OC title, but delegated the responsibilites to Ray. If so, that has to be grounds for breach of contract or a mandatory restructuring of that contract. Maybe BDF can sue. Dooms ? lol... Hey, at least we'd get some national press. Has a coach ever been sued for breach of contract for not performing his contractual duties ? LET'S BE REAL. Fobbs is not likely to resign. Why is it the honorable for the man to quit before he accomplishes what he was hired to do. Let's be honest, it is only honorable because you want him to resign. Personally, I think his resignation would be catastrophic for our program. At some point we have to demonstrate that we will honor our commitments to our coaches and to our kids. We made a commitment to Fobbs--- 4 or 5 years. Honor the commitment or pay him off. Let's stop with this resign/voluntarily take a pay cut. If we wish to have a world class program let's play by the world's rules and stop implying this Fobb's is a dishonorable man because he will not resign. We expose our shortcomings when we continue to make these kind of suggestions. Fobbs, I'm issuing a formal plea for you to resign effective immediatley...It's the only honorable thing for a man to do in this situation.
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Post by aggiechamp on Dec 2, 2007 14:21:58 GMT -5
By the way, it's not likely a breach of contract for Fobb's to have assigned the OC duties to someone else since we have condoned this behavior for two years.
LET'S BE REAL. Fobbs is not likely to resign. Why is it the honorable for the man to quit before he accomplishes what he was hired to do. Let's be honest, it is only honorable because you want him to resign. Personally, I think his resignation would be catastrophic for our program. At some point we have to demonstrate that we will honor our commitments to our coaches and to our kids. We made a commitment to Fobbs--- 4 or 5 years. Honor the commitment or pay him off. Let's stop with this resign/voluntarily take a pay cut. If we wish to have a world class program let's play by the world's rules and stop implying this Fobb's is a dishonorable man because he will not resign. We expose our shortcomings when we continue to make these kind of suggestions.
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