saabman
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Post by saabman on Aug 7, 2023 14:54:33 GMT -5
Yall always love to bring up exceptions when someone talking in general, LOL Now that I’m reading back, I realize that I forgot to explain why I posted that, and it seems like you’re reading it like a argument to your statement because of my lack of explaining, which it wasn’t, so that’s my fault. I saw y’all talking about who’s ran that event specifically, and it made me curious to see who’s ran what in terms of NFL guys. So once I saw that the point was that most fb players that run the 400 aren’t RBs, the research substantiated that (hence the very few ppl that even ran it in football being all WRs/DBs). Wasn’t supposed to be a “challenge” to anybody’s point, or “posting exceptions”, it was supposed to show very few NFL guys have ran, that’s almost the whole list of guys that actually have a name in the NFL that ran it, which is a short list. I just saw the back & forth & decided to look it up, especially bc I’ve never ran track in my own life For someone that did both . I can tell you that most short sprinters also at some point in there career had decent times in the 400 also . Your correct about most being DB'S or Receivers, that is the point I was pointing out about Mr Hicks why he shouldn't be playing RB and would be a better fit as a DB (Tall safeties) with vertical and horizontal speed and can pop are a big commodity at this level and the next level as are Tall Receivers with good hands. His speed would be wasted at the running back position in my opinion.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 8, 2023 12:49:55 GMT -5
Yall always love to bring up exceptions when someone talking in general, LOL Now that I’m reading back, I realize that I forgot to explain why I posted that, and it seems like you’re reading it like a argument to your statement because of my lack of explaining, which it wasn’t, so that’s my fault. I saw y’all talking about who’s ran that event specifically, and it made me curious to see who’s ran what in terms of NFL guys. So once I saw that the point was that most fb players that run the 400 aren’t RBs, the research substantiated that (hence the very few ppl that even ran it in football being all WRs/DBs). Wasn’t supposed to be a “challenge” to anybody’s point, or “posting exceptions”, it was supposed to show very few NFL guys have ran, that’s almost the whole list of guys that actually have a name in the NFL that ran it, which is a short list. I just saw the back & forth & decided to look it up, especially bc I’ve never ran track in my own life No problem, my point was that if you are a true 400 runner and want to compete at a national level football actually gets in the way. You can run it, shoot anyone can "run" it. But to compete in the 400 nationally you are not likely to be a member of the football team. Others are making it a football centric topic. I'm making it a track centric topic in saying that his 400 time would suffer from playing football and not the other way around. I dont feel like looking, but how many of those 4 were at the collegiate nationals as 400 runners?
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Post by saabman on Aug 8, 2023 16:31:35 GMT -5
Now that I’m reading back, I realize that I forgot to explain why I posted that, and it seems like you’re reading it like a argument to your statement because of my lack of explaining, which it wasn’t, so that’s my fault. I saw y’all talking about who’s ran that event specifically, and it made me curious to see who’s ran what in terms of NFL guys. So once I saw that the point was that most fb players that run the 400 aren’t RBs, the research substantiated that (hence the very few ppl that even ran it in football being all WRs/DBs). Wasn’t supposed to be a “challenge” to anybody’s point, or “posting exceptions”, it was supposed to show very few NFL guys have ran, that’s almost the whole list of guys that actually have a name in the NFL that ran it, which is a short list. I just saw the back & forth & decided to look it up, especially bc I’ve never ran track in my own life No problem, my point was that if you are a true 400 runner and want to compete at a national level football actually gets in the way. You can run it, shoot anyone can "run" it. But to compete in the 400 nationally you are not likely to be a member of the football team. Others are making it a football centric topic. I'm making it a track centric topic in saying that his 400 time would suffer from playing football and not the other way around. I dont feel like looking, but how many of those 4 were at the collegiate nationals as 400 runners? As with any two sports athletes one sport will suffer a little drop off ,especially if one of the sports is a physical demanding contact sport like Football. Just let the youngman develop before putting him on the national stage in track or as a possible NCAA All American or NFL draft pick. Don't make this more then it really is because things always play themselves out .
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 8, 2023 16:49:36 GMT -5
Now that I’m reading back, I realize that I forgot to explain why I posted that, and it seems like you’re reading it like a argument to your statement because of my lack of explaining, which it wasn’t, so that’s my fault. I saw y’all talking about who’s ran that event specifically, and it made me curious to see who’s ran what in terms of NFL guys. So once I saw that the point was that most fb players that run the 400 aren’t RBs, the research substantiated that (hence the very few ppl that even ran it in football being all WRs/DBs). Wasn’t supposed to be a “challenge” to anybody’s point, or “posting exceptions”, it was supposed to show very few NFL guys have ran, that’s almost the whole list of guys that actually have a name in the NFL that ran it, which is a short list. I just saw the back & forth & decided to look it up, especially bc I’ve never ran track in my own life No problem, my point was that if you are a true 400 runner and want to compete at a national level football actually gets in the way. You can run it, shoot anyone can "run" it. But to compete in the 400 nationally you are not likely to be a member of the football team. Others are making it a football centric topic. I'm making it a track centric topic in saying that his 400 time would suffer from playing football and not the other way around. I dont feel like looking, but how many of those 4 were at the collegiate nationals as 400 runners? i think long term nagging football "injuries" are the only things that may be detrimental to his ability to perform to his potential in the 400 if he plays both sports. again, i do not feel that its necessary to train "year round" to perform your best in the 400 or any other track event for that matter. question? how much training in terms of timeframe do you think is necessary to perform your best in the 400? 12 months a year? 9 months a year? 6 months a year? see, the way i see it, "barring" lagging football related injuries, he'll begin training for outdoor track right after football season is over in november, ain't gone be no postseason play this season for sure. and even if we were lucky enuf to get a playoff invite, we'll likely get bounced in the 1st round. so he could take a short break after football season is over and start "full time" track training in december. that'll give him a full 4 or 5 "months" to get into tip top track shape. why would he need more time than that if he doesn't have any lingering injuries from football? just asking cuz i don't think he needs more than 5 months to get ready for outdoor track, that's probably the timeframe he's used to since he played football in high school...
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Aug 8, 2023 17:30:01 GMT -5
Now that I’m reading back, I realize that I forgot to explain why I posted that, and it seems like you’re reading it like a argument to your statement because of my lack of explaining, which it wasn’t, so that’s my fault. I saw y’all talking about who’s ran that event specifically, and it made me curious to see who’s ran what in terms of NFL guys. So once I saw that the point was that most fb players that run the 400 aren’t RBs, the research substantiated that (hence the very few ppl that even ran it in football being all WRs/DBs). Wasn’t supposed to be a “challenge” to anybody’s point, or “posting exceptions”, it was supposed to show very few NFL guys have ran, that’s almost the whole list of guys that actually have a name in the NFL that ran it, which is a short list. I just saw the back & forth & decided to look it up, especially bc I’ve never ran track in my own life No problem, my point was that if you are a true 400 runner and want to compete at a national level football actually gets in the way. You can run it, shoot anyone can "run" it. But to compete in the 400 nationally you are not likely to be a member of the football team. Others are making it a football centric topic. I'm making it a track centric topic in saying that his 400 time would suffer from playing football and not the other way around. I dont feel like looking, but how many of those 4 were at the collegiate nationals as 400 runners? I probably wouldn’t have even put that at all had I known it was gonna end like this 😂😂, the list posted should’ve substantiated your point, not challenged it. It’s a very small list of pro guys that ran the event is what the list is showing, , compared to all of the many that have run track (primarily the 100) in general.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 9, 2023 15:51:47 GMT -5
No problem, my point was that if you are a true 400 runner and want to compete at a national level football actually gets in the way. You can run it, shoot anyone can "run" it. But to compete in the 400 nationally you are not likely to be a member of the football team. Others are making it a football centric topic. I'm making it a track centric topic in saying that his 400 time would suffer from playing football and not the other way around. I dont feel like looking, but how many of those 4 were at the collegiate nationals as 400 runners? i think long term nagging football "injuries" are the only things that may be detrimental to his ability to perform to his potential in the 400 if he plays both sports. again, i do not feel that its necessary to train "year round" to perform your best in the 400 or any other track event for that matter. question? how much training in terms of timeframe do you think is necessary to perform your best in the 400? 12 months a year? 9 months a year? 6 months a year? see, the way i see it, "barring" lagging football related injuries, he'll begin training for outdoor track right after football season is over in november, ain't gone be no postseason play this season for sure. and even if we were lucky enuf to get a playoff invite, we'll likely get bounced in the 1st round. so he could take a short break after football season is over and start "full time" track training in december. that'll give him a full 4 or 5 "months" to get into tip top track shape. why would he need more time than that if he doesn't have any lingering injuries from football? just asking cuz i don't think he needs more than 5 months to get ready for outdoor track, that's probably the timeframe he's used to since he played football in high school... That was my point. I just dont feel the need to go into all these details. Football is tough. If you play and play regularly and train regularly it WILL effect your track season. It can burn you out. Its not ideal. Thats all I'm saying.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Aug 9, 2023 23:45:28 GMT -5
Anything is possible. Just be glad he chose T over the other schools.
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saabman
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Post by saabman on Aug 10, 2023 0:03:14 GMT -5
i think long term nagging football "injuries" are the only things that may be detrimental to his ability to perform to his potential in the 400 if he plays both sports. again, i do not feel that its necessary to train "year round" to perform your best in the 400 or any other track event for that matter. question? how much training in terms of timeframe do you think is necessary to perform your best in the 400? 12 months a year? 9 months a year? 6 months a year? see, the way i see it, "barring" lagging football related injuries, he'll begin training for outdoor track right after football season is over in november, ain't gone be no postseason play this season for sure. and even if we were lucky enuf to get a playoff invite, we'll likely get bounced in the 1st round. so he could take a short break after football season is over and start "full time" track training in december. that'll give him a full 4 or 5 "months" to get into tip top track shape. why would he need more time than that if he doesn't have any lingering injuries from football? just asking cuz i don't think he needs more than 5 months to get ready for outdoor track, that's probably the timeframe he's used to since he played football in high school... That was my point. I just dont feel the need to go into all these details. Football is tough. If you play and play regularly and train regularly it WILL effect your track season. It can burn you out. Its not ideal. Thats all I'm saying. Not if he manages his time properly. As OSA and I stated Outside of any lingering injury he should have sufficient time to prepare for the 400 in the outdoor season. As I said before you're making this more than it is.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 10, 2023 12:18:35 GMT -5
That was my point. I just dont feel the need to go into all these details. Football is tough. If you play and play regularly and train regularly it WILL effect your track season. It can burn you out. Its not ideal. Thats all I'm saying. Not if he manages his time properly. As OSA and I stated Outside of any lingering injury he should have sufficient time to prepare for the 400 in the outdoor season. As I said before you're making this more than it is. I am? OK.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 26, 2023 9:06:05 GMT -5
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 26, 2023 14:21:49 GMT -5
hope he stays put! and hooker too...
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